以下是#1H2auwUL 原文的下半部分... 同样是节录 http://tinyurl.com/bcd58bf (同一个连结) (The morning after I meet White,...此段未翻译) However, there's a much larger issue at play here, and it's unrelated to the game of basketball. It has to do with White's wider view on how mental illness — both his own, and those of others — is destroying the fabric of modern living. He's obsessed with the idea that no one wants to accept the "reality" of a profound social crisis he sees everywhere, infiltrating every aspect of culture and killing us softly. 现在有个(比上一段提到的他不出赛的问题)更大的问题---跟篮球无关的问题--- 就是White如何看待精神病---不管是他自己的还是其他人的--- 似乎都在挑战着现代的生活方式. 他认定大家都不愿面对现实 接受他看到的潜在社会危机(在#1H2auwUL最後有提过) 这个危机可是无所不在,不知不觉中一步一步带领我们走向死亡... White's language is intense and discursive. Though usually well delivered, his statements toggle between progressive common sense and difficult-to-decipher, contradictory aphorisms. For example: The crux of White's demand to the Rockets is that he needs his own personal doctor to decide whether he's in the right mental frame of mind to play a game or attend practice. That seems reasonable — until you consider what would happen if all 400-plus players in the NBA made the same request (for both mental and physical ailments). It would reinvent the power dynamic, effectively allowing players to dictate when they were healthy enough to participate. White的发言很热血但也经常转移话题---虽然都有一番见解,但经常上一句内容是 大家都懂的常识,下一句就成了我很难理解又矛盾的深奥格言. 例如: White向火箭队要求他要有自己的专属医生来决定他是否目前心神状况 适合出赛或参加练习. 这听起来似乎也不无道理---但你想想假如 400多位NBA球员都提出这个请求(心理或生理上)--那岂不是出赛与否都由每个球员 自己所主宰? But White doesn't see it like that. 但White不这麽认为 Except that he does. "My request was to have an addendum to my contract," he begins. "Now, would that set a precedent? That's not really my thing. I asked for something to be put into my contract. Not something for all players to use." White:我的请求是在我的合约里加上附加条款. 这样就会首开先例(而导致 大家都提出这请求?) 这才不是我想看到的,我提出的请求是加在我的合约上, 不是其他所有人的. But then he continues talking. And this is where it becomes difficult to see how White and the Rockets will ever find real common ground, even if he eventually ends up on their roster. 不过他又开始继续谈这个话题---这话题大概就是他和火箭队难以达成共识的原因吧 "But if you want to talk about it through that lens, every player should have their own doctor. The reality is that American businesses are built on the idea of cutting overhead. And how do we cut overhead?" White points to the door that leads from the patio to the main restaurant. "Why do restaurants put exit signs over every exit? I bet if Cheesecake Factory didn't have to do that, they wouldn't. Because it would cost less to do nothing. They have to be forced to do that. So if a team or a business can save money by making things less safe, they're going to do that. They don't care. It's a conflict of interest to have the team doctor paid by the team. What we need is a doctor who can look at a situation and say, 'Listen, I know the team wants you to do this, and I know their doctor is saying you should do this. But as a non-biased doctor with no interest in how you perform athletically, I recommend differently.' Right now, you have players pushing themselves back in three weeks who have three-month injuries." White表示: "假如你一定要从那个角度出发的话--的确每个球员都应该有他们的专属医生 但事实呢? 美国的商业就是奠基於减少开销上. 所以要怎样省钱?" White指着通往主餐厅的门: "为啥餐厅在每个出口上都要标示'这是出口'?我敢打赌要是Cheesecake Factory(餐厅名) 可以不用这麽作(标示出口)的话,他们就不会这麽作. 因为这样比较省钱. 除非被法律所迫不然他们不可能会作. 所以假如一个团队或公司可以因为忽略 某些安全环节而省钱的话,他们就会这麽作.他们才不管安全什麽的. 所以我认为有从队上领薪水的队医是很矛盾的. 我们需要的是一种中立的医生,他会力排众议告诉你: '听着,我知道这个队想要你这样作,他们的队医也说你应该这样作, 但身为一个对你在场上表现如何没有利害关系的中立医生,我觉得你应该这样这样...' 而现在,不少球员明明受了应该休养三个月的伤,三周就被推上场..." I ask him if he understands why NBA owners might be reluctant to give players that level of input into when they're ready to play basketball, particularly for a disease that's invisible (and arguably subjective). 