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What Kind of Numbers can the Brooklyn Nets Expect From Him? 篮网队可以期待林书豪缴出怎样的场均数据呢? http://tinyurl.com/ztsowlr The Brooklyn Nets are going to play Jeremy Lin in a bigger role than he’s ever had, and more minutes than he’s ever played. This means a whole different set of stats for Lin, and this is an attempt to gauge what kind of offensive numbers we’re going to see from him next season. 篮网将让林书豪承担他从未有过的重大角色, 以及给他比从前更多的上场时间, 这表示 林书豪所有的数据都将变的不同, 也让我们试着去推估下季林会有怎样的攻击端数据 The numbers I was thinking of are these: Lin taking 15 shots per game, going to the line at least 6 times, and shooting four times from beyond the arc, at least. Now, there are 7 NBA players with these kind of numbers last season: James Harden, Paul George, Kyle Lowry, Russell Westbrook, Damian Lillard, Isaiah Thomas and Kevin Durant. Is this aiming a bit too high for Lin, or is it how dominant he’ll be for the Nets? I sorted their seasons by points per game, assists per game and usage ration. 我是这样想的: 每场15次出手, 上罚球线至少6次, 包含4次三分线出手, 上季有7名球员 有这样的数据: 胡子 & Paul George & K.Lowry & 西河 & Lillard & I.Thomas & KD. 这目标对林书豪来说会太高吗? 还是说这说明了他在篮网队中将会有的主宰性? 连结点 开後可以看到这几位球员相关的数据整理 Is expecting Lin to put up so many shots, and maybe close to these numbers (20 points, 8 assists per game, or something close to that) being too optimistic. Maybe. His per 36 minutes numbers from last season: 16.1 points, 4.4 assists per game, taking 12.8 shots a game, including 4 from beyond the arc and 5.1 free throw attempts per game. Lin averaged 26.3 minutes per game last season, but only on a 22.2 usage ratio. Kyle Lowry, who shares the ball with DeMar DeRozan, was the lowest ranked among the 7 players mentioned at 26.1%, and he still averaged 21.2 points with 6.4 assists per game. Everyone on that list averaged over 21 points per game. 预期林书豪出手这样多次并获得20分8助攻左右的场均, 会太乐观吗? 或许吧, 他上季 数据用36分钟来看会是16.1分4.4助攻场均, 出手12.8次, 包含三分线出手4次, 以及上 罚球线5.1次. 他上季场均26.3分钟, 但只有22.2%使用率. 跟DeRozen一起上场分享球权的K.Lowry, 是这7名球员中使用率最低的, 但也还有26.1% , 他上季场均缴出21.2分以及6.4助攻, 这7位球员场均得分都高於21分 One thing worth mentioning is three points. Westbrook, at 4.3, is the only player on that list to take less than 5.5 three pointers a game. He’s also the only player on that list to make less than 35% of his three pointers. Lin made 33.6% of his three point shots last season, a decline after the constant incline he had since the beginning of his career with his outside shot. Maybe it was the matter of confidence from Clifford constantly using him in different roles and minutes. Maybe it was his elbow injury, or the new shooting motion. One thing is for sure: Lin hitting his 3’s at 37.5%-40% makes him extremely dangerous. 其中值得一提的就是三分球, 西河三分场均出手4.3是这7位球员中唯一低於5.5的, 西河 上季的三分命中率也是这7位中唯一低於35%的; 林书豪上季三分仅有33.6%, 是生涯最低 , 或许这是因为来自Clifford对他的信任导致, Clifford通常给林不同的角色以及不同 的上场时间 但能确定一件事, 就是当林书豪三分命中率来到37.5%~40%之间时, 他是对手眼中最危险 的林书豪 Another thing worth considering is pace. It’s not mandatory: The Raptors were tied with the Utah Jazz at 92.9 possessions per 48 minutes, and the Brooklyn Nets were at 95.2, but they’ve constantly been around the lower regions of the league in recent years. The Rockets, Thunder, Pacers and Celtics were all ranked in the top 11 in possessions per 48 minutes last season. The last season Mike D’Antoni coached, the Los Angeles Lakers were 2nd in the league in possessions per 48 minutes. The Atlanta Hawks were 8th last season in that aspect, with Kenny Atkinson as one of the assistants. When Lin was playing, the Hornets had a 98.4 pace factor, which would have placed them 6th in the NBA. Lin being the point guard means high tempo. 