作者BSH99 (BSH99)
看板Knicks
标题[外电] 2012-2013 New York Knicks 赛季前瞻
时间Sat Sep 22 01:17:47 2012
2012-2013 New York Knicks Season Preview
http://ppt.cc/Bnjk
By HOOPSWORLD
It was the best of times; it was the worst of times. Yes, the 2011-12 Knicks
season had a little bit of everything. From the depths of the lockout to
multiple losing streaks, a head coaching change, and fines for inappropriate
twitter pictures, to the dizzying heights of Linsanity – the truncated
campaign had it all. In the end, the Knicks qualified for the postseason, but
were quickly dispatched by the eventual champion Miami HEAT. What does
2012-2013 have in store for New York?
HOOPSWORLD takes a look at the 2012-13 New York Knicks.
这曾是最棒的时刻,也曾是最糟的时刻,没错尼克的2011-12赛季就包含了许多酸甜苦辣的事
,从休息室的不稳到连败,再到换帅风波,还有一些不洽当的推特照片,也有炫目的LINSANITY
,一个缩水赛季含纳了一切,最後尼克在第一轮被热火扫出场,那麽2012-13的尼克会拥有甚麽
Five Guys Think…
5个人的说词
The New York Knicks are clearly in win-now mode and have a roster that should
be able to produce respectable results. The top of the East is brutally
tough, though. The Knicks have enough talent to finish in the top four, but
their season is contingent on their ability to build chemistry and play well
together. Their strength is on the frontline where they feature Carmelo
Anthony, Amar’e Stoudemire, and Tyson Chandler. The point guard position is
a major question mark for them. Raymond Felton was more than serviceable
during his last stint in the big apple. If he can get back to that level the
Knicks won’t miss former point guard Jeremy Lin, now with the Houston
Rockets, at all. They decision to go with Felton or Lin could either be
ingenious or terrible. We should know in short order; either way it will have
a big impact on the Knicks.
3rd Place – Atlantic Division
– Yannis Koutroupis
Yannis Koutroupis:"尼克很明显处於WIN-NOW的模式,他们在帐面上有不错的阵容,
不过要在东区登顶是很难很难的,尼克有足够的天赋爬上东区前四的位子,但他们这赛季的
最终定位则要看他们的化学效应跟是否能融合在一块,他们的关键特点在於瓜骂钱,
而PG则是他们最主要的问题,肥顿过去在纽约打出极为漂亮的数据,如果她能回到这个水平
那麽我想尼克就不会怀念在火箭的豪哥了,不管他们之前决定要选谁,我想我们将很快知道
无论选择谁,都将会对纽约有很大的影响,预测排名 大西洋区第三
On paper the Knicks should be one of the best teams in the Eastern Conference
this season, but the question remains as to whether or not they can live up
to that paper-popping potential. It will help to have a full training camp
with the defensive-minded Mike Woodson running the show, and adding Jason
Kidd into the mix won’t hurt, either. Still, players like Carmelo Anthony
and Amar’e Stoudemire have never been committed to the defensive end, and
without their increased attention to defending the Knicks will struggle
against the elite teams. It doesn’t help that they play in the toughest
division in basketball.
4th Place – Atlantic Division
Bill Ingram:"从纸面上来看,尼克是东区最棒的队伍之一,但是这里有些问题要说
他们真的能把纸面上的天赋转为现实的胜利吗?我想一个完整的训练营将会对防守见长的
武僧来说很有帮助!加入KIDD则可以帮助分配球权,最中意的是,如果瓜骂没有把专注
力放在防守上,那麽尼克将会在对上东区的顶尖球队时感到挣扎,这将会不利於在东区竞争
预测:大西洋区第四
The New York Knicks look great on paper, but we’ll see if their talent can
translate into wins. There are a lot of question marks surrounding this team.
Which Raymond Felton will show up in New York? What kind of contributions can
we expect from Jason Kidd, Marcus Camby and Kurt Thomas, who are three of the
oldest players in the league? Will Amar’e Stoudemire return to form? Will
Carmelo Anthony and J.R. Smith be able to play within the flow of the
offense? Will anybody other than Tyson Chandler and Ronnie Brewer play
defense? How effective will Iman Shumpert be when he returns from injury?
Will the Curse of Jeremy Lin haunt the team? There’s never a dull moment in
New York so this season will certainly be entertaining. Best-case scenario:
The Knicks mesh and make a deep playoff run. Worst-case scenario: The Knicks
implode and become an extremely interesting soap opera.
3rd Place – Atlantic Division
– Alex Kennedy
Alex Kennedy:"尼克的帐面阵容真的很棒,但我们真的能看到他们把天赋转成现实的胜场吗?
这里有很多问题围绕着这支球队,肥顿真的能在纽约重返荣景吗?KIDD,CAMBY等联盟
最老的球员还能贡献多少?阿骂能回归以前的状态吗?瓜跟JR能打出流畅的进攻吗?
还有除了老钱跟小酒以外的人可以打出不错的防守吗?香波会从此次受伤受到多少影响?
豪哥的话题还会继续缠着这只队伍吗?纽约这个赛季绝对会很精采,最好的情况是融合
顺利打出不错的状态,最差的情况就是变成一出有趣的肥皂剧,预测:大西洋区第三
Three of the six oldest players in the NBA are on the New York Knicks’
roster this season, which should be a bad omen for things to come, except
for the fact that two of the three (Marcus Camby and Kurt Thomas) improve the
team defensively, and the third (Jason Kidd) is a seriously stabilizing
presence for a team that was sort of all over the place a year ago. They
might be older, and perhaps a little bit slower, but there’s a lot to like
about the Knicks this year. Plenty of people are gung ho for the Nets, but I
think the Knicks are a more complete team, which is why I picked them to
finish higher in the Atlantic this year.
2nd Place – Atlantic Division
– Joel Brigham
Joel Brigham:"3个联盟最老球员在尼克,这像是个不好的预告,除了CAMBY跟KT在防守端的
影响以外,KIDD也是团队中稳定的存在,但是他们可能老了,也许又更慢了,这里将会有很多
影响到今年的尼克,大部分的人更期待篮网,但我认为尼克是比篮网更完整的球队,这就是
为什麽我觉得尼克将会大西洋区有个好位子的原因 预测 大西洋区第二
The New York Knicks ended the 2012 campaign on a very sour note, but heading
into training camp for the 2013 season everyone on the team is saying all of
the right things. Amar’e Stoudemire says he’s healthy again and in great
shape, Raymond Felton told HOOPSWORLD in Las Vegas he was as hungry as ever
to get back on the court, Carmelo Anthony is saying he sees titles in the team
’s immediate future and Jason Kidd and Marcus Camby are both saying they’re
willing to sacrifice their numbers in order to push the team over the hump.
