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在翻译这篇文章的同时,我有寄了封email给文章的作者Josh Kalk,THT网站上的 "Anatomy of a player: ....."这一系列的文章就是他所写的。我问他是否能写一篇 "Anatomy of a player: Hong-Chih Kuo",结果Josh答应我了,他说最近忙着写其他THT 的文章,不过没问题,会尽量在10月的时候就完成分析小小郭的文章。 After carving up the Southeastern Conference, David Price was the No. 1 overall selection by the Rays in 2007. Price didn't sign until the deadline, so he didn't pitch in the minors until this year. Price started out at high Single-A ball in the Florida State League but he quickly moved up to Double-A before a few innings at the end of the year at Triple-A. Price pitched so well in the minors that he earned a September call-up. After 14 innings and an ERA under 2.00, Price found himself on the playoff roster. 在屠杀了东南联盟後,David Price在2007年选秀会上被光芒队在第一顺位选中。Price一 直到了最後期限才与光芒队签约,所以去年并没有在小联盟出赛。Price从佛罗里达联盟 的高阶1A球队出发,但是很快的就升上2A,在球季末又升上3A并投了几局。由於在小联盟 的投球成绩优异,使得Price在九月份被升上大联盟。在大联盟投了14局,且留下2.00自 责分率的成绩後,Price成为了季後赛球员名单中的一员。 After not pitching in the opening series against the White Sox, Price has pitched in both games of the ALCS against the Red Sox and he picked up the win in Game 2. Rays manager Joe Maddon obviously has a lot of confidence in Price and is willing to use him in important situations. Because he pitched sparingly in the regular season, few people are familiar with his stuff, especially as a reliever. So here is a quick look at what Price throws. 在面对白袜队的首轮比赛中,Price并没有出赛,他在面对红袜队的美联冠军赛中出赛了 两场,并拿下了第二战的胜投。Joe Maddon很显然的对Price充满信心,并且愿意在关键 时刻派他上场。由於在正规季赛出赛不多,所以大部分的人对於担任後援投手的Price的 球威不太熟悉。我们迅速的浏览一下Price会投哪些球路。 Since he is such a highly regarded prospect, there is a ton of information about David Price on the web. Here are a couple of nice scouting reports, an excellent interview this year by our own Brandon Isleib and a mechanics breakdown by Carlos Gomez. 由於他是受到高度瞩目的新秀,在网路上有一大堆关於David Price的资讯。这里有两个 很棒的球探报告,由Branson Islieb在今年做的访问与Carlos Gomez的技术分析。 David Price's stuff David Price的球威 Because Price has worked out of the bullpen for all but one of his appearances this year, he has been basically a two-pitch pitcher: fastball and hard slider. He apparently also has a slurvy slider which he hasn't thrown in the big leagues and an improving change-up which he has used very sparingly. Here is a look at his movement chart. Price今年都是以牛棚投手的身分出赛,基本上来说他是一位只投两种球路的投手: 快速 球与快速滑球。很显然的他还会投滑曲球,但是在大联盟尚未使用过这个球种,另外 Price也很少使用正在进步中的变速球。这里是他的球路位移量图。 Price's fastball is his bread and butter right now. Previous scouting reports put this pitch in the low 90s, but working out of the bullpen Price has dialed this pitch up to 95.5 mph on average. There are a scant few lefties in the league who can touch 95 mph, much less work there, so this is a huge weapon for Price. And as if 95 mph wasn't enough, he is showing excellent movement, generating 5.5 inches of horizontal break away from a right-handed batter compared to a ball thrown without spin. If he threw nothing but fastballs out of the bullpen. he likely could have a long, productive career— his fastball is that good. Price的快速球是他目前在大联盟求生存的武器。