作者kevin2 (NYSleepless)
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标题[外絮] Nets could be open to dealing Deron Wi
时间Sat May 17 12:33:18 2014
篮网可能有意愿拿Williams交易Lin,Asik
CF根据另一则交易流言的讨论
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May 16, 2014 2:35 PM By Ben DuBose
It’s been almost six months since the Rockets reportedly approached the Nets
about a potential swap of disgruntled center Omer Asik and guard Jeremy Lin
for Brooklyn point guard Deron Williams.
据报导,距上次火箭队接触了篮网队已经快半年了,他们讨论有关於拿心生不满的中锋
Asik跟後卫Lin来交换布鲁克林後卫Williams的潜在可能性。
Back then, the Nets were said to be uninterested. But in the aftermath of a
disappointing second-round loss in five games to Miami, things may have
changed.
当时篮网被传不感兴趣。但是,在令人失望跟热火的第二轮比赛後,事情可能已经改变
了。
Brian Geltzeiler of HoopsCritic.com reports that Williams and the Nets have
a “pending divorce” and have mutually decided to look elsewhere.
在HoopsCritic.com的Brian报导出Williams和篮网准备离婚,并决定各自精采。[注:篇
末,会附补上另外这篇报导]
“Sources have told HoopsCritic.com that this falling out between Williams
and Nets management, specifically Nets GM Billy King, has resulted in a
mutual decision between the two parties to split,” Geltzeiler wrote.
“Williams, and his wife, essentially want out of Brooklyn and King is more
than happy to accommodate them.”
“消息人士告知Williams跟篮网管理阶层闹翻了,特别是篮网总经理Billy King,这导
致双方之间的共同决定分手,Williams夫妇基本上是想离开布鲁克林,而King已经非常
乐意满足他们。”
Geltzeiler goes on in his story to list the Rockets as a possible
destination.
Geltzeiler列出一个可能的目的地--火箭队。
“If Morey offers… the same package in the forthcoming offseason, I don’t
think King will say no,” Geltzeiler wrote.
“如果Morey...在即将到来的休赛期提出相同的包裹,我不认为King会说不”。
Williams isn’t likely to be on the front burner for the Rockets, who
continue to search for a third star player to put around James Harden and
Dwight Howard. The clear top priority would seem to be Carmelo Anthony, who
unlike Williams, had one of the best seasons of his career in 2013-14 and
still appears very much in his prime, statistically.
Williams已经不是火箭队所要寻找的,来围绕Harden跟Howard的第三个明星球员。明显
的首要目标似乎是Anthony,不像Williams,2013-14年度有着最佳的一季的表现,统计
上显示他似乎仍然在他的全盛期。
But the catch to the pursuit of Anthony or any other top free agent this
summer, including Kyle Lowry, is that the Rockets would likely have to find
a way to move both Asik and Lin, either through a sign-and-trade or to an
outside destination for cap relief. Asik probably wouldn’t be a problem to
move, but finding a home for Lin could be trickier, especially given his
balloon payment to $15 million next season in real dollars (though his cap
figure remains at $8.3 million).
但在今年夏天获取到Anthony或任何其他顶级自由球员包括Lowry,火箭队很可能不得不
找到方法来交易Asik跟Lin,无论是通过先签後换或者是为工资帽减压的这个的目地。
Asik可能不会是个问题,但要为Lin找到个家可能是棘手的,尤其是考虑到他下个赛季
的$15M薪资(虽然他的工资帽数字仍为$8.3M)。
If Morey is able to move Lin for cap relief, the Rockets would seemingly be
all-in on Anthony or another prized free agent. But that’s far from a done
deal and if such a move isn’t possible, the Rockets would appear to be left
with three realistic options.
如果Morey能够将Lin交易掉来为工资帽减压,火箭看起来是会对Anthony或其他珍贵的
自由球员梭哈。但是,这机会看来不大,如果这样的交易若是不可能的的话,火箭队似
乎是只剩下三个较切实际的选择。
1.) Keep Lin on the roster and trade Asik, either for cap relief (allowing
Houston to target a middle-of-the-pack free agent, not a max guy) or for a
player under contract from another team. Sam Smith writes at NBA.com that
the Hawks could be interested in starting Asik at center and moving Al
Horford to power forward, a plan that could presumably make Atlanta’s
current starter at power forward, Paul Millsap, a trade target for Houston
(yet again).