The Knicks look really good on paper, but the game isn’t played on a stack
of loose-leaf paper. I’m not personally sold on the Knicks putting it all
together this season. If they do, they can definitely make some noise but I’
m not ready to co-sign this as a formality just yet.
5th Place – Atlantic Division
– Lang Greene
Lang Greene:"尼克在2012赛季结束後处於一个很吵杂的状态,在2013的训练营到来前,
很多报导都在说阿骂说他将会更健康,并且有更好的状态,而肥顿告诉HOOPSWORLD:"她很
渴望再次回到球场,瓜则说他看到这支球队未来的标题了,KIDD跟CAMBY异口同声地说:"
他们愿意牺牲自己去让球队更加向上爬,尼克从纸面上看来真的很棒,但是现实比赛
不是从纸面来比较的,我个人还没办法把身家都赌在尼克身上,如果他们真的融合到一块了
那麽的确有地位可以说大话,我只是还没准备好去跟他们站在一块
预测 大西洋区第五
Top Of The List
Top Offensive Player: Carmelo Anthony is inarguably one of the most lethal
offensive forces in the entire league, or planet earth for that matter – as
he proved by lighting up Olympic competition in London. Melo’s versatile
skill set is a nightmare to match up against. He can post up and abuse
smaller defenders on the block and, just as easily, blow by bigger/slower
forwards by putting the ball on the floor. Add it all up, and you have a guy
that pours in 25+ points nearly every time laces up his Nikes. However, Melo
isn’t a one-trick pony. He can see the floor and distribute better than most
give him credit for. Carmelo was one of only four players to average over 22
points and 3.5 assists per game last season (the other three were Kobe
Bryant, Russell Westbrook, and LeBron James). As the centerpiece of the
Knicks offense, New York needs arguably the best season of Anthony’s career
in order for New York to take that next step towards the league’s elite. Can
Carmelo deliver?
尼克最棒的进攻球员是:瓜瓜毫无疑问是联盟中最有进攻威胁的球员之一,甚至是地球上
最有得分能力的球员之一,他也在伦敦奥运上证明过他绝对是,瓜瓜是进攻技能绝对是对手
的梦餍,他可以低位单打,也可以辗过较瘦小的防守者,可以很简单的突破较高大的防守者,
他得25+的分数就跟喝水一样简单,然而,瓜并不是不能做多项工作的人,他可以看到球场上
的空档并且分球,并全部交给他解决好得多了,瓜是上赛季唯四做到平均22分,3.5助攻的人
很显然的,瓜将会是尼克的进攻核心,而尼克则很需要瓜展现出生涯最棒的时刻,以致可以
更向上爬
Top Defensive Player: It had been a very long time since the Knicks were
respected, let alone feared, for their defensive prowess. In fact, for the
better part of a decade, New York was a league-wide laughingstock and Madison
Square Garden was a place where opposing players all too often penetrated
into the paint with extreme ease. All that changed once Tyson Chandler landed
in the Big Apple last December. The numbers that highlight this fact are
simply remarkable. Last season, New York held its opponents to 94.7 points
per game compared to the 105.7 ppg it allowed in 2010-11. In addition,
opponents’ field-goal percentage, which was at 47.2 percent the prior
season, plummeted all the way down to 44.2 in 2012. In the 62 games Tyson
started last season, opposing teams averaged just 93.8 ppg (on 43.8 percent
shooting); in the four games he missed due to injury, New York allowed a
whopping 108.3 points per contest (shooting 50.0 percent from the floor). The
runaway winner for the 2012 Defensive Player of the Year award, Chandler
amazingly transformed the Knicks into a top-five overall defense.
尼克最佳防守球员:"距离尼克的防守让人感到害怕已经过了很长的一段时间了,更别说
更不用说担心他们的防守,事实上,尼克这几年来越做越好了,尼克以前是个常被对手
突破到msg的油漆区的队伍,不过一切都在老钱来到尼克後变得不一样了,突出的数据
证明了这个值得注意的事实,上赛季尼克场均失分94.7而2010-11则是105.7,对手的命中率
从47.2%掉到44.2%,在老钱先发的62场中,对手的厂纷得分是93.8跟 43.8%的命中率,
而他受伤的那四场,尼克场均失分108.3,对手50%的命中率,这些数字代表老钱值得年度防守
球员这称号,老钱的到来神奇的带领尼克成为防守前五队
Top Playmaker: The two previous choices (top defensive and offensive player)
were no-brainers. This pick is certainly not as clear cut. New York decided
let Jeremy Lin walk and received nothing in return, while turning their
attention towards adding Raymond Felton. Now the Knicks need Raymond to be a
reasonable facsimile of the player that starred under Mike D’Antoni during a
short stint in New York back in 2010; as opposed to unimpressive,
out-of-shape Felton that showed up in Portland last season. Having a
competent point guard to facilitate the offense will be crucial to the Knicks
success this season. With the elder statesmen Jason Kidd as a backup-up plan,
New York is hoping the combination of these two veterans can get the job done.
进攻发起者:有两个先前的选择(顶先的防守跟进供球员),但却是没有组织者,这里的挑选
当然没办法很明确的挑出谁,尼克之前决定让豪哥走路,没拿回甚麽,并且把注意力放在
肥顿的身上,现在尼克需要肥顿成为之前在纽约大放异彩的肥顿,相对的前几季的肥顿
则是没被大家所注意到,他在阿拓过了一个很不顺的赛季,如果尼克能拥有一个称职的pg
将会帮助尼克增加在进攻端的威胁,而当kidd在背後当替补时,尼克希望加入这两名老将,
可以把融合这工作做得更好
Top Clutch Player: Melo has been one of the league’s truly elite clutch
shooters in end-game situations since entering the league. The numbers speak
for themselves: According to the Elias Sports Bureau, since 2003-04, Anthony
has shot 24-52 (.462) from the field in the final 15 seconds of the fourth
quarter or overtime in a game-tying or go-ahead situation. Anthony ranks
first in FG percentage (.462) among players with at least 20 FGA in the final
15 seconds of fourth quarter/overtime. Anthony’s 24 field goals rank second
behind Kobe Bryant’s 26 FG over the past ten seasons in the final 15 seconds
of the fourth quarter or overtime.