我问他是否了解为什麽NBA老板们不怎麽愿意提供这种等级的服务给一个 "看起来"应该已经可以上场打球的球员---尤其你的病是看不到的(而且是主观的) "I'm always going to run into problems with people who think business is more important than human welfare," he replies. "对於把商业利益放在人权前面的人,我们之间会产生问题不意外" White表示 Part of what makes White so baffling (and, to his detractors, so infuriating) is the degree to which he seems totally normal. He concedes this is part of the problem, perception-wise; he says he's thought about his condition so much that he can now control it, most of the time. But that control makes it difficult for him to illustrate how he's different from any normal person who tends to get more nervous than necessary. For instance, it's not that White cannot bear to step on an airplane; he's taken dozens and dozens of flights throughout his short career, including one to Italy to play an exhibition for Iowa State. He just deeply hates the experience of flying (and says that he's racked with anxiety for several hours before takeoff, which is worse than the flight itself). White also hates driving and constantly scans the road for "threats," but that doesn't mean he can't drive (in the Real Sports segment, we see him calmly operating a vehicle with only one hand on the wheel). When I speak with him at the Cheesecake Factory, he seems more composed than many other celebrities and athletes I've interviewed in the past. But this, he insists, proves nothing except the complexity of his dilemma. "Everything is tied to my mental illness," he tells me. "It's like when you have arthritis: Even when you're not hurting, you're worried about when you will hurt next. It's always related." White让人感觉如此莫名其妙的原因(对於讨厌他的人来说:让他们气炸的原因) 就是他某种程度上看起来明明就很正常,他也同意这是问题的一部分. 他说他现在大部分的时候可以控制他的症状---但这反而让其他人更难理解 他是怎样比别人更神经质. 例如说,White并不是怕到完全无法踏上飞机--他其实在他短暂的篮球生涯中 搭过不少次的飞机,其中也包含从美国飞义大利的. 他只是非常讨厌坐飞机的感觉---并且他登机前数小时都会非常焦虑,这比搭机本身还糟糕 White也很讨厌开车--当他开车时会不停巡视路面试图发现有什麽会威胁到他的东西. 但这也不表示他不能开车---(在Real Sports segment中,我们可以看到他镇定的单手开车) 当我和他在Cheesecake factory聊天时,他看起来比我以前访谈过的名人和运动员都还镇定. 但是他坚持,这一切都代表他的困境到底有多麽复杂. White说:"所有东西都和我的精神病纠缠不清,就像你得了关节炎一样: 就算当你不痛的时候,你也会担心你下一次什麽时候又会发作..." White's problems began at age 16, in a cabin outside of Minneapolis, on the first (and only) day he ever smoked marijuana. The episode may superficially seem like a standard case of weed-induced paranoia, but that's not how it felt to White. "I think it was in Forest Lake, Minnesota," he recalls. "I had an out-of-body experience. It felt like I was watching myself have the experience. It was so traumatic for me, and I had such a bad reaction, I started having panic attacks for the next two or three months, in rapid succession. Sometimes two or three a day." White的毛病起於16岁,当时他第一次(也是唯一一次)吸食大麻. 虽说吸大麻产生幻觉没什麽奇怪的,但是White不这麽认为: "我觉得我灵魂出窍了,我好像"站在我自己旁边" 看到我自己正在绝顶升天...这是个令我很受伤的经验 ...那之後两三个月我开始有频繁的恐慌症发作...有时一天两三次 The son of a cosmetologist and a social worker, White was prescribed Prozac at the age of 18 (he's still on it today). Having won Minnesota state basketball titles with two different teams in high school, he initially attended the University of Minnesota but never played a game for the Gophers, transferring in the wake of two off-the-court incidents. He announced his "retirement" from the sport on YouTube but eventually transferred to Iowa State, where he flourished under coach Fred Hoiberg (a man White clearly admires). White 18岁开始处方服用Prozac(抗忧郁药物)直到现在. 他曾在两个不同的高中拿过Minnesota州的篮球冠军,之後 他先上了Minnesota大学但从未为他们的球队出赛过. 在两次球场外的事件後转队. 