1.)保留Lin交易Asik,无论是减轻工资帽(允许休士顿找到个中等的自由球员,而不
是一个有大约的家伙),或者是一个从其它队来的有约的球员。在NBA.com的Sam Smith
报导出老鹰准备把Al Horford移到大前锋的位置,而对於让中锋Asik来先发感到有兴趣
,这可能让亚特兰大目前的先发大前锋,Paul Millsap成为休士顿交易目标。
2.) Keep both Lin and Asik on the roster going into next season. That would
allow Houston to either trade Lin/Asik as expiring contracts near the
February 2015 deadline to teams looking for cap relief, or simply let their
contracts expire as Rockets after the 2014-15 season and attempt to use the
savings in 2015 free agency. That class, of course, is headlined by Kevin
Love.
2.)下个赛季保留二者。这将允许休士顿,在2015二月交易截止日前,交易掉这两个到
期约,让球队减轻工资帽压力,或者乾脆在2014-15赛季结束後让他们的合约到期,而
这能让火箭队2015年省下的钱用在自由球员市场。当然是由Kevin Love成为头条新闻。
3.) Go after Williams.
The highest upside of those three paths would seem to be No. 2, but it
doesn’t come without risk. The Rockets cited injuries and a lack of
continuity as being behind many of their inconsistencies in 2013-14, and
delaying the arrival of the team’s next big piece would also defer the
integration period with Harden and Howard. It also goes without saying that
free agency offers no guarantees.
3.)追求Williams。
这三个途径的最上策,似乎是第2条路,但它并非没有风险。由於火箭队伤病和缺乏持
续性造成2013-14年赛季的不稳定性,以及延缓了球队下一个大拼图的到来,会推迟了
Harden跟Howard的整合。更不用说,自由球员市场能提供任何保障。
Deron Williams had one of his worst statistical years in 2013-14.
Williams在2013-14年有记录上最差的一年。
Williams, on the other hand, would be available this summer and ready for
2014 training camp — and Geltzeiler writes that the need to move Lin would
not be a stumbling block.
在另一方面,Williams将在今年夏天上架,并在2014年训练营内准备就绪,而据他报
导,交易Lin的需要将不再是个绊脚石。
“Most teams would find [the balloon] payment objectionable,” he said. “The
Nets aren’t most teams. The Nets paid a record amount of luxury tax this
season, and there are no indications that their billionaire owner Mikhail
Prokhorov has any interest in spending less.”
“大多数球队会觉得[膨风]薪资令人反感,”他说。“篮网不是那些大多的球队。篮网在
本赛季支付创下纪录的奢侈税,而且没有迹象显示他们的亿万富翁老板Mikhail
Prokhorov有任何兴趣减少开支。“
It’s not a slam-dunk decision for the Rockets, of course. Williams will
soon be 30 years old, and the Nets are open to trading him for a reason.
After all, Williams is coming off a season in which he posted his lowest
PER (17.6) since his second year in the NBA and his fewest points (14.3)
and assists (6.1) per game since his rookie year.
对於火箭来说这不是大获全胜的决定,当然。Williams很快将30岁了,之於某个原因
篮网愿开放交易他。毕竟Williams才刚在这赛季中表现出自从他加入NBA第二年以来
最低的PER( 17.6 ),和自新秀年以来的场均最低分(14.3)和助攻(6.1)。
Additionally, Williams is owed $62 million over the next three years, which
means that the Rockets would essentially be “capped out” for the remainder
of Harden and Howard’s current contracts. They’d still have mid-level
exceptions (MLE) each summer, but by and large, it would be an all-in move
by Morey with the Harden/Howard/Williams trio.
此外,在未来三年内还欠着Williams$62M美元,这意味着加上Harden跟Howard现行合
约的剩余部分,火箭基本上薪资到顶了。每年夏天他们仍然有中产例外( MLE ),但
总的来说,这将是Morey押在Harden/Howard/Williams三巨头的一个梭哈的举动。
The upside, though? It’s not as if Williams’ subpar season is part of a
broader trend. In fact, his metrics in 2012-13 — just one year ago — were
arguably his best ever in nine NBA seasons, especially on offense. And a
case can certainly be made that injuries (Williams is planning offseason
ankle surgery to clean up nagging issues) and the integration of newcomers
Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett into the Brooklyn offense played a role in his
2013-14 decline.