关键球员:瓜瓜从进联盟後就是联盟中最棒的绝杀哥,有个数据说明了一切,根据
Elias Sports Bureau,2003-04球季那时,瓜瓜在最後15秒的投篮命中率是24-52,命中
率是0.462,在当时排行第二,第一是老大
The Unheralded Player: Of the many moves the Knicks made this summer,
re-signing J.R. Smith at the bargain basement price of $2.8 million for the
2012-13 season might very well prove to the best “bang-for-the-buck”
contract on the books. There are undeniable flaws in Smith’s game,
principally shot selection on the court and immaturity off the floor.
However, at under $3 million, the upside far outweighs the potential
drawbacks. Smith likely could have garnered more money had he hit the open
market, but showed loyalty to his hometown team. Smith is the first to admit
he struggled a bit during his short stint as a Knick last year, shooting just
40.7 percent from the floor and 34.7 percent from three-point territory. Over
his five previous NBA seasons, Smith had shot over 38 percent from distance
and nearly 44 percent from the field. Safe to assume J.R.’s percentages
should creep back to a higher ground next season. And, most encouraging, he
found other ways to contribute to victories even when his shot wasn’t
falling. Smith was asked to play PG far more often than he would have
preferred, by he did a fine job facilitating the offense – kicking out to
Steve Novak three-pointers on a nightly basis. J.R.’s defense was also
better than expected. New York was 12-4 in games in which Smith played at
least 30 minutes. In addition, the Knicks shooting guard situation remains up
in the air, as Iman Shumpert rehabs from a torn ACL (return date tentatively
sounding like February) and Ronnie Brewer recovering from minor knee surgery
as well. While J.R. is probably best suited to come off the bench, Smith may
be primed to prove he is a solid NBA starter. His career Per-36 minutes
averages are surely encouraging: 18.2 points, 4.3 rebounds, and 3.0 assists.
超值球员:尼克在这个夏天做了很多动作,而花了280万重新签下JR,绝对是12-13球季最超值
的动作,不可否认的是JR的打球方式有所缺失,主要是投篮选择差跟场外的不成熟,但是
低於300万美金的价码,补足了这些缺点,JR绝对能从市场上拿到比这高的价码,但是他对家乡
的忠诚让他留下了,JR是第一个承认他上季在尼克打得不好的人,命中率40.7% 3分命中率
34.7%,从他前五年在NBA的风格来看,JR有38%的投篮都是在外线,近44%投篮在3分线内
尼克得先确保JR会乖乖地待在高位等候投篮,更棒的是,JR发现他可以从其他地方帮助队伍
即使他的投篮总是没进,JR开始有再练些PG的技能,而他也曾经做得不错过,有天晚上
他靠NOVAK刷了不少助攻,还有这季的JR的防守实在是超乎预期的好,在JR有上场超过
30分钟以上的比赛,尼克打出12-4的战绩,另外尼克的先发SG目前还是消失状态,香波
跟小酒都在从伤势复原中,虽然JR看起来就比较适合当替补,但或许他这季可以证明
他打先发也是不赖的!
The Best New Addition: As noted above, NY’s interior defense was badly
exposed whenever Chandler went to the bench for a quick rest, or was
prematurely sidelined due to foul trouble. In addition, rebounding was an
issue for New York last season as well. The Knicks averaged just 41.7
rebounds per game, which landed them in the bottom third of the league. Enter
Marcus Camby. Despite his advanced age (38), Camby remains one of the NBA’s
elite rebounders and is still a solid shot blocker and paint protector. Camby
has led the NBA in Rebound Rate each of the past three seasons. Despite
seeing reduced playing time in the latter stages of his career, Marcus has
been remarkably efficient. Since the start of the 2010-11 season, Camby has
averaged 14.1 rebounds, 2.2 blocks and 1.1 steals Per-36 minutes. With both
Camby and Chandler on the squad, the Knicks are the only team in the league
with multiple Defensive Player of the Year award winners on the same roster.
In addition, Camby will allow Mike Woodson to limit the minutes of Chandler
and Stoudemire, which could have far reaching long-term benefits.
- Tommy Beer
最棒的新成员:从以上描述来看,尼克的防守核心就是老钱,但如果老钱不在,尼克的
防守就会崩溃,而从另外一面来看,尼克的篮板是他们的大弱点,尼克上季平均41.7
板,是联盟中倒数第三,不过现在加入了CAMBY,虽然她年纪大了,但她依然是联盟中
最棒的篮板哥跟封阻哥之一,CAMBY目前看来还是很有效率的,自从2010-11球季当先发
以来,CAMBY缴出了场均每36分钟14.1板,2.2个封阻,1.1的抄截,CAMBY跟老钱同时
在尼克阵容中,尼克是唯一一支球队拥有两位前年度防守球员的人,CAMBY会被武僧限制
作者: BSH99 (BSH99) 看板: Knicks
标题: [外电] 2012-2013 New York Knicks 赛季前瞻
时间: Sat Sep 22 01:17:47 2012
2012-2013 New York Knicks Season Preview
http://ppt.cc/Bnjk
By HOOPSWORLD
It was the best of times; it was the worst of times. Yes, the 2011-12 Knicks
season had a little bit of everything. From the depths of the lockout to
multiple losing streaks, a head coaching change, and fines for inappropriate
twitter pictures, to the dizzying heights of Linsanity – the truncated
campaign had it all. In the end, the Knicks qualified for the postseason, but
were quickly dispatched by the eventual champion Miami HEAT. What does
2012-2013 have in store for New York?
HOOPSWORLD takes a look at the 2012-13 New York Knicks.
这曾是最棒的时刻,也曾是最糟的时刻,没错尼克的2011-12赛季就包含了许多酸甜苦辣的事
,从休息室的不稳到连败,再到换帅风波,还有一些不洽当的推特照片,也有炫目的LINSANITY
,一个缩水赛季含纳了一切,最後尼克在第一轮被热火扫出场,那麽2012-13的尼克会拥有甚麽
Five Guys Think…
5个人的说词
The New York Knicks are clearly in win-now mode and have a roster that should
be able to produce respectable results. The top of the East is brutally
tough, though. The Knicks have enough talent to finish in the top four, but
their season is contingent on their ability to build chemistry and play well
together. Their strength is on the frontline where they feature Carmelo
Anthony, Amar’e Stoudemire, and Tyson Chandler. The point guard position is
a major question mark for them. Raymond Felton was more than serviceable
during his last stint in the big apple. If he can get back to that level the
Knicks won’t miss former point guard Jeremy Lin, now with the Houston
Rockets, at all. They decision to go with Felton or Lin could either be
ingenious or terrible. We should know in short order; either way it will have
a big impact on the Knicks.