另一个值得探讨的是球队节奏pace, 暴龙跟爵士的pace都是92.9, 篮网是95.2却长年在 联盟垫底, 上季火箭雷霆溜马跟青赛全都是联盟前11快节奏的球队; D'Antoni在湖人执 教的最後一季, 湖人pace是联盟第二快; Atkinson上季在老鹰当助教时, 老鹰pace是联 盟第8, 而上季当林书豪上场时黄蜂的pace飙高到98.4, 可以排上联盟第6, 让林书豪当 控卫就表示快速度的节奏 However, Lin is different from the players on this list, who are all shot-first players. Lin might have been forced into that situation last season and at times with the Lakers and the Rockets, but he’s first about making others around him better. Obviously, if the best thing for the Nets will be for Lin to be their main scorer, he shouldn’t avoid it, but with Brook Lopez expecting good service, and a lot of players who need someone to create shots for them, Lin might have an opportunity to put up some impressive assist numbers, but that 20 points per game might be difficult to reach with so many players depending on him to operate them. 然而林书豪跟上述7位球员截然不同, 那7位都是"自己出手优先"的球员, 虽然林书豪之前 被迫有过得自己优先出手, 但他还是会优先去让他周遭的队友变得更好. 显然的, 如果对篮网来说让林书豪当主炮手最好, 那林就不该去避免; 但当Brook Lopez 等着更好的供输, 以及许多其他队友嗷嗷待哺等着某人替他们创造更多出手机会时, 林书 豪或许将有机会把他的场均助攻数据推上高峰, 那麽场均20分就将会很难去达成, 毕竟那 麽多队友都依赖林去替他们创造机会 So is 18 points and 8 assists per game a solid expectation from him next season? Only three players last season averaged better than 18-8 last season: Chris Paul, John Wall and Westbrook. But totals and even averages can be misleading. SO maybe dial down the expectations? To 16 points, 7 assists per game? Maybe, although we still don’t know the rotation minutes Atkinson is going to be using. Lin’s biggest season in terms of minutes was in 2012-2013, averaging 32.2 a night with the Rockets, 2640 in total. Assuming there are no injuries, he should expect around 2800 minutes at least. Point guards, players who are the basis of everything their team does, play these kind of minutes, and from the looks of the team the Nets built for this year, Lin is going to be hard to keep off the floor. 好的, 那18分8助攻对林书豪下季的表现来说, 是个过苛的期待吗? 上季只有三位球员场 均高於18分8助攻: Chris Paul, John Wall跟西河, 那下调一些到16分7助攻?? 一切都还无法确定, 因为Atkinson要怎样调度阵容各自的上场时间还不知道; 林场均上场 最多的是2012-13球季, 那时在火箭的他场均打32.2分钟, 该季共打了2640分钟; 所以一 切健康顺利的话, 新球季林应该至少能打2800分钟, 这是一般球队里先发控卫会有的上场 时间, 所以如果再考虑到篮网新球季对林书豪的厚望.......豪期待啊啊!!! -- 清晨雾一般的思念, 清新 double, 美丽 double, 捉摸不定 double... --



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1F:推 rick: 8助攻 完全是要靠队友啊! 麻烦队友别手软! 给他一颗颗投进!! 08/08 13:09
2F:推 casman: 16分7助应该可以达标~ 08/08 13:11
3F:推 Peaks3000: 15分/6助 你知道的...XDDDDDDDDD 08/08 13:12
4F:推 Hard1980: 20分 8助攻 期待+1 08/08 13:18
5F:推 ghostxx: 推翻译 健康第一 数据自然会到手 08/08 13:40
6F:推 qazxswptt: 当先发 打的时间又够 近20分 近10助攻 应该是合理预想 08/08 13:41
7F:推 kuloda: 希望赢球 08/08 14:04
8F:推 archi: 助攻也要队友打得进啊.... 18分6助攻应该合理 08/08 14:08
9F:推 jamesyu545: 能有18分 8助攻, 就非常高标了。 08/08 14:13
10F:推 jamesyu545: Lin不是 ISO强的PG, 蛮吃队形战术的 08/08 14:14
