作者Dolacone (拉普拉斯之魔)
看板LoL
标题[情报] 官方论坛：Role of champions, and what they do
时间Thu May 27 10:40:48 2010
虽然板上大部分的人都不需要这东西
不过我觉得这对新手来说还蛮重要的
这东西追究他的细分方向会没完没了
看个大概让心里有个底就好
This list is made for people who are already playing draft mode inhouses,
but are sometimes confused on what heros counter what heros.
This list is intended to help players learn how to play as a strong unit,
and adjust from having a "carry solo Q" mentality.
*Note that some heros are mentioned under a few different roles*
MAIN TANKS
Offensive-Tanks:
Amumu, Malphite, Shen, Blitzcrank
Defensive-Tanks:
Alistar, Gragas
Anti-Caster Tanks:
Cho'Goth
OFF-TANKS
AoE Off Tanks:
Nassus, Rammus, Mordekaiser, Cho'goth
Single Target Off Tanks:
Poppy, Singed, Dr. Mundo, Sion, Blitzcrank, Taric
CASTERS
Inital Area of Effect Casters:
Fiddlesticks, Nunu, Pantheon, Katarina, Ryze, Gangplank, Annie, Ezreal
Secondary Area of Effect Casters:
Twitch, Katarina, Morgana, Karthus, Anivia, Annie, Corki, Kennen
Anti-Caster Specialists:
Veigar, Kassadin
RANGED DPS
Power-Carries:
Ashe, Trist
Circumstantial Carries:
Corki, Twitch, Twisted Fate
Scouts/Laning Phase Specialists:
Teemo, Niadlee, Twisted Fate
MELEE DPS
Intial DPS:
Jax, Tryndamere, Garen, Master Yi, Warwick, Udyr,
Secondary DPS (clean-up):
Gangplank, Akali, Garen, Shaco, Nidalee, Katarina, Evelynn
Laning Phase Gankers:
Evelynn, Shaco
SUPPORT HEROS
Supporters of Physical Dps:
Ezrael, Sivir, Kayle, Janna, Zilean, Morgana, Taric
Supporters of Casters:
Morgana, Kayle, Zilean, Soraka
Pure Healer Support:
Soraka
Early Baron Heros:
Mundo, Poppy, Nassus, Amumu, Warwick, Sivir, Janna, Ezrael
Strong Jungle Heros:
Warwick, Udyr, Maphite,Rammus, Amumu, Shaco, Master Yi,
Main Tanks-
In a team fight, these are the guys that will lead the entire group.
All players should position themselves
so that they can use their ultimates at a moments notice to help the tanks.
Offensive tanks are the ideal "pack leaders".
Defensive tanks are more useful when trying to counter the other champions
while protecting allied champions.
An example of this would be Alistar headbutting a fiddlesticks away.
Anti Caster tanks specialize in shutting down heavy caster teams,
while still being able to lead a group.
Off-Tanks:
Off-tanks are not quite the pack leader, but they support the main tanks.
They usually lack the CC needed to aid allies.
However, they bring powerful dps to a team fight,
and are not afraid to take damage like the squishies of the team.
These tanks help position allied squishies,
because they are able to stand inbetween enemy heros and allied heros.
Casters:
Casters are a main source of aoe damage.
Inital AOE casters take priority in intiating a fight,
after a tank has aquired a target.
They are to co-op with the tank in order to deal massive amounts of aoe damage.
An example would be as fiddle begins to ult,
a main tank will see this and then begin his CCing,
such as an amumu ult or a shen taunt.
Secondary AOE casters usually come in after the initial AOE casters.
They have valuable damage,
but are best used after the intial AOE casters make their move.
An example of this would be Kennen.
Because his AoE damage is a tiny bit weaker than a fiddles ult,
and he is weak to CC, he should go in after intial AOE.
Secondary aoe somtimes prove secondary stuns as well,
such as a kennen or morgana ministun.
Ranged DPS:
These guys are basiclly auto attackers.
While some offer valuable CC,
most of them revolve around bursting down targets one by one.
Power Carries tend to have the strongest auto attacks,
while others offer circumstantial power,
such as secondary aoe damage, or scouting abilities.
Melee Dps:
The intial dps are the ones who can go in first.
Usually they are able to survive longer than other melee dps.
For example, tryndamere can ult mid battle,
and yi can cast meditate if he gets in trouble.
Secondary Melee DPS,
usually fall too fast to be a front line dps,
so they are usually assigned to "clean-up"duty.
Evelynn and Shaco are what i call laning phase gankers,
because they rely on ganking during the laning phase,
before team fights begin.
Support:
These champions are pretty hard to define,
because they have roles that vary so greatly.
However, they should be in the "middle" of the group,
so they can support whoever needs it most,
be it tank or an ashe in the back of the group.
