作者tengharold (RoadMan_A)
看板Eng-Class
标题Re: [请益] 几个疑问..
时间Sat Oct 29 01:20:38 2011
※ 引述《Cadi ( )》之铭言:
: 有几个疑问想请大家帮忙... (总共有八个问题。)
: 1. (前文提到,现代父母对於到底该不该叫孩子做家事,感到犹豫不决,
: 而这种态度源自多种深层的原因,其中之一便是时间压力。)
: The sources of our ambivalence about chores are varied and deep.
: Some of the mixed feelings come from simple time pressure.
: I once spoke at a school where the paretns, only slightly exaggerating,
: told me that their children had so much homework each night that
: they had to start in immmediately after arriving home from school.
: The mothers served the children dinner on a tray
: so they could keep working while they ate.
: The children worked until late in the evening.
: < Before bed the mothers would dip the children in the bathtub >,
: slip them into their pajamas, and tell them to hurry and get to sleep
: so that they would be rested for school the next day.
: In the morning they would wake the sleepy little children
: and help them get dressed.
: No time for everyday chores for these young scholars.
: 请问,这里的 dip 有夸饰的成分吗?(好像浸一下就提起来那种感觉)
: 还是纯粹是叙述让小孩很短暂的泡一下澡就起来呢?
这一整段的叙述都在强调"赶时间"
如 dinner on a tray, dip, slip, hurry and get to sleep
所以严格上来说 dip 是夸饰 (又不是烫青菜哪能过一下水就起锅的)
但这是为了在阅读时读者得以理解整段中那种"赶、赶、赶"的意境
: 2. (前文提到,有些爸妈不想叫孩子做家事的心态其实比较不健康,
: 他们因为觉得寂寞或没有安全感,因此一直唠叨孩子,
: 希望能用这样子的方式跟孩子继续保持紧密的关系。)
: Paradoxically, effective parenting can cause parental separation anxiety.
: If we really expect and demand that children take responsibility,
: we may no longer need to nag them.
: But if we are suffering from a sense of loneliness in marriage or
: feelings of insecurity in our fragmented world, we may unconsciously
: seek the involvement and intimate connection with our children that
: nagging and reminding bring.
: And there's yet another hidden advantage to having irresponsible children--
: < if we keep them dependent on us we won't have to face our own mortality >.
: We'll always be a helpless someone's mommy or daddy.
: 请问,这里的 our own mortality 应单纯是 "自己的生命终将殒灭",
: 还是应该引申为 "孩子终有一天不再需要我们" 呢?
可以折衷译为"自己终将老去"
: (虽然 mortality 的各种字义里似乎并没有第二种意思...)
: 3. 前文提到,现代的家长把小孩保护得太好,导致他们欠缺生活能力;
: 有位美术老师说自己在带小二生用纸浆做雕塑时:
: The children need to pour water from a large pitcher into a bowl.
: None of the kids volunteered to do the pouring.
: "Do you guys know how to pour?" Have you ever done it before?" I asked.
: It turned out that none of them had! It's so modern.
: They can't pour, but I'll bet they all knew how to load software
: on the computer by the time they were in kindergarten.
: 请问,这里的 it's so modern 是指 "这真的是只有在这个时代才会发生的事" 吗?
这真是个现代才会有的问题
: 4. 前文提到,现代家长虽然会找很多理由让孩子不用做家事
: (譬如他们课业很重,我自己做比较快等等),
: 但其实他们内心也知道做家事对孩子是有好处的。
: Once you are convinced of the genuine value of household chores,
: you can shed your guilt and ambivalence and assign table-clearing and
: pot-washing duties confidently. In our hearts, of course, we know that
: chores are good for us.
: I recall a conversation in one of my parenting classes that brought to light
: < just how hungry mothers are for meaningful chores to give their kids >.
: 这句我我总觉得看起来文法怪怪的... 有人可以告诉我类似的例句吗? o_O
: 请问这是是 "母亲有多麽渴望让孩子做有意义的家事" 吗?
: 为什麽不讲
: how hungry mothers are to give their kids meaningful chores 呢?
: (还是说...这样讲不对?)
如果很吹毛求疵的话,你的不对。母亲渴望的不是"要给孩子有意义的家事"这件事
渴望的是"有意义的家事",有了有意义的家事再把它给孩子
原文不言而喻的是母亲不知道哪些家事是有意义的
(母亲:拖地板会培养甚麽特质? 叫孩子洗碗如果打破碗会不会反而给孩子挫折感?)
你的说法变成了母亲没家事可作(家里请菲佣),甚至没孩子可给家事(孩子不回家)
但其实整段文章看下来,你的改写也还好,其实不应该会被误解。
: 5. 作者解释该如何选择让孩子做哪些家事。
: When it comes to assigning tasks, a major stumbling block for parents
: is lack of basic knowledge about which chores should begin when.