3rd Place – Atlantic Division
– Yannis Koutroupis
Yannis Koutroupis:"尼克很明显处於WIN-NOW的模式,他们在帐面上有不错的阵容,
不过要在东区登顶是很难很难的,尼克有足够的天赋爬上东区前四的位子,但他们这赛季的
最终定位则要看他们的化学效应跟是否能融合在一块,他们的关键特点在於瓜骂钱,
而PG则是他们最主要的问题,肥顿过去在纽约打出极为漂亮的数据,如果她能回到这个水平
那麽我想尼克就不会怀念在火箭的豪哥了,不管他们之前决定要选谁,我想我们将很快知道
无论选择谁,都将会对纽约有很大的影响,预测排名 大西洋区第三
On paper the Knicks should be one of the best teams in the Eastern Conference
this season, but the question remains as to whether or not they can live up
to that paper-popping potential. It will help to have a full training camp
with the defensive-minded Mike Woodson running the show, and adding Jason
Kidd into the mix won’t hurt, either. Still, players like Carmelo Anthony
and Amar’e Stoudemire have never been committed to the defensive end, and
without their increased attention to defending the Knicks will struggle
against the elite teams. It doesn’t help that they play in the toughest
division in basketball.
4th Place – Atlantic Division
Bill Ingram:"从纸面上来看,尼克是东区最棒的队伍之一,但是这里有些问题要说
他们真的能把纸面上的天赋转为现实的胜利吗?我想一个完整的训练营将会对防守见长的
武僧来说很有帮助!加入KIDD则可以帮助分配球权,最中意的是,如果瓜骂没有把专注
力放在防守上,那麽尼克将会在对上东区的顶尖球队时感到挣扎,这将会不利於在东区竞争
预测:大西洋区第四
The New York Knicks look great on paper, but we’ll see if their talent can
translate into wins. There are a lot of question marks surrounding this team.
Which Raymond Felton will show up in New York? What kind of contributions can
we expect from Jason Kidd, Marcus Camby and Kurt Thomas, who are three of the
oldest players in the league? Will Amar’e Stoudemire return to form? Will
Carmelo Anthony and J.R. Smith be able to play within the flow of the
offense? Will anybody other than Tyson Chandler and Ronnie Brewer play
defense? How effective will Iman Shumpert be when he returns from injury?
Will the Curse of Jeremy Lin haunt the team? There’s never a dull moment in
New York so this season will certainly be entertaining. Best-case scenario:
The Knicks mesh and make a deep playoff run. Worst-case scenario: The Knicks
implode and become an extremely interesting soap opera.
3rd Place – Atlantic Division
– Alex Kennedy
Alex Kennedy:"尼克的帐面阵容真的很棒,但我们真的能看到他们把天赋转成现实的胜场吗?
这里有很多问题围绕着这支球队,肥顿真的能在纽约重返荣景吗?KIDD,CAMBY等联盟
最老的球员还能贡献多少?阿骂能回归以前的状态吗?瓜跟JR能打出流畅的进攻吗?
还有除了老钱跟小酒以外的人可以打出不错的防守吗?香波会从此次受伤受到多少影响?
豪哥的话题还会继续缠着这只队伍吗?纽约这个赛季绝对会很精采,最好的情况是融合
顺利打出不错的状态,最差的情况就是变成一出有趣的肥皂剧,预测:大西洋区第三
Three of the six oldest players in the NBA are on the New York Knicks’
roster this season, which should be a bad omen for things to come, except
for the fact that two of the three (Marcus Camby and Kurt Thomas) improve the
team defensively, and the third (Jason Kidd) is a seriously stabilizing
presence for a team that was sort of all over the place a year ago. They
might be older, and perhaps a little bit slower, but there’s a lot to like
about the Knicks this year. Plenty of people are gung ho for the Nets, but I
think the Knicks are a more complete team, which is why I picked them to
finish higher in the Atlantic this year.
2nd Place – Atlantic Division
– Joel Brigham
Joel Brigham:"3个联盟最老球员在尼克,这像是个不好的预告,除了CAMBY跟KT在防守端的
影响以外,KIDD也是团队中稳定的存在,但是他们可能老了,也许又更慢了,这里将会有很多
影响到今年的尼克,大部分的人更期待篮网,但我认为尼克是比篮网更完整的球队,这就是
为什麽我觉得尼克将会大西洋区有个好位子的原因 预测 大西洋区第二
The New York Knicks ended the 2012 campaign on a very sour note, but heading
into training camp for the 2013 season everyone on the team is saying all of
the right things. Amar’e Stoudemire says he’s healthy again and in great
shape, Raymond Felton told HOOPSWORLD in Las Vegas he was as hungry as ever
to get back on the court, Carmelo Anthony is saying he sees titles in the team
’s immediate future and Jason Kidd and Marcus Camby are both saying they’re
willing to sacrifice their numbers in order to push the team over the hump.
The Knicks look really good on paper, but the game isn’t played on a stack
of loose-leaf paper. I’m not personally sold on the Knicks putting it all
together this season. If they do, they can definitely make some noise but I’
m not ready to co-sign this as a formality just yet.
5th Place – Atlantic Division
– Lang Greene
Lang Greene:"尼克在2012赛季结束後处於一个很吵杂的状态,在2013的训练营到来前,
很多报导都在说阿骂说他将会更健康,并且有更好的状态,而肥顿告诉HOOPSWORLD:"她很
渴望再次回到球场,瓜则说他看到这支球队未来的标题了,KIDD跟CAMBY异口同声地说:"
他们愿意牺牲自己去让球队更加向上爬,尼克从纸面上看来真的很棒,但是现实比赛
不是从纸面来比较的,我个人还没办法把身家都赌在尼克身上,如果他们真的融合到一块了
那麽的确有地位可以说大话,我只是还没准备好去跟他们站在一块
预测 大西洋区第五
Top Of The List
Top Offensive Player: Carmelo Anthony is inarguably one of the most lethal
offensive forces in the entire league, or planet earth for that matter – as
he proved by lighting up Olympic competition in London. Melo’s versatile
skill set is a nightmare to match up against. He can post up and abuse
smaller defenders on the block and, just as easily, blow by bigger/slower
forwards by putting the ball on the floor. Add it all up, and you have a guy
that pours in 25+ points nearly every time laces up his Nikes. However, Melo
isn’t a one-trick pony. He can see the floor and distribute better than most
give him credit for. Carmelo was one of only four players to average over 22
points and 3.5 assists per game last season (the other three were Kobe
Bryant, Russell Westbrook, and LeBron James). As the centerpiece of the
Knicks offense, New York needs arguably the best season of Anthony’s career
in order for New York to take that next step towards the league’s elite. Can
Carmelo deliver?