那好处是?这并不是因为Williams欠佳的球季是一个未来的趋势。事实上,他在2012-
13的衡量标准 - 就在一年前 - 几乎可以说是他在九个NBA赛季中有史以来最好的一季
,尤其是在进攻上。并可以作出伤病(Williams计划休赛期的脚踝手术,清理烦人的问
题)和与Paul Pierce跟Kevin Garnett这些新人加入布鲁克林进攻的整合,对他2013-
14年衰退有举出一定的关联。
We know the Rockets have long been fans of the ex-Illinois point guard,
including in 2011, when Houston made a strong bid for Williams before the
Jazz ultimately dealt him to Brooklyn. The Rockets were also said to be
interested in Williams again heading into his 2012 free agency.
我们知道火箭队长期以来一直是这个前伊利诺控卫的粉丝,包括在2011年,在最终爵士
把Williams卖给布鲁克林之前,火箭在Williams上大举的加码 。火箭队也被传说对将
在2012年再次变成自由球员的Williams有兴趣。
We also know Howard has liked Williams, dating back to his ”lists” when
demanding a trade from Orlando in 2011 and 2012. Both times, Brooklyn — led
by Williams — was at the top. And instead of spending another one of
Howard’s dwindling prime years waiting on a trade or free agent that could
be, a move for Williams would make the Rockets fully focused on the
present and what is.
在2011年和2012年,当Howard要求从奥兰多交易时,可以追溯到他的“清单”上,我们知
道Howard一直是喜欢Williams,这两次,布鲁克林 - 由Williams在上面着领军。与其
再次浪费Howard所渐渐流失的青春岁月来等待一个交易或成为自由球员,不如来一个对
Williams的交易,而这将使火箭队能完全专注於目前他们所拥有的。
For his part, Williams is even a Texas native, having grown up in suburban
Dallas, and would likely jump at the chance to play closer to home.
对他而言,Williams更是一个德州本地人,在郊区的达拉斯长大,并可能抓住机会找离
家较近的地方打球。
None of those factors is enough to vault Williams ahead of Anthony or
immediate cap space as the Rockets’ offseason priority, of course. But any
bigger pursuit also comes with a difficult question:
当然这些因素不足以让Williams高过於Anthony或是火箭队休赛期所需要的薪金空间的
这个优先。但是,任何大鱼的追求同样都遭遇了一个棘手的问题:
Can Morey move Lin for cap relief?
Morey交易Lin可以让工资帽解压?
If the answer is no, the Williams scenario could very well be revisited as a
fallback option.
如果答案是否定的,Williams很可能再次作为一个退而求其次的选择。
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以上这篇所引用的报导,只拮取跟翻译有关於林的部份如下:
The Deron/Brooklyn Pending Divorce The Deron/Brooklyn Pending Divorce
http://0rz.tw/P2OVR
Posted by Brian Geltzeiler at 5/16/2014 12:36 PM
One interesting spot to keep an eye on as a possible destination for
Williams is the Houston Rockets. There were some unconfirmed reports that
Rocket GM Daryl Morey had approached King at last year’s trade deadline
about a deal for Williams offering Jeremy Lin and Omer Asik. King reportedly
turned him down flat. Morey was quoted as saying after the Rockets 1st round
loss to Portland that he would certainly pursue an All Star to join Dwight
Howard and James Harden. Williams isn’t necessarily an All Star anymore,
but he’s not necessarily a hopeless case either. If Morey offers him the
same package in the forthcoming offseason, I don’t think King will say no.
Lin ad Asik are both difficult players to deal because even though they each
count against the salary cap at a reasonable $8 million per year figure,
they’re each actually pocketing approximately $15 million in balloon
payments as a result if the poison pill contracts Morey signed them both to.
The acquiring team would be obligated to pay the balloon payment. Most
teams would find one of those payments objectionable let alone two. The
Nets aren’t most teams.
