作者orangepie (麻烦)
看板KingofPop
标题Re: [闲聊] Dangerous的封面设计,及设计者Mark Ryden
时间Sat Jul 5 01:47:29 2008
我一直都很想知道dangerous封面那些图案的象徵意义,
在MJJCN上看到一篇陈年老文:
http://myurl.com.tw/4eq0
是MJ Fan Club以前对mark ryden所作的访问,
但很不幸的mr. ryden不愿多作解释,
不过看了这篇文章还是让我发现画中一些以前没注意过的小细节!
我小小翻译了一部分文章, 翻的有点随性,还请大家指正,
里面那些"注"都只是我自己的感想而已,不是什麽很正经的解释
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Q.Did Michael have any input in the design of the 'Dangerous' album
cover and if so to what extent?
麦可是否有参与'dangerous'的封面设计?若有的话又是参与到什麽程度呢?
A.Michael was open enough to just let me go for it on my own. He did
have some specific additions to the painting after I was finished.
麦可心胸很开放,他让我自由发挥.但在我完成画作後他的确又在上面增加了某些东西.
Q.Really? Can you tell us what it was that he added?
真的?他增加了什麽?
A.He wanted his friend McCauley added in the ride car at the bottom right.
He wanted the 1998 pin on P.T. Barnum's Tux. The half white/half black
boy was also some thing Michael wanted added. They were a few more
things also.
他想要把他的朋友麦考利画在右下方的游乐车上.
他想要那个'1998'的别针出现在P.T. Barnum的燕尾服上. (*注1)
那个半黑半白的男孩也是麦可想要加进去的.还有其他一些东西.
*注1: P.T Barnum好像是美国一个很有名的马戏团艺人,画中站他头上的男孩似乎是一
个叫做tom thumb的侏儒,是由barnum发掘训练出来的,他们俩似乎是表演搭档的
关系.见这个网页:
http://chnm.gmu.edu/lostmuseum/lm/335/
Q.Can you tell us what the picture and it's different symbols represent?
For example: Who is the man in the tux and why does he have 1998 on him?
What does the "amusement ride" represent? Who is the "ring master" on
top of the man in the tux, and what does the 7 represent on his hat?
Who is represented by the bust that is half black and half white, and what
does it mean? What about the animals? Why are the dog and the bird
represented as king and queen? And what does the MJ on the dog's crown
represent? What does the "Birth of Venus" statue represent in this
picture?
能告诉我们这幅画和其中的一些象徵符号代表什麽意义吗?
例如:穿燕尾服的男人是谁?为什麽他身上要写着'1998'? (*注2)
游乐车(amusement ride)代表什麽?
站在穿燕尾服的男人头上的马戏团指挥是谁?为什麽他的帽子上要写着"7"?
半黑半白的半身雕像代表谁?有何意义?
关於那些动物,为什麽要以狗和鸟分别代表国王和皇后?
狗的王冠上写着'MJ',代表什麽意义?
'维纳斯的诞生'的雕像在这幅画里代表什麽? (*注3)
*注2:我好久以前看过一个八卦,说mj有一阵子会在签名後加上1998,因为他觉得自己
活不过1998...
我觉得一听就很虎滥,但这里又出现了1998,他真的曾经在签名後加上1998吗??
*注3:我找了好久,维纳斯雕像在左边狗国王下面!
A.Well these are all the questions that I am sure you are very anxious
to hear explained. I feel that if a painting is explained away something
is lost for the viewer. I like the sense of mystery to the symbolism and
wouldn't want that to get lost. It is an important part of the image to
me. I am more interested in how other people interpret the image
themselves.
我相信你们很渴望知道这些问题的答案.
我认为若一幅画被解释尽了,那麽观赏者就会丧失某些东西.
我喜欢象徵的神秘,我不希望丧失他们.对我而言这是画面中很重要的一部分.
我更想知道人们是如何自行诠释这个画面.
Q.There is definitely a sense of mystery to the symbolism! I do
understand your not wanting that to be lost with an interpretation of
the painting. Can you give the fans any ideas about what you were
thinking when doing this? Give them some sense of direction toward the
meaning?
(前面客气话省略)可以告诉粉丝你在作画时心理想什麽吗?给他们一点指引?
A.I am afraid they are on their own! (sorry!)
恐怕他们要靠自己了!(*注4)
*注4:你很可恶!
Q.The entire picture is extremely impressive but, the thing that makes
it most unique is the eyes. How did you decide to use only Michael's eyes?
画作中最独特的莫过於那双眼睛.你是如何决定只让麦可的眼睛出现在画作中的?
A.That was part of the original concept decided by Michael and the Art
Director. That is what I began with.
那是麦可和艺术指导的原始构想.这是我创作这幅画的起点.
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另一篇访问里提到mj:
Noko: One of your most famous images is undoubtedly Michael Jackson's
"Dangerous" LP sleeve artwork - tell us something we don't know about
the King of Pop
无庸置疑地,麦可杰克森"dangerous"专辑的封面设计是你最着名的作品之一.
能告诉我们一些流行之王不为人知的事情吗?
Ryden: I suppose the thing most people don't know, and what surprised me,
was how "normal" Michael Jackson was in person.
His public image is so strange I did not know what to expect but when
I met with him we had a very typical and relaxed conversation.
We had many common interests we talked about. Maybe I am just a freak
also.
我想人们不知道的,且令我惊讶的一件事就是,麦可本人是多麽的'正常'.他的公众
形象是如此怪异,以致於我不知该如何预期;但当我们见面时,我们进行了非常典型
且放松的谈话.我们有很多共通兴趣.或许我也是个怪咖呢.
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1F:推 operetta:推原po好用心 注2的传闻之前有听说过 觉得40岁不吉利吧 07/05 01:56
2F:→ operetta:说MJ觉得自己40岁会死掉 还准备後事..但是是八卦新闻说的 07/05 01:56
3F:→ operetta:个人是觉得这新闻有点夸张... 然後我要推注4 XD 07/05 01:57
4F:推 dales:哈哈哈 注4 其实我看歌迷问那麽细节就怀疑作者会答吗 当然 07/05 02:05
5F:→ dales:我们是想知道越多越好的 不过以创作者的立场的确是这样 07/05 02:05
6F:→ dales:而且那题一次问太多了也会让作者意识到太解析作品~ 07/05 02:06
7F:→ orangepie:我一直觉得MJ那麽爱小孩应该会想活很久陪小孩呀,那个传 07/05 02:38
8F:→ orangepie:闻很奇怪... 07/05 02:38
9F:→ orangepie:虽然可以理解创作者的心情,可是我还是好想知道答案喔XD 07/05 02:38
※ 编辑: orangepie 来自: 218.166.100.179 (07/05 11:41)
10F:推 cheesepoo:MJ对40及1998这数字特别敏感(圣经里40是个经常被提及 07/10 14:21
11F:→ cheesepoo:的数字),他认为自己40 岁那年即1998年将遭到上帝的审 07/10 14:22
12F:→ cheesepoo:判,认为那天就是自己的末日。 07/10 14:22
13F:→ cheesepoo:以上转自MJJCN......@_@" 07/10 14:22