作者scju (QQ)
看板Eng-Class
标题[请益] 论坛中,外国网友说的I don't believe...
时间Wed Jan 16 11:10:22 2019
各位好,请教一下
在论坛上看到有人贴出一则新闻,想探讨里面的say为何用现在式:
The tourists at the centre of a storm after leaving rubbish on Takapuna Beach
and abusing a local woman have spoken exclusively to the Herald.
Among their counter-claims, they say one of their children was assaulted at
the beach and denied fleeing restaurants without paying for their meals.
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网友Tdol回应:
You can use the present when narrating past events as a way of making the
story seem more lively, often switching from the present to the past, as the
person does here with "denied".
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网友jutfrank回应:
I'm not convinced that the change of tense within the sentence was completely
deliberate. I don't believe that the writer was trying to make the narrative
more lively. It may have been the result of a lack of attention.
I feel that the sentence would be improved by keeping the present tense for
the second verb phrase ("deny" instead of "denied").
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看到jutfrank说的内容,我想:把原本应该是「过去式」改为「现在式」,
才会让叙述更生动,所以jutfrank说:
I don't believe that the writer was trying to make the narrative
more lively. It may have been the result of a lack of attention.
那这两句话应该是指,jutfrank认为作者并没有刻意要这样做,可能只是疏忽。
换句话说,我认为jutfrank言下之意是,把「过去式」改成「现在式」的举动
只是作者的无心。
所以我说:
So do you think the writer should have meant to write "said" instead of "say"?
但jutfrank回应:
No, I didn't mean that.
It's very common in this kind of journalism to use the present tense form of
the reporting verb "say". I was just entertaining the possibility that the
change from present to past in that sentence was not a completely conscious
decision.
这我就不理解了,为何jutfrank却是指把「现在式」改成「过去式」是无心?
他又补充:I meant that the change to the past tense could have been the result of a
lack of attention.
实在不太懂这逻辑,我就说:
Shouldn't the present tense make the narrative more lively? You didn't
believe that the writer was trying to make the narrative more lively. If the
writer was not trying to make the narrative more lively, he or she should
have used the past tense in all sentences, shouldn't he or she? If so, it was
the present tense that could have been the result of a lack of attention.
而他回:Never mind.
https://www.usingenglish.com/forum/threads/268001-Tenses-usage-in-news-reports
所以想请教,不晓得我哪边搞错了jutfrank的逻辑?
谢谢!
整理一下我的立论:
1.把原本应该是「过去式」改为「现在式」,会让叙述更生动。
2.jutfrank说,不相信作者是刻意要让叙述更生动,可能只是出自无心。
3.根据上述,不就是jutfrank认为那个现在式的say可能只是作者无意写出来的吗?
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※ 编辑: scju (111.248.150.145), 01/16/2019 11:11:47
1F:→ kaifrankwind: 因为jutfrank觉得say现在式就ok了啊… 01/16 12:01
2F:→ kaifrankwind: 所以他才觉得稍後的deny可以维持现在式就好 01/16 12:02
3F:→ kaifrankwind: 现在式的say是先出现的,所以是现在式要不要改,而 01/16 12:06
4F:→ kaifrankwind: 不是过去式要不要改 01/16 12:06
感谢K大,我回在後面的文章。
※ 编辑: scju (111.248.150.145), 01/16/2019 12:30:34