尼克最棒的进攻球员是:瓜瓜毫无疑问是联盟中最有进攻威胁的球员之一,甚至是地球上
最有得分能力的球员之一,他也在伦敦奥运上证明过他绝对是,瓜瓜是进攻技能绝对是对手
的梦餍,他可以低位单打,也可以辗过较瘦小的防守者,可以很简单的突破较高大的防守者,
他得25+的分数就跟喝水一样简单,然而,瓜并不是不能做多项工作的人,他可以看到球场上
的空档并且分球,并全部交给他解决好得多了,瓜是上赛季唯四做到平均22分,3.5助攻的人
很显然的,瓜将会是尼克的进攻核心,而尼克则很需要瓜展现出生涯最棒的时刻,以致可以
更向上爬
Top Defensive Player: It had been a very long time since the Knicks were
respected, let alone feared, for their defensive prowess. In fact, for the
better part of a decade, New York was a league-wide laughingstock and Madison
Square Garden was a place where opposing players all too often penetrated
into the paint with extreme ease. All that changed once Tyson Chandler landed
in the Big Apple last December. The numbers that highlight this fact are
simply remarkable. Last season, New York held its opponents to 94.7 points
per game compared to the 105.7 ppg it allowed in 2010-11. In addition,
opponents’ field-goal percentage, which was at 47.2 percent the prior
season, plummeted all the way down to 44.2 in 2012. In the 62 games Tyson
started last season, opposing teams averaged just 93.8 ppg (on 43.8 percent
shooting); in the four games he missed due to injury, New York allowed a
whopping 108.3 points per contest (shooting 50.0 percent from the floor). The
runaway winner for the 2012 Defensive Player of the Year award, Chandler
amazingly transformed the Knicks into a top-five overall defense.
尼克最佳防守球员:"距离尼克的防守让人感到害怕已经过了很长的一段时间了,更别说
更不用说担心他们的防守,事实上,尼克这几年来越做越好了,尼克以前是个常被对手
突破到msg的油漆区的队伍,不过一切都在老钱来到尼克後变得不一样了,突出的数据
证明了这个值得注意的事实,上赛季尼克场均失分94.7而2010-11则是105.7,对手的命中率
从47.2%掉到44.2%,在老钱先发的62场中,对手的厂纷得分是93.8跟 43.8%的命中率,
而他受伤的那四场,尼克场均失分108.3,对手50%的命中率,这些数字代表老钱值得年度防守
球员这称号,老钱的到来神奇的带领尼克成为防守前五队
Top Playmaker: The two previous choices (top defensive and offensive player)
were no-brainers. This pick is certainly not as clear cut. New York decided
let Jeremy Lin walk and received nothing in return, while turning their
attention towards adding Raymond Felton. Now the Knicks need Raymond to be a
reasonable facsimile of the player that starred under Mike D’Antoni during a
short stint in New York back in 2010; as opposed to unimpressive,
out-of-shape Felton that showed up in Portland last season. Having a
competent point guard to facilitate the offense will be crucial to the Knicks
success this season. With the elder statesmen Jason Kidd as a backup-up plan,
New York is hoping the combination of these two veterans can get the job done.
进攻发起者:有两个先前的选择(顶先的防守跟进供球员),但却是没有组织者,这里的挑选
当然没办法很明确的挑出谁,尼克之前决定让豪哥走路,没拿回甚麽,并且把注意力放在
肥顿的身上,现在尼克需要肥顿成为之前在纽约大放异彩的肥顿,相对的前几季的肥顿
则是没被大家所注意到,他在阿拓过了一个很不顺的赛季,如果尼克能拥有一个称职的pg
将会帮助尼克增加在进攻端的威胁,而当kidd在背後当替补时,尼克希望加入这两名老将,
可以把融合这工作做得更好
Top Clutch Player: Melo has been one of the league’s truly elite clutch
shooters in end-game situations since entering the league. The numbers speak
for themselves: According to the Elias Sports Bureau, since 2003-04, Anthony
has shot 24-52 (.462) from the field in the final 15 seconds of the fourth
quarter or overtime in a game-tying or go-ahead situation. Anthony ranks
first in FG percentage (.462) among players with at least 20 FGA in the final
15 seconds of fourth quarter/overtime. Anthony’s 24 field goals rank second
behind Kobe Bryant’s 26 FG over the past ten seasons in the final 15 seconds
of the fourth quarter or overtime.
关键球员:瓜瓜从进联盟後就是联盟中最棒的绝杀哥,有个数据说明了一切,根据
Elias Sports Bureau,2003-04球季那时,瓜瓜在最後15秒的投篮命中率是24-52,命中
率是0.462,在当时排行第二,第一是老大
The Unheralded Player: Of the many moves the Knicks made this summer,
re-signing J.R. Smith at the bargain basement price of $2.8 million for the
2012-13 season might very well prove to the best “bang-for-the-buck”
contract on the books. There are undeniable flaws in Smith’s game,
principally shot selection on the court and immaturity off the floor.
However, at under $3 million, the upside far outweighs the potential
drawbacks. Smith likely could have garnered more money had he hit the open
market, but showed loyalty to his hometown team. Smith is the first to admit
he struggled a bit during his short stint as a Knick last year, shooting just
40.7 percent from the floor and 34.7 percent from three-point territory. Over
his five previous NBA seasons, Smith had shot over 38 percent from distance
and nearly 44 percent from the field. Safe to assume J.R.’s percentages
should creep back to a higher ground next season. And, most encouraging, he
found other ways to contribute to victories even when his shot wasn’t
falling. Smith was asked to play PG far more often than he would have
preferred, by he did a fine job facilitating the offense – kicking out to
Steve Novak three-pointers on a nightly basis. J.R.’s defense was also
better than expected. New York was 12-4 in games in which Smith played at
least 30 minutes. In addition, the Knicks shooting guard situation remains up
in the air, as Iman Shumpert rehabs from a torn ACL (return date tentatively
sounding like February) and Ronnie Brewer recovering from minor knee surgery
as well. While J.R. is probably best suited to come off the bench, Smith may
be primed to prove he is a solid NBA starter. His career Per-36 minutes
averages are surely encouraging: 18.2 points, 4.3 rebounds, and 3.0 assists.