I listed Junglers under support because they give the team the advantage
of having two solo lanes.
I listed Early baron under support,
because they help to make baron a possibility before level 10.
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1F：推 i14d14 :先承认你是来秀签名党的 05/27 10:42
2F：推 bowplayer :这签名档.....wwwwwwwww 05/27 10:58
3F：→ Dolacone :先承认你们只看签名档吧XD 05/27 11:06
4F：推 qwzx8888 :Pantheon被分在Inital Area of Effect Casters!? XD 05/27 11:15
5F：推 wulouise :pan真的只放在caster耶XDD 05/27 11:25
6F：→ Dolacone :听说戳戳看mr 05/27 11:31
7F：推 Istari :签名档XD 原来initial是只在坦克後第二个攻击的我一 05/27 11:34
8F：→ Istari :直以为是第一个攻击 害我想说Ez这麽薄要怎麽initial 05/27 11:34
9F：推 MoneyMonkey :ashe与其说是DPS, 不如说是牵制、骚扰、辅助 05/27 11:35
10F：→ MoneyMonkey :爆发力实在不足啊。 05/27 11:36
11F：推 kafka0 :我也觉得Ashe和tristana两个角色差很多... 05/27 11:38
12F：→ slam :原来ashe R起手没有爆发力? 0.0 05/27 11:50
13F：推 wulouise :五秒一发跟一秒五发的差别 05/27 12:16
14F：→ Xavy :为什麽物理support有morg? 05/27 12:25
15F：推 Tyrannus :楼下sigma ^_^ 05/27 12:26
16F：推 wulouise :morg物理不知道要怎麽走..大概靠盾吧XD 05/27 12:51
17F：推 bowplayer :为什麽副坦没有火甲Morgana...(拖走) 05/27 12:56
18F：推 superxk :Ashe 打人根本不痛 说是控场角还差不多 05/27 12:57
19F：推 yinbunbun :ashe的R通常是晕来给队友杀的 :P 05/27 12:58
20F：→ superxk :对阿 伪DPS 05/27 13:01
21F：→ Dolacone :ashe is fine 05/27 13:02
22F：推 barton :ashe打人不痛？楼上都是遇到noob ashe吗 05/27 13:03
23F：→ barton :teleport,WR同时发射,Q点下去,5秒收工 05/27 13:04
24F：→ Xavy :这是对手noob吧 . 05/27 13:07
25F：→ yaqw :自己玩法有问题 还嫌ashe打人不痛 你要不要检查检查? 05/27 13:28
26F：推 kimoboy :ASHE肥起来真的很痛...我的ASHE拿过26杀~~~XD 05/27 13:29
27F：→ kimoboy :RYZE关我+弹球~球还没弹完我就先射爆他了~XD 05/27 13:30
28F：→ kemono :哪个角色肥起来打人不痛 XD 05/27 13:30
29F：→ Xavy :soraka吧 我想 05/27 13:34
30F：→ SaZib :我看过IE + 冰锤的Soraka 05/27 13:35
31F：→ kemono :肥起来就是靠Build跟等级去压了…吧 05/27 13:45
32F：推 u3mow2000 :ashe其实真的很痛 还没贴上去之前就被他先手好几箭 05/27 13:45
33F：推 MoneyMonkey :Tris、wick、Teemo、Yi、Jax...... 跟这些比起来， 05/27 14:04
34F：→ MoneyMonkey :Ashe真的不是很痛。 05/27 14:04
35F：→ Dolacone :ashe强多了 05/27 14:04
36F：→ MoneyMonkey :强跟伤害高是不同的，进一步说，Ashe比Jax强吗 ? 05/27 14:06
37F：→ yaqw :岳飞打张飞 打个屁洨 05/27 14:07
38F：→ MoneyMonkey :比warwick强吗? 比Twisted Fate强吗? 比Alistar强吗? 05/27 14:07
39F：→ Dolacone :恩，伤害比较高，整体也比较强 05/27 14:08
40F：→ MoneyMonkey :啊.....呃..... 你指的伤害是撑线跳恰恰的伤害，还是 05/27 14:09
41F：→ MoneyMonkey :会战未发生前的削血 ? 05/27 14:09
42F：→ Dolacone :会战前、中、後 推塔前、中、後 都是 05/27 14:10
43F：→ Dolacone :撑线前、中、後 也是 05/27 14:11
44F：推 MoneyMonkey :你是认真的 !? Ashe没有爆发力没有脱逃技没有接近技 05/27 14:12
45F：→ MoneyMonkey :装备相近的情况下是要赢哪只 ? 05/27 14:13