之前的球探报告指出他的快速球球速大 约为90mph出头,但是担任牛棚投手时,Price的快速球平均速度提升至95.5mph。在联盟 中没有几位左投手能投出95mph的球速,所以快速球是Price最重要的武器。除了95mph的 球速外,这个球路还拥有优异的尾劲,和不旋转的球相比,具有5.5寸偏离右打者的水平 位移。如果他在离开牛棚後只投快速球,他很有可能会有个长期且优秀的生涯 - 他的快 速球就是这麽的棒。 The difference between a solid pitcher and truly dominant pitcher, though, is in his off-speed offerings. Right now, Price's off-speed pitches aren't exactly at that level. The slider he is using is a hard one that offers no horizontal movement to speak of and little vertical difference from his fastball. Price has been using his slider nearly equally to left- and right-handed batters and mostly later in the count. For this pitch to become an effective strikeout pitch, he is going to have to get more swings and misses with it, but it doesn't offer the kind of movement it takes to consistently fool big league hitters. 稳定可靠的投手与具有支配比赛能力的投手之间的差别在於变化球的水准。目前Price的 变化球威力稍嫌不足。Price所投的滑球属於快速滑球,不具有水平位移,与他的快速球 将相比有少许的垂直位移。他在面对左打与右打者时使用滑球的比率接近,并且几乎都是 在球数领先时才会使用。为了要让这个滑球成为能够有效三振打者的球路,他必须让打者 在面对他的滑球时挥更多的空棒,但是目前滑球的位移量似乎不足以持续骗到大联盟打者 。 Price threw his change-up only three times in the 201 pitches that PITCHf/x tracked in the regular season. He has been used as a situational lefty, and since it is uncommon to see a lefty/lefty change-up it isn't too surprising that he hasn't used this pitch more. What we can see even from this small sample is that Price throws a straight change-up; it has similar movement to his fastball compared to the down and away movement that we see from a circle change. 根据正规球季的PITCHf/x资料,Price在201球中只投了3球变速球。他是在担任功能性左 投时所投的,虽然左投对左打投出变速球比较不常见,不过对於他不太使用这个球种也不 用感到太惊讶。从这个少许的样本中我们可以看出Price所投的是直坠变速球;他的变速球 具有与快速球相似的下坠与水平位移,类似我们常见的圈只变速球。 Price generates about a nine mph differential between his fastball and his change-up. which is good, but scouting reports say he has trouble locating the pitch and indeed all three of his tracked change-ups were out of the zone. On the positive side, he did throw all three change-ups early in the count, so he is aware that when he does throw that pitch he is looking for strikes with it. Price的快速球与变速球间大约有9mph的速差。算是不错的速差,但是球探报告中却指出 他对变速球的控制能力大有问题,而他所投的3颗变速球也的确都在好球带外。从正面角 度来看,这三颗变速球都是在球数领先前投的,这代表他希望用变速球来抢好球数。 Comparison to Sabathia and Kazmir 对照 Sabathia 与 Kazmir I think the best potential comparisons when projecting David Price are to fellow lefties CC Sabathia and Scott Kazmir. For starters, all three throw a fastball, slider and straight change-up. While there are obviously some current differences in the way they pitch, these are two potential outcomes for Price. 我认为在研究David Price时,最佳的对照为CC Sabathia与Scott Kazmir。身为先发投手 ,这三位都会投快速球,滑球与直坠变速球。很显然地虽然他们的投球方式目前有些不同 ,但是另外这两位投手是Price未来有可能成为的类型。 