※ 引述《l10nel (小失)》之铭言： : ------ : 回覆： I think this is where you have to deal with the fact that living, spoken language doesn't always follow the rules. It would indeed be an unusual use of the progressive, but one could imagine a situation where a mother said to her child, "Bill, take your umbrella: it's raining soon" to mean "It is going to rain." In that case, the native ear would hear it is a kind of emphasis, a shortened version of "It is going to be raining soon." : Depending on the rules you have been given, I think I'd vote for Option A : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : below. The sentence is not obviously correct grammar, and would probably : never be used formally in writing. Hence I'm uncomfortable with Option C. : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : But it isn't exactly incorrect either. It could make sense in the precise : context I have mentioned. : I did not mean option "B" at all, the one where there is a place in which : rain falls according to schedule. (Although such a place might be very : interesting.) : Would I put it on a national test? No, I wouldn't. There is just enough : ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : ambiguity here to make it a question where people who know the language : ^^^^^^^^^ : backwards and forwards might disagree. Do you have a category distinguishing being "informal, or colloquial language" and "formal language"? Remember, linguistic grammar is NEVER prescriptive. If native speakers say something and it is understood, it is not "incorrect". It's another thing to say something would work in "Standard Written English." Make sense? : This is all very fascinating! : ========================================================== : 2) Dr Luke Prodromou : 去文： : Hello, : Would it be possible to ask Dr Luke Prodromou, the author of Smash, on a : sentence I found in the Smash 2 grammar worksheets, here: : http://www.macmillanenglish.com/uploadedFiles/Catalogue/Teenage/Smash/Level_2/Smash%20Grammar%202.pdf : At the bottom of page 22: : But we can’t use the present continuous when we are talking about things : that we think will happen, : It is going to rain soon. (not: It is raining soon.) : My question is: Is the sentence that is stricken out here, "It is raining : soon.", considered incorrect or merely informal by Dr Prodromou (and by : teachers of English grammar in general)? For the sake of clarity, incorrect : usages should be avoided on all occasions because they don't follow : grammatical rules of standard English. Informal usages, on the other hand, : are not incorrect and can be used in informal situations, such as in a casual : conversation between friends. : Regards, : ------ : 回覆： : Hello ------ : I have asked the author Dr Prodromou your question. Please see his response : below. Regards. : "The sentence 'It's raining soon' , in British English, at least, is : incorrect; It is not acceptable even in an informal context, if one wishes to : ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ : conform to British Standard English. There may be varieties of English, : including L2 English varieties, where it might be acceptable but I don't know : of any." → l10nel:mw4m:你的确需要弄懂perfectly fine. 和 perfectly fine後 02/21 05:08 → l10nel:接to appear in a scholastic ability test，两者意思 02/21 05:09 → l10nel:大有不同，自己误解、断章取义却口出恶言骂人，实在不妥。 02/21 05:11 我有写appear......' ，表示後面还有点点点，为什麽我这样是断章取义？真的 像paulchi大讲得一样，你是不是应该学会看懂别人的话？还是每个人都必须反覆讲几次 你才看得懂？我断章取义？那你没有吗？你划线的地方才是重点？其他部分就不是重点？ 重点是你说得才对，你就不是断章取义？ 我没有骂人我用问号。 → l10nel:另外，Prodromou所指的可能存在，是因他自己是专精於标准 02/21 05:42 → l10nel:英式英语教学，故不能否认在标准L1英式英语之外的各种可 02/21 05:42 → l10nel:能性。然他最後说，自己并没听过有哪种英语里会接受这句 02/21 05:42 → l10nel:子的。这是间接暗示：「如果这句话被哪种英语接受，包含 02/21 05:42 → l10nel:L1美式标准英语和各式各样的L2英语，我会感到惊讶。」学 02/21 05:43 → l10nel:者谦虚、不夸饰而有涵养的回应，却被你拆解得支离破碎。 02/21 05:43 → l10nel:请你也一样先了解何为L2 English再来断章取义不急。 02/21 05:43 我今天又去问老师，我把这讨论列印给老师看，很讶异老师居然也有上英文板。 他说第二位教授是讲如果你要确认标准的英式英语，It's raining soon 的确是不正确，在不正式的语境下也不被接受。但有可能是英语的变体，这变体包含了 (但不仅限於)第二语言为英语的变体(因为这里用的是非限定用法)，这是有可能被 接受的，因而我并无法掌握任何的可能。 根本不是你讲得什麽间接暗示，这是我问老师的，可以在北一女任教的老师不会差吧。不 要以为考生都是呆瓜。 还有这讨论只有你在辩论It's raining soon是文法错，没有人说它文法百分百正确， 也没人说它或相信它出在考题是perfectly fine。 信还这样写，结果回覆有 全如你意吗？ 不是只有你划线的地方才是重点。第一位教授的第一段(I think…)与最後一段 (Do you have…)也是重点回话。英语文章第一段与最後一段也算重点段落，这是我 高中生也知道的常识。 可以不要把别人当笨蛋好吗？ ※ 编辑: nw4m 来自: 119.14.54.39 (02/22 00:54)