46F：→ Dolacone :同等装备打那几只都没难度啊 05/27 14:14
47F：→ MoneyMonkey :对不起，我不说了，我口气跟礼貌都太糟。 05/27 14:15
48F：推 hawk7130 :驾驶员问题 ashe可以kite到天荒地老没问题 05/27 14:15
49F：→ Dolacone :又该说，ASHE的机体能力，只有赚到同等，还算有点弱 05/27 14:15
50F：→ Istari :不知道soraka走伤害装会有多痛XD 05/27 14:15
51F：→ barton :队友的心比较痛XD 05/27 14:24
52F：→ barton :另外除了也很肥的TF外，ww跟牛对ashe根本不是问题 05/27 14:27
53F：→ Dolacone :TF射程比ashe短 抽牌的时候用W kite 05/27 14:29
54F：→ Dolacone :没牌就开始硬射 发生失误就R 05/27 14:29
55F：推 barton :其实买了Banshee後都不是问题，ww更只能吃屎 05/27 14:29
56F：→ lazarus1121 :ASHE除了压线不强 但晕和缓在会战颇重要的 05/27 14:29
57F：→ barton :TF我只怕他传送偷杀，面对面的确不是问题 05/27 14:30
58F：→ barton :不过remark後R可能在接近战会失去效果，有待观察 05/27 14:31
59F：→ yzpdal :LAZA的压线定义是什麽，扫兵吗？ 05/27 14:32
60F：→ lazarus1121 :生存能力 05/27 14:33
61F：推 superxk :真是对不住~我遇到的都是Noob Ashe 自己的装也会检讨 05/27 14:37
62F：→ superxk :那可否请析一下Ashe的天生技能伤害强在哪里? 05/27 14:38
63F：→ superxk : 分 05/27 14:38
64F：推 barton :最直接的当然是宝贵的人生第一发XD 05/27 14:40
65F：→ yaqw :压人 补尾刀都很好用阿 05/27 14:43
66F：→ yaqw :小兵快死拿去补刀 其他时候就晃晃 有机会就偷射对方 05/27 14:44
67F：推 psboy :Ash的地图兵器很好用啊 偷打中了就是赚到 05/27 14:48
68F：推 superxk :W招吗? 恩那还有别招打人会痛吗? 05/27 14:57
69F：推 barton :你的问题该是在出装吧？试试看第二把装备出BF 05/27 15:00
70F：→ barton :没事多用W扫小兵，你会感受到ashe多好赚钱 05/27 15:01
71F：→ yzpdal :公式：射一下 散射 再射一下 05/27 15:08
72F：→ yzpdal :他要退 你前进射一下 他要进 你往後再射一下 05/27 15:08
73F：→ yzpdal :为什麽不NERF ASHE的射程 我真的不懂-_-... 05/27 15:09
74F：→ psboy :ash光是可以边退边w就玩死你了 _A_ 05/27 15:10
75F：→ yzpdal :宝贵第一发一样套公式 中线对面半条不见 05/27 15:10
76F：推 barton :追ashe就像逆风而上，追到又该跑了，这时风向又变了 05/27 15:14
77F：推 MoneyMonkey :所以说，官方在调弱Jax之前，应该先调弱Ashe ? 05/27 15:36
78F：→ psboy :ash可能会假装打脸实际又给糖吃 毕竟是招牌看板娘 xD 05/27 15:38
79F：推 barton :不需要调弱吧,有这麽多人觉得他弱可见这角色强度ok 05/27 15:42
80F：推 MoneyMonkey :我说真的，如果不是0 ping, 风筝没那麽简单， 05/27 15:43
81F：→ yaqw :测试伺服器好像改成降低散射的数目 但是给侦测能力 05/27 15:43
82F：→ barton :降箭数影响应该还好，近距离R有没有用比较让人关心 05/27 15:45
83F：推 MoneyMonkey :追不到，那就别追，绕背、Flash、Exhaust、逼战，都 05/27 15:46
84F：→ MoneyMonkey :是近身的方法。 05/27 15:46
85F：→ barton :给只老鹰会战更好玩了，老鹰如果会下蛋就更好XD 05/27 15:46
86F：推 sigma3210 :那些近身手段跟0 ping有甚麽关联啊？ 05/27 15:49
87F：→ Dolacone :当你不想追，就是他追死你，你转头ASHE还在你射程外 05/27 15:49
88F：→ Dolacone :我ping130做这些没难度 05/27 15:50
89F：→ Xavy :用嘴说都不准 你们去开一场练习 装满pk吧(捏鼻 05/27 15:53
90F：推 superxk :讲半天又是回到技巧面 实在有点矛盾 05/27 15:57
91F：推 ideos :板上有许多ashe强者 欢迎觉得ashe不强的电电他们 05/27 15:58
92F：→ ideos :让他们从假装新手 变成真的新手 XD 05/27 15:59
93F：→ Dolacone :这游戏不需要技巧吗= =? 05/27 16:00
94F：→ Dolacone :真的该电电那几个假装新手的 05/27 16:01
95F：推 hawk7130 :不讲技巧要讲啥? 05/27 16:01