超值球员:尼克在这个夏天做了很多动作,而花了280万重新签下JR,绝对是12-13球季最超值
的动作,不可否认的是JR的打球方式有所缺失,主要是投篮选择差跟场外的不成熟,但是
低於300万美金的价码,补足了这些缺点,JR绝对能从市场上拿到比这高的价码,但是他对家乡
的忠诚让他留下了,JR是第一个承认他上季在尼克打得不好的人,命中率40.7% 3分命中率
34.7%,从他前五年在NBA的风格来看,JR有38%的投篮都是在外线,近44%投篮在3分线内
尼克得先确保JR会乖乖地待在高位等候投篮,更棒的是,JR发现他可以从其他地方帮助队伍
即使他的投篮总是没进,JR开始有再练些PG的技能,而他也曾经做得不错过,有天晚上
他靠NOVAK刷了不少助攻,还有这季的JR的防守实在是超乎预期的好,在JR有上场超过
30分钟以上的比赛,尼克打出12-4的战绩,另外尼克的先发SG目前还是消失状态,香波
跟小酒都在从伤势复原中,虽然JR看起来就比较适合当替补,但或许他这季可以证明
他打先发也是不赖的!
The Best New Addition: As noted above, NY’s interior defense was badly
exposed whenever Chandler went to the bench for a quick rest, or was
prematurely sidelined due to foul trouble. In addition, rebounding was an
issue for New York last season as well. The Knicks averaged just 41.7
rebounds per game, which landed them in the bottom third of the league. Enter
Marcus Camby. Despite his advanced age (38), Camby remains one of the NBA’s
elite rebounders and is still a solid shot blocker and paint protector. Camby
has led the NBA in Rebound Rate each of the past three seasons. Despite
seeing reduced playing time in the latter stages of his career, Marcus has
been remarkably efficient. Since the start of the 2010-11 season, Camby has
averaged 14.1 rebounds, 2.2 blocks and 1.1 steals Per-36 minutes. With both
Camby and Chandler on the squad, the Knicks are the only team in the league
with multiple Defensive Player of the Year award winners on the same roster.
In addition, Camby will allow Mike Woodson to limit the minutes of Chandler
and Stoudemire, which could have far reaching long-term benefits.
- Tommy Beer
最棒的新成员:从以上描述来看,尼克的防守核心就是老钱,但如果老钱不在,尼克的
防守就会崩溃,而从另外一面来看,尼克的篮板是他们的大弱点,尼克上季平均41.7
板,是联盟中倒数第三,不过现在加入了CAMBY,虽然她年纪大了,但她依然是联盟中
最棒的篮板哥跟封阻哥之一,CAMBY目前看来还是很有效率的,自从2010-11球季当先发
以来,CAMBY缴出了场均每36分钟14.1板,2.2个封阻,1.1的抄截,CAMBY跟老钱同时
在尼克阵容中,尼克是唯一一支球队拥有两位前年度防守球员的人,CAMBY会被武僧限制
些时间,不过他会带来极大的效益的
Who We Like
1. Tyson Chandler: Chandler’s dominance on defense was highlighted in detail
above, Tyson’s contributions are not solely limited to the defensive end of
the floor. Converting nearly 68 percent of his field goal attempts, he led
the entire league in field goal percentage. In fact, Tyson finished third on
the all-time FG percent list for a season, behind only the incomparable Wilt
Chamberlain. Tyson is also a pest on the offensive boards, constantly keeping
possessions alive by slapping caroms back to teammates waiting on the
perimeter. He was unquestionably the Knicks’ MVP, and would have been a
legit candidate for league MVP had the Knicks posted a better record.
那麽我们喜欢那些尼克球员呢?
1.老钱:老钱在防守的统治地位上是不用多说的,老钱不只是把防守贡献在场上而已,
他还有将近68%的FG,这让他傲视联盟(FG王!!),事实上,老前最後的FG只仅次於上古神兽
张伯伦而已,老钱也很擅长抓进攻篮板,他常常不断地用拨篮的方式把球拨到队友手上,
毫无疑问的老钱就是尼克的MVP,他将可以帮助尼克打出更好的成绩
2. Iman Shumpert: New York will have to wait a few months before Shumpert is
fully healed and ready to roll, but once he returns, the Knicks will get an
immediate and welcomed infusion of energy, athleticism, and defensive
tenacity. Shump instantly became a fan favorite inside MSG last season via
his impressive play and infectious personality. The Knicks found themselves a
keeper in this kid. He ranked in the Top-6 among rookies in free throw
percentage (79.8 percent, sixth), minutes (28.9, fifth), assists (2.8,
eighth), and points (9.5, ninth). Assuming there are no set backs in rehab
(the early returns have been promising), Iman could be a key piece over the
second half of the season.
2.香波:尼克还必须再多等几个月,香波才能回到场上,但是一旦他回到场上,尼克将
得到一个即刻生效的防守能量,香波在上季初登场没多久就成为了球迷的最爱,他那
令人印象深刻的打球风格跟那带有传染力的个人热情,尼克找到他们该培养的球员了
他在菜鸟的罚球排名中排第六名,上场数排第五,助攻排第八,得分排第九,如果他顺利
复出,那他将会在下半年起到关键作用
3. Carmelo Anthony: The 2011-12 campaign was a whirlwind for Melo. For the
final three months of the season, he was barbecued by some in the press and
branded, at various times, as selfish, lazy, out-of-shape and a coach-killer.
During the height of Linsanity, some went so far as to imply that the Knicks
would actually be better off without Melo on the team. Anthony brought some
of this on himself due to an inability to politic with the press, but much of
the vitriol from the tabloids was misplaced disgust at the organization
itself, not an individual player. While there certainly are flaws in his game
and public relations abilities, pinning the Knicks struggles on Melo’s
shoulders (as many have done) is simply unfair and unwarranted. For instance,
during the nine playoff games Melo has played in a Knick uniform, you could
make a legitimate argument that Anthony Carter was the most
efficient/consistent point guard he has played with. Nonetheless, it is time
for Anthony to "put up or shut up". At 28 years of age, and nine seasons of
experience under his belt, New York needs the face of its franchise to
deliver the best ball of his career.