: Because we don't live with an extended family of seasoned parents
: to provide child-rearing advice, we may be unsure about what is appropriate
: to expect from our children. And because the world is changing so quickly,
: the old rules may not apply. You can't send a six-year-old to the market
: by herself to pick up some bread and milk anymore, but you can teach her
: how to sweep the kitchen floor, and put away her clean clothes.
: Children learn responsibility in phases. The important thing is that
: your child continue to add more tasks as the years go by.
: In general, children start with self-care, which includes toileting [...]
: (接下来举各种例子,包括四岁可以自己洗手、刷牙,浇花、擦桌子,
: 五岁可以收玩具,整理床铺,把脏衣服放进洗衣篮,
: 再大一点的孩子可以帮忙摆碗筷、收碗筷等等。)
: The next stage is care for the family and the household. Here your child
: contributes to the smooth running of the ship by helping to set and clear
: the table, bandaging a sister's skinned knee. Older children and teenagers
: graduate to cooking, washing the car, and earning their own spending money.
: < The family is the little laboratory for what Judaism sees
: as the most mature stage of responsibility,
: where we treat our community as family, give charity,
: and provide service to others. >
: 请问,这里的 mature stage 是什麽意思?
: 理解为成熟的时期/阶段似乎不对,
: 如果试着把 stage 解释为舞台之类的意思.. 好像还是不对...
犹太教认为家庭是给孩子实习(原文为"实验"但这样翻不合中文习惯)如何负起大人的
责任的一个实验室,孩子可从家中学习如何爱邻如亲、如何做善事、以及如何提供
服务于他人。
大概酱~文笔自己修
: 6. 前文提到,有些孩子脾气较拗执、难以管教,
: 而该惩罚的时候虽然还是要惩罚,但是手段应该温和。
: In Jewish philosophy, there are two basic views about how to
: motivate children to take responsibility. One is that chronic noncompliance
: requires strong discipline. It is said that Rabbi Joshua told his students,
: "The child may be compared to a heifer
: -- if he is not taught to plow when young, it will be difficult for
: him to do so in the end;
: or to a wine branch
: -- if you do not bend it when it is full of sap, once it hardens,
: you can do nothing with it."
: How do we teach and bend? In Proverbs we read several versions of
: "spare the rod and spoil the child": "For he whom God lovs God admonishes",
: and "Correct your child and he well provide you rest".
: But Torah teaches us to administer discipline with a light hand.
: The weight of Jewish tradition forbids humiliating, threatening,
: or physically harming a child and advises us to follow the example of God,
: who never punishes without previous warning and without telling the
: transgressor what to expect if he continues to misbehave.
: 请问,这里的 weight 是甚麽意思呢?我查遍字典都查不出符合的意思..
: *Torah是犹太律法书,内容是犹太人为人处事的守则。
weight 在此 = 倾向、多数 等意思
: 7. 前文提到,有个妈妈让孩子逐步参与家务,
: 包括把自己的书包、外套挂好,收拾碗筷等等。
: 但是这个孩子老是忘记吃完晚饭要收碗筷,不管怎麽提醒、怎麽威胁利诱都没用。
: 後来妈妈改成只要孩子把刀叉收到水槽冲一冲、再放到洗碗机里就好。
: This job appealed to Sara because of its start-to-finish nature,
: and she did without being reminded.
: 这里的 start-to-finish 同样是我怎麽查都查不出来符合的意思...
: 请问该怎麽解释呢?
一次搞定。
: 8. 作者表示,有数种方法能让孩子养成做家事的习惯,
: 其中一个是 give them what they need:
: Parents need to make sure that children are given whatever they need
: to perform their job, such as a carpet sweeper for a child who isn't
: yet ready for a vaccum. Also match your expectations with the moment.
: Most children are a "mixed multitude" all by themselves and
: you'll find them helpful and responsible one day or week
: and great sluggards the next.
: (这里的 mixed multitude 是取自圣经。
: 这个词原本是用来形容 摩西领着渡过红海、抵达应许之地的全部子民,
: 而这群人是由埃及社会里不同阶层的人民组成的,彼此的身世背景差异很大。)
: 请问,这里的 all by themselves 是什麽意思呢?
: 我只查得到 "靠自己" 和 "单独" 两种意思..
孩子自己一个人就可以像群众一样杂乱不一,今天乐於服务、明天不鞭不动
: 非常感谢!!
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Trying to make ends meet, You're a slave to money then you die
-Bittersweet Symphony, The Verve
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1F:推 Cadi:非常、非常感谢t大~ :) 10/29 15:28
2F:→ Cadi:(我终於懂了how hungry mother are for... 那一句了~) 10/29 15:30