11F:推 O10lOl01O: 15分/7助/5板/1抄/1锅 得分要看3PT%有没有改善 08/08 14:29
12F:→ O10lOl01O: 但15分是起码要求 三分如果有准 那20分可以期待 08/08 14:29
13F:推 phix: 15分6助就三千万的抠尼了耶 08/08 14:33
14F:推 Peaks3000: 15/6 就TOP10+顶薪了捏 XDDDDDD 08/08 14:38
15F:→ O10lOl01O: 可你要找的到冤大头愿意签阿XD 08/08 14:42
16F:推 JerrySloan: 熊头 08/08 14:44
17F:推 O10lOl01O: 熊熊额度已经用完惹 下次请早 08/08 14:55
18F:推 kinki999: 怎麽国外报导比迷迷还有自信啊~qq 08/08 15:06
19F:推 bonnysu: 作者Greg就是一位忠实林迷阿XDDD 08/08 15:17
20F:推 TimeEngine: 在黄蜂时有走路人可以吸引对手注意,在篮网对手後场只 08/08 15:21
21F:→ TimeEngine: 要针对Lin,所以Lin下季出手相对会比较困难 08/08 15:24
22F:推 eileen86: 林上季出手也是相对不易 面对的几乎都是比自己高大的SG 08/08 15:28
23F:推 HuangJS: 林ISO中上啦 08/08 15:29
24F:推 boyd1014: 17-7 08/08 16:19
25F:推 pain2: 林火箭第一年就达到大约14分6助了 08/08 16:25
26F:→ pain2: 篮网没霸球王 但队友弱不少 15分6助应该是底线 08/08 16:26
27F:推 nate567: 健康优先,希望可以顺利打完 08/08 16:28
28F:→ phix: 问题就体力 不知能撑多久 08/08 16:28
29F:推 jstar100: 无论怎麽说,至少出手数可以到15以上 08/08 16:37
30F:推 eileen86: 林体力没问题 只是林不像很多球星只要专心进攻就好 08/08 16:55
31F:→ eileen86: 林还需拼防守... 这本来就耗体力 08/08 16:55
32F:推 Koch: 全员加光环才是重点啦 08/08 16:58
33F:推 yurian: 不要常常有一场只得4 5分 又被守死一堆失误无法制造机会就 08/08 17:05
34F:→ yurian: 好了 08/08 17:05
35F:→ yurian: 只要顺顺打 每场命中率控制好拿个十分以上 助攻机会有做出 08/08 17:06
36F:→ yurian: 来就可以了 08/08 17:06
37F:推 samtang: 先发体力比较好调节,在黄蜂常有34节连打超过12分的... 08/08 17:29
38F:→ samtang: 篮网阵容不打团队也不行,刚好适合LIN的风格 08/08 17:30
39F:推 casman: 连上20分钟的都有, 只是那是在整季场均26分钟的情况, 这一 08/08 17:32
40F:→ casman: 季很可能是场均32~36分钟, 应该没有先发体力比较好调节这 08/08 17:32
41F:→ casman: 种事 08/08 17:32
42F:→ casman: 上一季会有连续上超过12分钟不是因为林替补的身份, 是因为 08/08 17:33
43F:→ casman: 林的重要性和特性, 如果把林摆在先发, 他还是有可能连续上 08/08 17:33
44F:→ casman: 一节以上的时间, 这跟先发替补应该没有正相关 08/08 17:34
45F:推 akainorei: 原来是Greg... 08/08 17:45
46F:推 sillywhoever: 最重要的是:林有能力让每个队员都变好! 08/08 18:00
47F:推 springman: 期待有好的表现! 08/08 18:10
48F:推 Mondesi2006: 希望17分5助就很爽了 自干一点 08/08 18:35
49F:推 jt: 先发还是比较好调整状态和体力的 08/08 18:36
50F:→ jt: 会连续上场超过一节 这是教练调度方式的问题 08/08 18:37
51F:推 jt: 场均成绩还是可以期待的 不必高估也不用过分看低 08/08 18:46
52F:推 surfkevin: 我怕他已习惯不出手了,然後队友再没把握,他的数据… 08/08 18:58
53F:推 donnylee: 不会习惯不出手,当林自己知道是要来左右战局的,就不会 08/08 19:58
54F:→ donnylee: 畏缩了,看他上季先发场次的表现就几乎可以推敲一二 08/08 19:58
55F:推 expedition: 较担心是他打出什麽样的节奏,面对左右战局时是否管用 08/09 00:07
56F:→ expedition: 面对一线时在个人表现跟全队表现是否能取到平衡跟挺住 08/09 00:09
57F:推 soulfully: ok的,别担心,球员也不可能每场都打得好,但林会去调 08/09 08:41
58F:→ soulfully: 整找到最好的赢球方程式 08/09 08:41
59F:→ vyjssm: 根据对手要调整吧,好像专打马刺怎回事? 08/09 08:53
60F:→ coosla: 5-6助应该是合理值 08/09 09:53
61F:推 cute101037: 25分10助工篮板随便抄截随便 配上前面失误能4以下就好 08/09 11:06
62F:→ cute101037: 加油加油加油阿~~~ 08/09 11:07
63F:→ cute101037: 对了问一下,篮网有谁可以配合林的空抛球麽??? 08/09 11:08
64F:推 eileen86: Booker 状元郎 RHJ 08/09 11:10
65F:→ O10lOl01O: 状元郎...我还是叫他水货哥好了... 08/09 14:35
66F:→ miha80425: 水哥班奈特 08/09 15:36
67F:→ darkfeather: 空抛怎麽能忘了德国干篮哥XDD 不过进攻只整篮下,上 08/09 15:53
68F:→ darkfeather: 场时间可能不多 08/09 15:53
69F:推 sodes72: 推 08/09 17:53
70F:推 bingobin: 豪神不是已经有大胡子八成买饭功力了。场均8罚球。 08/09 21:14
71F:推 casman: 内文都写上季场均5.1颗罚球了 08/10 00:40
72F:→ kimikott: 刚看高光,发现Lin打high之後,有像鲁夫开二档一样,身 08/10 09:51
73F:→ kimikott: 体呈现粉红色的状况,呵。。。(上季对骑士和马刺都有) 08/10 09:51
74F:推 O10lOl01O: 你仔细看 头发还有发黄光 08/10 15:09
75F:推 GIE13: 上面的都没看仔细 身体周围还有淡淡金色的气 08/10 16:25
76F:推 playing808: 很期待 推 08/11 00:43







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