Kazmir is shorter and not as big as Price or Sabathia, but he still gets his fastball up near 93 mph with a slider that is eerily similar to Price's. The difference here is Kazmir doesn't rely on his slider and uses it much less in strikeout situations. Kazmir个子比较矮,不像Price与Sabathia那样高大,但是他仍然能将他的快速球维持在 将近93mph的球速,再搭配上与Price类似的滑球。差别是Kazmir不依赖他的滑球,且较少 在有三振机会时投滑球。 Kazmir doesn't need a dominant slider because he has a dominant change-up and he is mostly facing right-handed batters. Kazmir gets a ridiculous 13 mph differential between his fastball and his change-up, which gives gravity plenty of time to naturally drop it, fooling batters with the similar spin to his fastball. It will be interesting to see if Price can pick Kazmir's brain and develop a nasty change-up of his own. It seems like Kazmir should be able to help, since they both appear to throw from nearly the same arm slot and both are using the straight change. 由於Kazmir具有优异的变速球,而且他大多数面对的是右打者,所以他不需要优异的滑球 。Kazmir的变速球与快速球的速差达到13mph,这使得地心引力有较长的时间使球自然下 坠,打者会因为这颗球与快速球相似的旋转而上当。如果能见到Price发展出一颗属於自 己的变态变速球将会很有意思。看起来Kazmir似乎可以帮得上忙,因为他们两人的出手角 度相近,且都使用直坠变速球。 Like Sabathia, Price is a tall lefty with some bulk. Both have very live fastballs in terms of movement and velocity. Sabathia's change-up is a little more polished than Price's, but the tools are very similar. What differentiates Price from Sabathia now is Sabathia's crazy-good slider. Price与Sabathia一样是拥有庞大身躯的高个子左投。以位移与球速的观点来看,两人都 拥有非常灵活的快速球。Sabathia的变速球则比Price的好一些,但是基本上两人的武器 是相同的。Price与Sabathia不同的是Sabathia有颗极为优异的滑球。 While Price and Kazmir both feature hard sliders without much movement, Sabathia takes a little more off his and generates more than five inches of horizontal slide with it. That is a truly dominant strikeout pitch, so with hitters frightened of getting to two strikes on Sabathia, you see them swinging at a lot of fastballs early in the count. That seems like a good thing, but actually hitting a 95 mph fastball with good horizontal movement the other direction well is not easy. Price has that kind of fastball too, so if he can develop a Sabtahia-esque slider he can put the same pressure on hitters. Price与Kazmir投的都是位移量不多的快速滑球,Sabathia依赖的则是他那颗水平位移超 过5寸的滑球。这是一颗极具有势的三振球路,所以打者很怕在面对Sabathia时面临两好 球的局面,所以他们在球数领先前挥击了很多快速球。这似乎是件好事,但是要打好具有 优异水平位移的 95mph快速球不是那麽容易。Price也拥有那样的快速球,所以如果他能 发展出一颗类似Sabathia的滑球,那麽他也能带给打者相同的压力。 Conclusions 结论 At just 22, David Price still has a lot of room to grow as a pitcher. If either his change-up or his slider develops into a plus pitch, look out, because he has a fastball that already can make hitters look foolish. As is, he can be an overpowering reliever with a fastball that by itself will be hard to catch up with. While he can mix in a slider on occasion, it isn't a pitch that is going to consistently get major league hitters out. David Price才22岁,所以还有很大的成长空间。由於他的快速球已经足以对付打者,如 果他的变速球或滑球能进步成为一颗优於平均水准的球路,打者就得小心了。目前Price 是一位快速球让打者挥棒难以赶上的後援投手。尽管他偶而会搭配滑球,但是这个球路还 无法持续的解决大联盟打者。 I think the role as a situational lefty is a good one for Price right now, as he doesn't have to worry about throwing his change-up, which clearly is his third best pitch. Just go out and throw strikes with the fastball and see if lefties can hit it. 我相信功能性左投目前对Price而言是一个很适合的角色,他不需要担心投他的第三号球 路变速球。Price只需要放手将快速球投进好球带,看看左打者到底能不能打的到。 原文 http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/a-sneak-peak-at-david-price/ -- NG Life...(我翻译的一些MLB相关文章) http://www.gary711.net http://gary711.idv.st --