96F：→ leepeter121 :应该说ashe上手难度低 钱也堆很快 所以算中上的dder 05/27 16:02
97F：推 ideos :这游戏的确要技巧啊 机体强如Jax 也是会遇到noob 05/27 16:07
98F：→ ideos :驾驶 跳进敌阵中 享受吕布般的英勇 然後瞬间被打趴 05/27 16:07
99F：推 wulouise :ashe真的不痛 队友ashe起手last whisper我都想哭了 05/27 16:09
100F：→ wulouise :没攻速没关系 没AD的ashe就只是个会动的exaust 05/27 16:09
101F：→ ric917 :会动的exaust还满威的呀 哈 05/27 16:10
102F：推 tay2510 :好奇想问，exaust是啥? 05/27 16:13
103F：推 wulouise :手残..exhaust 05/27 16:14
104F：推 tay2510 :XD 还以为是新梗 05/27 16:16
105F：→ Dolacone :exaust = exhaust少了一点东西，所以弱一点 05/27 16:25
106F：推 wulouise :要少应该不是少H XD 05/27 16:30
107F：推 yangtsur :咦...我ash都起手LW说,攻不会太弱啊,ult下去都可以扣 05/27 16:54
108F：→ yangtsur :人50-70%的血.然後等一分钟後再ult一次他就死了. 05/27 16:54
109F：→ yangtsur :我是起手meki pendent+2红水.存钱先买到Harmony,LW和 05/27 16:55
110F：→ yangtsur :基本鞋,再买BF sword.. 05/27 16:56
111F：→ SaZib :Ashe出Frozen Heart跟AP装 然後说他攻击弱 05/27 17:22
112F：→ SaZib :你不觉得这很好笑吗 05/27 17:22
113F：推 wulouise :CDR+AP 一发流 05/27 17:22
114F：→ wulouise :但是前期ashe不塞攻击 出LW不如一把bf..Y 05/27 17:23
115F：→ Dolacone :强者的怒火 05/27 17:23
116F：→ wulouise :ashe is fine , nerf sazib!(咦) 05/27 17:24
117F：→ Dolacone :RIOT:SaZib is fine, we'll give him a bird 05/27 17:25
118F：→ Xavy :咦..忘了谁跟我说ASHE招都不吃AP.. 05/27 17:26
119F：→ Dolacone :大冰箭有吃AP 05/27 17:27
120F：→ kemono :大冰箭不是看AP吗 05/27 17:28
121F：推 wulouise :吃1 不算差 只是ult多得是1.5+的XD 05/27 17:29
122F：推 Istari :X的 janna每招吃ap都超级少 05/27 18:19
123F：推 wulouise :ult请把秒数*ap ratio.. 05/27 18:21
124F：→ psboy :Janna是support不是dder.... _A_ 05/27 18:21
125F：→ wulouise :janna小招都有将近0.8的ap ratio耶..这叫低没人高了 05/27 18:22
126F：推 carzy :既然是dps...那为什麽要批评Ashe的"爆发力"?...XD 05/27 18:48
127F：推 MrChiang :我觉得trist比ashe强耶...每次玩ashe都被trist杀爆 05/27 19:06
128F：→ MrChiang :每次都怕他跳过来...WEQ连段+ignite真的颇恶心... 05/27 19:08
129F：→ mike70428 :炮娘初期的连段很恶心 XD 05/27 20:31
130F：→ mike70428 :直接评比机体,我觉得队伍里面没有突入技的角色 05/27 20:32
131F：→ mike70428 :近战大部分遇到ashe都要吃屎 05/27 20:32
132F：→ slam :Ashe中路刚上六是有能力用R塔下硬杀低... 05/27 23:35
133F：→ slam :说没爆发力实在很难相信:$ 05/27 23:35
134F：推 dante0711 :这游戏不像dota dps角几乎都有爆击技能 顶多给个加速 05/28 03:28
135F：→ dante0711 :所以光是很好赚这点就够ashe 当power dps了.. 05/28 03:29
136F：→ dante0711 :拿jax比..ashe叫"ranged" dps 05/28 03:29
137F：推 MoneyMonkey :Tristina, 射程600, Q技加攻速最高有70% 05/28 10:55
138F：推 dante0711 :trist射程不是这样。 05/28 11:02
139F：→ dante0711 :拿同归类的比吗..gragas跟alistar比好软阿~~~ 05/28 11:03
140F：→ dante0711 :抱歉昨晚没睡 不知道自己在说什麽 请monkey大忽略 05/28 11:14
141F：→ eternalwrath:Tristana Q 技最高是 90%吧 XD 05/28 13:35
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