Williams未来可能的的动向可能是休士顿火箭队。有一些未经证实的报导指称,火箭队
总经理Morey曾向King在去年的交易截止日前提出了用Lin跟Asik来交换Williams。据报
导,King一口回绝。
据引述,Morey在火箭队第一轮输给波特兰後说,他一定会追求一个明星球员来加入
Howard跟Harden。
Williams不一定再是个明星球员了,但他也不一定是一个没未来的情况。如果在即将到
来的休赛期,Morey向King提供相同的包裹,我不认为King会说不。
Lin跟Asik都是很难交易的球员,因为即使他们每个人计算在工资帽上只有合理的$8M美
元一年,他们两个都会有$15M美元入袋,由於Morey以毒药合约签下他们两个。
收购的团队将有义务支付膨胀的款项。大多数球队会觉得这些款项令人反感,更别说一
次是两个。但篮网并不是大多数的球队。
The Nets paid a record amount of luxury tax this season and there are no
indications that their billionaire owner Mikhail Prokhorov has any interest
in spending less. As long as Prokhorov doesn’t mind paying the balloon
payments, bringing in Lin and Asik accomplishes two important objectives for
Brooklyn. It allows them to stay competitive next year, with Lin (and Shaun
Livingston) replacing Williams and Asik replacing Garnett, whether Garnett
reires or accepts a reserve role. Plus, Asik and Lin both have expiring
contracts which gets King out from under this Williams albatross and allows
him to be a player in free agency as early as the summer of 2015. It would
be a no brainer deal for King as long as he has the support of his owner’s
more than ample checkbook.
篮网本赛季支付创纪录的奢侈税的金额,也没有迹象显示着他们的亿万富翁老板Mikhail
Prokhorov有想要减少开支的念头。
只要Prokhorov不介意付出大帐单,引进Lin和Asik成布鲁克林的两个重要目标。这使他
们明年能保持竞争力,由Lin(和Shaun Livingston)取代Williams,Asik替换Garnett
,Garnett是否退休或接受替补的角色。
加上,Asik跟Lin两人到期约,这能让King从Williams这个信天翁下面逃过,允许他及早
在2015年的夏天成为一个在自由球员市场的玩家。
对於King来说,这将是一个不需要脑筋的交易,只要他有他的老板的支持高过绰绰有余
的支票簿。
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1F:推 phix :快换 05/17 12:40
2F:推 ZhouGongJin :希望成真 05/17 12:43
3F:推 seto :ex-illinois指的应该是D-Will以前是伊利诺大学的PG 05/17 12:55
4F:推 wylscott :拜托快换 05/17 12:57
5F:推 Mentha :感谢翻译 辛苦了 05/17 13:04
6F:推 belion :快换+1 05/17 13:04
7F:推 senaswong :根本! 有道理, 快换吧! 05/17 13:05
8F:→ ElliotMa :天下第一控肉 05/17 13:09
9F:推 patrickleeee:换 换 换 换 换 换 换 换 换 换 换 换 换 换 换 换 05/17 13:20
10F:推 rig2121 :说的真好,那就换吧!! 05/17 13:23
11F:推 windband64 :快换+1,只要能逃离冰箱就好,成长期宝贵阿XD 05/17 13:24
※ 编辑: kevin2 (76.100.228.149), 05/17/2014 13:46:33
12F:推 solane :OMG 快换吧 05/17 13:51
13F:推 thanos :小胖这系列赛的鸟表现 我相信篮网是愿意换的 05/17 14:00
14F:→ thanos :但火箭恐怕不愿意喔 05/17 14:00
15F:→ thanos :看篮网还能不能拿让火箭心动的筹码吧 不然我觉得火箭 05/17 14:02
16F:→ thanos :不至於会笨到拿当打之年的万用包去换开始衰退的蝶龙 05/17 14:03
17F:→ thanos :如果要丢万用包 火箭会比较想换瓜瓜喔 05/17 14:03
18F:推 peggie :当打之年又如何?冰着椅子上也打不了。林:TRARD ME 05/17 14:05
19F:→ peggie :Trade.....打太急 XDDDDD 05/17 14:06
20F:推 vilovej :快换! 05/17 14:37
21F:推 eileen86 :\\快换//\\快换//\\快换//\\快换//\\快换//\\快换// 05/17 14:44