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◆ From: 122.117.180.207 ※ 编辑: supergary 来自: 122.117.180.207 (10/21 00:29)
1F:推 argoth:头推 10/21 00:29
2F:→ Kinra:原PO GJ!! 10/21 00:33
3F:推 son8868:颈推 10/21 00:33
4F:推 cowdidi:偷放闪光连结 http://0rz.tw/7c4Uw 10/21 00:36
5F:推 Dorasaga:Good job rooting Kuo!@ 10/21 00:36
6F:推 nedekwn:梅登:这个局我布了10场之久阿~诘诘 10/21 00:36
7F:推 bbbruce:好文 10/21 00:43
8F:推 lodsongyy:感谢 10/21 00:48
9F:推 zehow:科 不知道Price跟我们家Kershaw以後谁比较威 10/21 00:49
10F:推 mm978: 推阿 10/21 00:50
11F:→ jermine:他不是有100mph嘛 还是我记错 10/21 00:51
12F:推 murmur38:PUSH 10/21 00:52
13F:推 wtgcarot:我觉得kershaw未来性更佳 10/21 00:54
14F:推 shisukaca:kershaw目前完成度比较高吧?! 10/21 00:57
15F:推 jayin07:上过大学的Price完成度比较高吧。 10/21 00:59
16F:推 BleedWang:Price1985年生 Kershaw1988年 论未来性的话Kershaw较佳 10/21 00:59
17F:→ Bzbon:好文 好期待 kuo 的分析文章 10/21 01:00
18F:→ jayin07:今年Kershaw甚至有些被rush了 10/21 01:00
19F:→ BleedWang:不过Price 明年应该就可以挤进光芒rotation了 10/21 01:00
20F:推 zehow:Kershaw目前他的曲球比Price的滑球好不少吧~~ 10/21 01:01
21F:推 pika751106:不知道他今天被压得还好吗 囧 10/21 01:11
22F:推 hollowmanx:我觉得他今天投球的感觉很像小小郭XD 10/21 01:30
23F:推 HXZ:所以Price不是被当先发养吗?... 10/21 01:45
24F:→ HXZ:Kuo只要保持健康应该就是杀遍MLB了...XD 10/21 01:46
25F:→ wtgcarot:Kuo年轻的时候 就是像Price Kershaw这两只ㄧ样 10/21 01:54
26F:推 Rodriguez:Kuo刚被LA签下时.被看好很快就能上MLB.且有机会练成大物 10/21 01:55
27F:推 JoshBeckeet:kuo..现在也没很老.... 10/21 01:59
28F:推 argoth:1981年生 现在就被说年轻的时候...XDDD 10/21 02:03
29F:推 Rodriguez:Kuo...全身上下都很年轻.但左手肘很老了..>< 10/21 02:04
30F:推 larusa:郭去美国九个年头了.... 10/21 02:06
31F:→ wtgcarot:跟那两只比是老了阿= = 不过他的经验值跟1985的差不多 10/21 02:06
32F:推 mdfh:推左手肘很老 orz 10/21 02:15
33F:推 TomCourtenay:我怎麽觉得评价看起来不怎麽好 囧 lo 90s + 角度太小 10/21 02:33
34F:→ TomCourtenay:的slider 和进度不明的change... 10/21 02:34
35F:→ aronchen10:我不玩卡...可是推文里的连结真是屌到翻 10/21 02:37
36F:推 jonior:希望有生之年可以看到kuo变成closer.. 10/21 02:38
37F:推 archited:希望有生之年看到kuo完整的在rotation里待满一季 10/21 03:11
38F:推 iliketea:推楼上~他能成为SP是最好不过了 10/21 03:14
39F:推 settier:他手适合当SP吗? = = 10/21 03:31
40F:推 tsming:比起在牛棚不定时热身,规律的SP也许还好一点 10/21 03:40
41F:→ tsming:当closer要连三天登板的话,我实在是很担心郭的手臂Q_Q 10/21 03:41
42F:推 ComicMan:现在的道奇大小联盟,球员教练没几个比郭在道奇待得久 10/21 04:38
43F:→ ComicMan:郭看尽道奇球团人来人去,潮起潮落 不为所动啊 XD 10/21 04:40
44F:推 ComicMan:希望有生之年可以看到kuo变成道奇总教练 10/21 04:42
45F:推 maik0810:楼上结论超有趣 10/21 09:18
46F:推 newest:希望有生之年可以看到kuo变成道奇GM 10/21 09:54
47F:推 tulas:希望有生之年可以看到kuo变成道奇防护员 10/21 09:56
48F:→ Dorasaga:希望有生之年可以看到kuo变成K-You-All! 10/21 10:01
49F:推 wtgcarot:希望有生之年可以看到Kuo变成道奇owner 10/21 10:09
50F:推 Asucks: 希望有生之年可以看到Kuo变成MLB救援纪录保持者 10/21 14:22
51F:推 nir: 希望有生之年可以看到kuo比kuofax还威!! 10/21 21:22
52F:→ nir: 漏气 拼错了koufax才对 10/21 21:23







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