作者denise7023 (to be what i want to be)
看板Eng-Class
标题[文法] 2/28期 Time杂志的一句话
时间Mon Feb 28 19:40:59 2011
请问一句话的文法:
Republicants must deliver the kind of deep reductions
they say were negligently absent from Obama's propsal.
(如果我的解释有问题,可以的话请推文告知,谢谢!!)
我的解释是:这句话明显的省略了关代,
可是我填不回去省略的位置。
希望有大大可以帮忙还原一下。
非常感谢^^
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1F:推 BBMak:把that或which填在reduction後面 02/28 19:44
2F:推 tver:the kind of deep reduction WHICH they say... 02/28 19:44
3F:→ denise7023:谢谢两位,可是我想要请问这边的that/which算是当主词 02/28 19:48
4F:→ denise7023:也可以省略吗?谢谢 02/28 19:49
5F:推 BBMak:当which/that取代主词时不能省略 02/28 20:12
6F:推 tver:对 02/28 20:13
7F:推 tver:sorry, 我说错了,BBMak大说的才对 02/28 20:15
8F:→ denise7023:我的认知这边的关代是当主词,有错误吗? 02/28 20:22
9F:推 tver:这里的确是当主词。原句:(1)Republicans must deliver the 02/28 20:26
10F:→ tver:kind of reduction. (2)The reduction were neligently 02/28 20:27
11F:→ tver:absent from Obama's proposal. 原本关代是不该省略的,只 02/28 20:27
12F:→ tver:因又再插入了"they say",所以省略掉了。 02/28 20:28
13F:推 pptuser:楼上说的不对哦,2) 应该是 they say the reduction were. 02/28 23:43
14F:→ pptuser:这句which (that)省不省略都可以。这里的关代同时也是後面 02/28 23:44
15F:→ pptuser:形容词子句(they say the reduction..)中的that 子句的主. 02/28 23:45
16F:→ pptuser:词 02/28 23:45
17F:→ pptuser:例如,这是我希望能够帮助你的提议. This is the offer.. 02/28 23:47
18F:→ pptuser:which I hope will will help you. 02/28 23:48
19F:→ pptuser:原句 2) i hope the offer will help you. 02/28 23:48
20F:→ pptuser:更正:will一个就好 02/28 23:49
21F:→ pptuser:原po会看不出来,是因为从子句主词的位置拿掉,你和前面.. 02/28 23:49
22F:→ pptuser:分离不出来子句的关系而搞混了 02/28 23:50
23F:→ pptuser:民主党必须实现他们宣称欧巴马提案所忽略的减免。 02/28 23:59
24F:→ dunchee:reduction-> reductions neligently->negligently 03/01 00:13
25F:→ dunchee:"省略"的关代是主词("they say"只是插入语),技术性上来说 03/01 00:15
26F:→ dunchee:那个that(/which)不该省略(... reductions that they say 03/01 00:16
27F:→ dunchee:.....),但是这种写法也有(简单说,这是习惯用法,稍微解 03/01 00:16
28F:→ dunchee:释一下的话是因为中间插入一些字的关系造成的误判,然後就 03/01 00:17
29F:→ dunchee:习惯成自然) 我好像有整理过,我找找.... 03/01 00:17
30F:推 pptuser:这里的that (which)该不该省略,我也忘了是否有什麽前置条 03/01 00:19
31F:→ dunchee: dunchee.blogspot.com/2008/07/blog-post_8409.html 03/01 00:19
32F:→ pptuser:件,反正口语中这很常见,不加关代,也不加that子句的that 03/01 00:19
33F:→ pptuser:d大所谓的they say是插入语是说 , they say, 吗? 03/01 00:21
※ 编辑: denise7023 来自: 219.70.190.40 (03/01 00:26)
34F:推 pptuser:This is the girl we believe is pregnent. 原po弄混就是 03/01 00:26
35F:→ pptuser:believe is怎麽会两个动词连在一起? 03/01 00:26
36F:→ pptuser:1) This is the girl 2) We believe the girl is pregnant 03/01 00:27
37F:→ denise7023:谢谢以上各位的推文,我正在慢慢阅读中... 03/01 00:28
38F:→ denise7023:也谢谢d大的指证关於拼字错误。 03/01 00:28
39F:推 heziying:which不行 要用that jsyk~ 03/01 07:46
40F:推 pptuser:楼上是说reduction後的which吗? 我想不出为什麽不能用that 03/01 08:20
41F:→ pptuser:不确定时,全部省略就最保险了 03/01 08:20
42F:→ heziying:恩 在reductions後不能用which 因为reductions前面有the 03/01 09:56
43F:推 pptuser:楼上有没有记错,我google的答案是只能用that的情况是 03/01 10:03
44F:→ pptuser:1) 先行词同时人与物 2)先行词有最高级adj 3) 先行词有序 03/01 10:03
45F:→ pptuser:数 the only/the same/xxxxthing 4)由wh开头的疑问句 03/01 10:04
46F:→ pptuser:3) 的xxxxthing 改成 no any all every 之类的 03/01 10:06
47F:推 heziying:重点是the *kind* of reductions that (do xx) 就不能用 03/01 12:27
48F:→ heziying:which 有the跟kind...that的短语就不能改成which 03/01 12:28