22F:推 jt :快换吧! 05/17 14:46
23F:→ poswem :火箭队有缺控卫吗 = = 05/17 14:54
24F:推 JBGPOIU :快换啊!!!!!! 05/17 14:54
25F:推 shinhome :快换!!! 去篮网可以当老基弟子 05/17 15:02
26F:推 zujjee :拜托快换!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 05/17 15:04
27F:推 plzsmile :老基现在走ISO风格 换去不会比较好 但好处是回先发… 05/17 15:05
28F:→ plzsmile :… 05/17 15:05
29F:→ Miseryz :虽然篮网老板很有钱也很敢花钱,但我不认为是个盘子 05/17 15:05
30F:→ Miseryz :一次收Lin和Asik两个,可是要多付(15M-8.3M)X2 05/17 15:06
31F:→ Miseryz :Deron可以换的又不只是万用包,和别队换都还比较值钱 05/17 15:09
32F:推 kerotamama :是箭队莫胖自己打去兜售万用包 和melo有什麽关系 毒 05/17 15:23
33F:→ kerotamama :药换毒约也刚好而已 篮网赚到15年薪资空间 箭队补到 05/17 15:23
34F:→ kerotamama :全明星控卫超赚还嫌啥= = 05/17 15:23
35F:推 jeffliao1 :希望能成真 但莫雷会要德隆吗.... 05/17 15:31
36F:推 wylscott :问题一直在莫胖还想抢个选秀签的劫 不然万用包不至於 05/17 15:35
37F:→ wylscott :卖不掉 至少上一季也能卖一个 05/17 15:35
38F:推 bhmok :换成p币数到手软了 05/17 15:52
39F:推 bluesunflowe:小胖可以换的不只是万用包?以本季的表现看不觉得耶~ 05/17 15:53
40F:推 bhmok :在我火能不能打不重要 有爱不能打给你练到能打 小胖 05/17 15:59
41F:→ bhmok :不来吗 05/17 15:59
42F:推 follow :德隆还有20M*3 05/17 16:04
43F:推 adonisXD :有i林不好好用 换u胖有比较好吗 莫名 05/17 16:08
44F:推 thanos :月+半=胖 优 质 小 月半 05/17 16:10
45F:推 kerotamama :草莓在i火等小胖抱团!而且又离家乡近 i火一整个五 05/17 16:12
46F:→ kerotamama :门齐冠军在望惹! 05/17 16:12
47F:→ follow :半月板? Rose也是剩20M*3还比德隆稍便宜点 05/17 16:13
48F:推 watwmark :现在火箭应该不会想要DW8了...近2000万的薪水 05/17 16:24
49F:→ watwmark :今年因伤只打了65场,数据也不好看.明年要30岁 05/17 16:26
50F:→ kerotamama :既然交易日前想换 表示奇八莫胖不怎麽care薪资和脚 05/17 16:30
51F:→ kerotamama :伤吧?能送走万用包该谢天了=w= 05/17 16:30
52F:推 bluesunflowe:现在换小胖正在低点 换了之後就大爆发惹莫胖快上!!! 05/17 16:47
53F:→ bluesunflowe:而且i火不缺火力..缺明星PG来控球~~~痾..摸球? 05/17 16:48
54F:推 cth0204 :林奇蹟的开始 也是要感谢小胖 逃离深渊也要靠小胖噜? 05/17 17:04
55F:推 PTT0000 :我觉得小胖这个约反而更大更难交易耶!莫雷会想换吗 05/17 17:16
56F:→ PTT0000 :不过听说小胖跟草莓是好朋友,所以有希望?XD 05/17 17:16
57F:推 wylscott :8M*2的板凳不稀奇 各位观众 20M的运球过半场!! 05/17 17:22
58F:推 ddfg :这不是重点 lin能淘就好 管他多少!!! 05/17 17:51
59F:推 bowin :Yes, 块陶阿! 05/17 18:09
60F:推 phix :小胖很赞的 莫雷快找他过来 05/17 19:06
61F:推 ghostxx :看那精美的20M明星上场折返跑+一守二 05/17 19:26
62F:推 tseng1304 :小胖一来还怕我胡不交球权?奇八快抢! 05/18 01:51
63F:→ garnett05 :不太可能...篮网正在拼命留住原阵容 05/18 08:28
64F:推 ddfg :不管可不可能 火箭也不见得会买单 这季打得并不理想 05/18 10:19
65F:→ ddfg :却是事实 自然而然就有交易传闻 05/18 10:20
66F:推 ddfg :得看有没有第三巨头 OR 首轮签 05/18 10:39
67F:→ gm79227922 :三方交易比较有可能,不然D-WILL这记这麽烂,又这麽 05/18 16:14
68F:→ gm79227922 :贵,莫雷也不是笨蛋 05/18 16:14
69F:推 nch6710 :拜托换啊阿啊啊!!! 05/18 22:38
70F:推 turbomons :卸卸翻译 好消息 05/18 22:55
71F:推 bhmok :其实是篮网不适合小胖 来到我火就回春啦 不交易吗 05/19 20:56
72F:推 claire612 :我火最适合养伤惹 魔兽不就好好der 小胖不考虑下吗XD 05/20 13:22
73F:→ claire612 :D 05/20 13:22