作者waggy ( )
看板Eng-Class
标题Re: [求译] 历史课文的英翻中
时间Tue Oct 26 22:53:49 2010
※ 引述《tengharold (RoadMan_A)》之铭言:
: ※ 引述《MKMK (PGPG)》之铭言:
: [抱歉啃掉]
: : What is one to make of an era fixated on the perfect body and mind?
: : 我的试译:如何去了解一个迷恋完美身躯和人格的时代?(其实是同学翻的XD)
: : 我不太能够确定到底是不是这个意思
: 可以,但mind未必是"人格",我认为较偏向智慧、头脑类的东西
: (但这也得看context)
: : 第二个是蛮长的一句句子:
: : So if we want to drop this term("free will") altogether, which would be the
: : safest and most Christian thing to do, we may, still in good faith, teach
: : people to use it to credit man with 'free will' in respect not of what is
: : above him, but what is below him.
: : 我的试译:如果我们想要...(这个我猜是「把自由意志的问题弄清楚」)而这个...会是最
: to drop sth. = 抛弃 sth. 所以这里是说要抛弃"自由意志"这个名词...
: : 安全、最符合基督信仰的事,我们将会仍然保持完整的信心去教导人们用完整的信心去使
: to do sth. in good faith = 诚心/无恶意的去做sth.
: we may... teach people to use it [这个it是free will这个名词] to credit man...
: 我们仍可以教导人们用这个词来获得"自由意志"的概念,不是为升天,而是为了不墬入
: 地狱。
: 上面这一段没看过前後语其实翻的还蛮心虚的...
: : 人们相信与他们的自由意志有关的不是上面的天堂上帝,而是下面的地狱撒旦。
: : 提问:drop...altogether的意思;teach people to use it的it是指good faith吗?
: : credit ... with 在这里该怎麽解释才会比较合乎文章的意思?
: : 我对第二个的试译看起来就很怪
: 这是因为没看全文,无法了解Martin Luther的文中脉络
: : 有没有人熟悉这个的作者(马丁路德),他到底是要表达什麽意思咧?
: 哲学板可能有人吧...
马丁路德是德国宗教改格家 简单的说他影响了新教的创立
详细内容有兴趣可以google一下
着作标题是"Bondage of the Will" 讲的是自由意志
全文请见:
http://www.reformedreader.org/bow.htm
下面这段内容接在原po问的文章"....but what is below him."之後:
That is to say, man should realize that in regard to his money and
possessions he has a right to use them, to do or to leave undone, according
to his own "free-will" - though that very "free-will" is overruled by the
free-will of God alone, according to His own pleasure. However, with regard
to God, and in all that bears on salvation or damnation, he has no
"free-will", but is a captive, prisoner and bondslave, either to the will of
God, or to the will of Satan.
我自己是觉得above him是指上帝
below him指的是人所管辖东西 或者可以说有形的财产
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1F:推 MKMK:喔 也非常谢谢你! 10/26 23:14
2F:推 tengharold:w大的解释也很有可能 10/27 00:38