3.瓜瓜:在2011-12赛季的尾端刮起了一阵瓜旋风,他就是报导上的风云人物,在不同
的时间有自私,懒惰,肥胖,还有教练杀手的称号,在LINSANITY的最高峰,有些还甚至
暗示尼克没有瓜会更好,把瓜的那些比赛缺陷跟尼克的休息室风暴,还有公共关系全部
扯在一起是不公平的而且没有根据的,就像是,瓜穿着尼克球衣的9场季後赛,而你可以说
Anthony Carter是瓜一起打过中最有效率的pg,但是,现在就是瓜的"要马爆发要马闭嘴"
的时刻,在你28岁跟9年的nba经验,尼克急需瓜打出他生涯中最棒的一年
4. Jason Kidd: Kidd played his first playoff game following the 1996-1997
season. And he has participated in the NBA’s postseason tournament each and
every single season since. Yes, for 16 straight years, the team J Kidd played
for, qualified for the playoffs. Coincidence? Probably not. Coach Mike
Woodson is legendary for his love of veterans, and in Kidd he now has one of
the smartest and savviest playmakers on the planet on his team. Statically,
Kidd’s resume speaks for itself. He ranks second in NBA history in total
assists (11,842) and total steals (2,559), third in three pointers (1,874)
and eighth in assists per game (9.0). He is a five-time All-NBA First-Team
selection and was named to the NBA’s All-Defensive First Team four times.
Not bad for a backup point guard. And, in the Knicks offense Kidd will likely
frequently find himself open from beyond the arc. Dismissed as a
below-average jump-shooter early in his career, Kidd honed his craft and
developed into a reliable three-point catch-and-make shooter. Since 2007,
Kidd has knocked down 38.4 percent of three-point attempts (In contrast, his
teammate Dirk Nowitzki has shot just 37.6 from distance over that same
stretch). As a matter of fact, Kidd has nailed more three-pointers in his
career than Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, and Kevin Durant combined.
4.老基:老基第一次打季後赛是在1996-1997年赛季,而他之後的每个赛季,他都有参加
季後赛,没错,连续16年,就是这麽可怕,只要是有老基在的球队,就是季後赛保证,
这是巧合吗,我想不是的,而武僧对老将也有种传奇的嗜好,而老基就是当今联盟中,
最聪明最精明的进攻组织者之一,我想,老基的资历我就不多说了,历史助攻排行版,
第二名的人物,还有一些抄截...等等,他绝对是一个不坏的pg替补,还有老基绝对会
发现他在尼克的进攻里,站在三分线的机会大增,老基在他的职业生涯早期是一个低於
水平的跳投者,不过他後期不断的训练,终於成为一个三分射手跟跳投者,在2007年
老基的进攻有38.4来自3分线,比德老还多,事实上老基把三分融入他的职业生涯就像是
乔敦,大鸟,kd的结合
5. Ronnie Brewer: Glen Grunwald landed himself a bargain by inking Brewer to
a contract at the veteran’s minimum (less than $1.1 million) – Brewer has
made over $9.4 million during his previous two seasons in Chicago. Strong
wing defenders are essential in today’s NBA, and Ronnie has proven himself
to be just that. Moreover, while Brewer’s offensive game is far from pretty,
to paint him as a complete liability on offense is unfair. Although he did
struggle with his shot last season, Ronnie’s career FG percentage sits at
50.1 percent. To put that in perspective, Tyson Chandler was the only Knick
to shoot over 50 percent from the floor last season. Lastly, Brewer maximizes
possessions; he was one of just five players in the NBA last season to
average over one steal but less than one turnover per contest.
5.小酒:gg把用一张老将底薪把小酒带来,小酒先前在芝加哥有9.4m的身价,他是现今联盟
中强悍的边翼防守者,小酒已经证明他自己能做到那样,但是他必须证明更多,小酒的进
功目前还称不上是漂亮,要求他去扛一个完整的进攻责任是不公平的,虽然他上赛季对
他的投篮感到挣扎,不过小酒的fg一直停在50.1%,从其他面来看,老钱是尼克阵中唯一
FG超过50%的人,而小酒最大的资产是,他是上赛季唯五做到场均1抄截并低於1TO的人
6. Steve Novak: Of course Linsanity dominated the headlines last season, but
Jeremy Lin wasn’t the only waiver-wire sensation Glen Grunwald plucked off
the trash heap last winter. Steve Novak absolutely thrived in a Knickerbocker
uniform, emerging as the best long-range shooter in the entire league in the
second half of the season. Over the final 35 games last season, Steve Novak
shot 48.5 percent from three. As a point of comparison, over that same
stretch, NY’s starting shooting guard Landry Fields shot 48.1 percent from
the free-throw line. Whenever he was on the floor, almost always camped out
behind the three-point arc, Novak put immense fear into opposing defenses. He
is essentially a one-trick pony, but that one trick was undeniably effective.
The Knicks inked Novak to a four-year, $15 million contract, which is
probably overpaying him a bit, but New York was already way over the salary
cap. And because of the court ruling which allowed the Knicks to maintain his
“Bird Rights,” the signing of Novak did NOT impact Grunwald’s ability to
use the mini-MLE. The only real impact was to Jimmy Dolan’s wallet, both via
the salary itself and the corresponding luxury tax hit. However, it should be
noted that Novak was locked up by the Miami HEAT’s stifling defense in their
first round matchup with New York in April. Novak was held scoreless in two
of the Knicks four losses and connected on just four three-pointers in the
entire series.
6.腰带王:我想不用多说了,在LINSANITY时代豪哥并不是唯一的产物,也不是GG唯一
抽到的乐透,腰带王很显然的在穿尼克球衣时把它的能力发扬光大了,并且在下半年
展现出联盟顶尖的3分射手实力,在去年最後35场比赛,腰带王的3分命中率高达48.5%,
而在同一点拿来比较的,尼克先发SG-LF的罚球命中率却只有48.1%,每当他一上场,
3分线的空档总是跟海一样大,而腰带王则是让对方畏惧他的3分能力,腰带王就是最基
本的单一功能球员,但是这单一功能却是极为有效率的,尼克最後给了腰带王4年1500万
的合约,而尼克也准备好要付豪华税了,不过因为腰带王有鸟权,所以尼克签腰带王并不
影响尼克的小中产,不过该面对的是,腰带王在对热火时被守死的情况,当时的她只投进
4颗3分球
Strengths
Coming into the 2011-2012 campaign, the Knicks had held their opponents under
90 points just five times in their previous 95 games. However, last season
alone, New York’s defense held their opponent under 90 points in 22 of their
66 games. All told, the Knicks finished the season ranked fifth in the NBA in
overall defensive efficiency. This newfound ability to suffocate opponents on
the perimeter and limit easy scoring opportunities will keep the Knicks in
most ballgames, giving themselves a good chance to win each night. (The
Knicks were 21-1 games in which them held the opponent below 90 points last
season).