他也曾在Youtube上表示他要"退休"了,但总之 他後来又转到Iowa州,在教练Fred Hoiberg (White显然很尊敬他)的带领下崭露头角 Somewhat surprisingly, White does not deny that he could play for Houston right now, if that were his decision. He could handle the travel, at least in the short-term. "I probably could do it," he says. "But what would the effect be? What would I have left at the end of the season? How good would I be for the team during the season?" 令人意外的,White不否认他现在就可以为火箭效力---假如是他自愿的话 他至少短期内可以忍受四处奔波. White:"我大概办的到吧,但会有什麽结果呢?我在球季末会变得怎麽样呢?? 我为球队能发挥什麽功用呢???" His argument, in essence, is that just being able to withstand something does not mean it's reasonable and healthy. He doesn't think that a person's mere ability to manage stress detracts from its corrosive nature. That's undeniably true. But here again, a conflict emerges from the specific lifestyle White is involved with: The demands of his chosen profession are utterly abnormal. Which leads to another unusual exchange … 他的论述大意是说, 可以忍受某件事情不代表那件事情是合理/健康的. 他也不认为一个人可以忍受压力的能力会让一件事的本质不那麽腐败. 他说的是没错,但他的要求实在是太不正常........ (以下是第二次的访谈, 访问者= K, White = W) What if stress is just part of it? K: 如果压力也只不过是(职业生涯)其中的一部分呢? What does that mean, "It's just part of it"? That's like saying people getting killed is just part of war. W: 什麽叫"也只不过是其中的一部分"? 这样好比说战争中杀人也只不过是战争的一部分 But people getting killed is part of war. That's the downside of war. K: 呃,没错啊,会死人本来就是战争的一部分嘛.只是不好的那一部分 It doesn't have to be, though. We choose that. When you say, "That's just part of it," it implies that this is natural. Volcanoes don't kill human beings. Volcanoes kill human beings because human beings build houses right next to them. W: 但是那并不必然,那是人作出的选择而然. 当你说 "那只是其中的一部分" 代表那是自然发生的. 例如火山爆发并不是天生就会杀死人类的. 火山爆发会死人的原因是因为人类把房子盖在火山上. Yes. But when I ask, "What if stress is just part of it?" I'm really asking, "What if it's just part of the choice that society has made?" It may be problematic, but what if we've all agreed that this problematic thing is part of the experience of being involved in a rarefied profession? K: 是的,但当我问你"如果如果压力也只不过是其中的一部分呢?" 我意思是"如果这就是整体社会所作的选择呢?", 可能这决策是有问题的 ,但如果大家都同意这个有问题的环节是进入这职业殿堂的必经之路... That's fine. But don't act like this wasn't a choice. W:那还可以,但别装成好像这不是决定出来的. So what would you have done if, upon drafting you, the Rockets had said this: "Look — this is going to be hard for you. It might, in fact, be detrimental. But that is just part of competing at this sport at this level." K: 那假如说,火箭队在选秀後就先给你打预防针: "听好---这可能对你有点难,可能有害,但这只是在这个最高殿堂竞争的一部分" 你会怎麽作? You can't do that, though. You can't discriminate against somebody, because that's ADA6 law. People say I'm getting special treatment, but it's the NBA who wants special treatment. They want to say they're this rarefied profession where laws don't apply. But ADA law is federal. I've always said the NBA should have a mental health policy. I didn't know they didn't have one, until I got drafted. But the NCAA doesn't have one, either … I had to sit my first year at Iowa State, because there was no mental health protocol. I transferred on the basis of mental health issues. Both my doctor and my psychiatrist wrote letters to the NCAA that said my staying at Minnesota would not be healthy, because I'd just been through a three-month case where I was targeted by police for a crime I was not guilty of, and that I needed a fresh start. Because I have a mental illness. But the NCAA denied my waiver. 他们不能这样作. 因为这是歧视,违反 ADA(Americans With Disabilities Act., 美国残疾人法案)法的. 人们说我想要特殊待遇,但想要特殊待遇的是NBA---他们想说在这个专业运动的殿堂上 这法不适用, 但是ADA法是联邦法. 我总说NBA应该有关於处理精神疾病方面的政策. 而直到我被选上後我才知道他们没有. NCAA也没有... 我在Iowa州的第一年只能坐板凳,因为没有处理精神方面问题的机制. 我转队的原因也是这样. 我的医生和心理医生都写信给NCAA说我继续待在Minnesota对我是有害的, 因为我才为了一个犯人根本不是我的案子刚被警察盯了三个月,我需要一个地方让我 重新出发....因为我有精神病. 但NCAA拒绝了我的waiver. What was the NCAA's argument? K: NCAA怎麽说? They didn't really have one. They said it was my choice to transfer. W: 没说啥,只说要不要转队是你家的事 --

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