– Tommy Beer
优势
在2011-12赛季之前,尼克让他们的对手仅有在95场中5次在得分在90分之下,然而,在上
赛季结束,尼克的防守效率变成66场中22次让对手得不到90分,这代表着尼克的防守效率
是联盟前5,这个新改变,将可以让尼克可以更限制对方轻松得分的机会,也让尼克有更好
的机会去赢得每晚的比赛,尼克让对手得不到90分的战绩甚至高达21胜1败!
Weaknesses
Two important offensive categories in which the Knicks struggled last year
were turnovers and three-point shooting. Despite Steve Novak’s deadeye
accuracy, the Knicks finished last season 21st overall in three-point
percentage. Outside of Novak, the Knicks don’t have a true spot-up shooter
that can camp out behind the three-point stripe and stretch a defense. If
Novak regresses, this could be a major issue for the Knicks, as teams will be
able to run double-teams at Carmelo and clog the paint, preventing
penetration. Hopefully for New York, J.R. Smith bounces back and sees an
increase in his long range efficiency.
One other bugaboo which bedeviled New York last season was turnovers. The
Knicks turnover rate ranked amongst the worst in the entire league (27th
overall). With Felton and Kidd, replacing Lin and Baron Davis, Woodson is
hoping this is much less of a concern going forward.
– Tommy Beer
弱点:
尼克两大重要进攻数据在上季都很悲剧,那就是TO跟3分球,尽管腰带王拉升了不少3分球
尼克上季结束3分球是全联盟第21名,把腰带王拿掉後,尼克就没专职的3分射手了...
也就是没人可以把对手拉到3分线了,如果腰带王不在,另外纽约很希望JR能恢复他的身手
并且增加它的效率,还有尼克的TO,是上季全联盟第3多,不过豪哥+大胡子换肥顿+老基
武僧应该会希望这能减少TO
剩下的是说开幕时我们要讲甚麽
还有瓜骂会不会融合的老调 我就不翻了 完工!
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1F:推 Nickal:被看扁扁..... 09/22 08:04
2F:推 skymay:辛苦了 :) 尼克被看扁扁很好阿 XDDD 他们就是群不服输的笨 09/22 09:00
3F:→ skymay:蛋,去年赛季换教练後也完全被看衰 XDDD 09/22 09:02
4F:推 osape:HoopsWorld非常看好篮网,对篮网评价很高,ESPN专家(?)也是 09/22 13:27
6F:→ osape:所以这些专家的帐,球迷不见得都会买,看看就好罗 09/22 13:28
7F:→ osape:看好尼克和篮网的比例59:41,除了犹他州,其他都以尼克居多 09/22 13:29
8F:→ osape:纽约更是达69:31,当地投票人次有3211人。纽泽西也是尼克多 09/22 13:30
9F:推 zzxzero:好文推 09/22 17:09
10F:推 camby909:专家看看就好 去年开季可是被看好冲击冠军 结果磨合失利 09/22 21:05
11F:推 TimofyMozgov:看超扁XD 09/22 22:24
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※ 编辑: BSH99 来自: 180.218.213.115 (09/23 00:45)
12F:推 TBdrays:把大西洋换成东区还差不多 09/23 00:52
13F:推 jayelva:我也觉得把大西洋换成东区差不多 09/23 00:52
14F:→ BSH99:我一开始也以为是东区 结果仔细看了一下才发现是大西洋区... 09/23 02:03
15F:推 david319:1.老赛 2.尼克/篮网 4.76人 5.暴龙.......大西洋区排名? 09/23 04:24
16F:推 david319:老赛要赌KG.Terry的健康 篮网问题在替补 76人有磨合问题 09/23 04:26
17F:推 david319:相对的 尼克问题 1.老将的健康 2.开季前半季SG深度不足 09/23 04:27
18F:→ BSH99:只能说去年开季的表现吓坏那些专家了XDD 09/23 11:01
19F:→ BSH99:今年再好好证明自己吧 09/23 11:02
20F:推 planda:难道太平洋其他五队不用磨和吗? 09/25 11:01
21F:→ planda:超塞不用, 少雷枪Rondo更放的开, JET不用担心融入问题 09/25 11:03
22F:→ planda:篮网就多一个JJ, DW和JJ难道不用磨和?好吧因为JJ没有一哥 09/25 11:04
23F:→ planda:霸气,不会抢DW风采和球权,但篮网还要适应NY的酸迷们 09/25 11:08
24F:推 planda:七六人开季第一课就是大问题: Bynum和年轻诸将是否合的来 09/25 11:12
25F:推 planda:暴龙本来就只是有潜力的搅局者only 09/25 11:16
26F:推 planda:况且今年夏天尼克被普遍被批评的老球皮collector,不就冲着 09/25 11:19
27F:→ planda:瓜瓜而来?这些在联盟中经验地位份量都够的老球皮才压的住 09/25 11:20
28F:→ planda:瓜瓜,不然努力一个夏天,冬天再搞个将帅不合球员彼此猜忌 09/25 11:21
29F:→ planda:那放走豪哥做了其他所有对的补强,全部白费 09/25 11:23
30F:→ planda:对不起,钓岛新闻看太多,是大西洋非太平洋 = = 09/25 11:23
31F:→ TimofyMozgov:倒是觉得超赛少了RAY很伤阿.. 09/25 12:44
32F:→ BSH99:我觉得超赛少RAY还好 反正上季RAY就常伤伤停停的了 09/25 14:25
33F:→ BSH99:就算有出赛真的爆气发威的场数也还好......他上季状况很差 09/25 14:26
34F:→ BSH99:但老赛还是打得还可以,再加上今年多TERRY跟LEE 这两只都还O 09/25 14:27
35F:→ BSH99:K 09/25 14:27