作者anijen (Yu#11/Hammy#32)
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标题[外电] 田中欠达尔一个人情
时间Thu Jan 23 16:53:17 2014
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MLB.com : Tanaka owes Darvish a debt of gratitude
A seven-year, $155 million commitment is not just big in Japan but big
anywhere, and the Yankees' willingness to make that commitment to Masahiro
Tanaka was the result of a perfect storm -- a feeble free-agent market, a
desperate Bronx squad burned by 2013's frustrations and, yes, most of Alex
Rodriguez's $25 million salary coming off the books for '14.
But while Tanaka owes an "arigatou" to all of the above, his most heartfelt
thank you ought to go to Yu Darvish.
7/155M的大约-不是日本型的大约,是世界型。
为什麽洋基愿意付这样大的约? 原因:今年鸟市场/2013年的挫败/大部分的-谢谢A-Rod
上面种种因素田中都要说声"阿里嘎多"
但最重要的是像某人表达衷心感谢-Yu Darvish.
Contrary to the comparisons that naturally cropped up as Tanaka made his
foray into free agency, these are two fundamentally different pitchers. If
we're going to liken Tanaka to Darvish merely because they're both from
Japan, we might as well mentally connect Justin Verlander and Joe Saunders
because they're both from Virginia.
不可避免的田中跟达比修会不断被比较,如果你非得把田中跟达比修做比较
就因为他们都从日本来的,那应该也会把Justin Verlander和 Joe Saunders做比较
因为他们都从维吉尼亚州来的。
Place of birth really doesn't add much depth to the discussion.
What allowed Darvish to make a nearly instantaneous leap from unproven
pitcher to Cy Young contender was the vast array of his arsenal, which fed
off a fastball that averaged 93.5 mph last season, according to FanGraphs.
Darvish also benefitted from the mixed heritage and multicultural upbringing
that helped him settle somewhat seamlessly into American life.
到底是什麽让达比修从一个没证明过自己的一个投手一跃变成一个赛扬竞争者?
根据 FanGraphs达比修均速为93.5mph,身为一个多元文化家庭长大的小孩
多少帮助他在美国适应生活。
Tanaka, on the other hand, is cut more from the cloth that gave us Daisuke
Matsuzaka, Kei Igawa and Hideki Irabu. Not that he'll be anywhere near as big
of a bust as those guys (he's slightly younger, for one, and we'd like to
believe the scouting associated with this signing is a little more
sophisticated than it was then), but he more closely fits that "traditional"
Japanese mold.
田中,这方面比较像松坂大辅、井川庆、伊良部等..。
不是说他会跟他们一样表现不好(根据球探报告),只是他比较符合一般日本人的印象。
In terms of stuff, a good comparable for Tanaka might be Hisashi Iwakuma, who
obviously just had a monster season for the Mariners. Iwakuma averaged 90.3
mph with his fastball last season, almost precisely the same mark that Tanaka
averaged in Nippon Professional Baseball (90.7, per Patrick Newman of NPB
Tracker) in 2012. As Iwakuma has (and countless others have) demonstrated,
you can survive and thrive with savvy and command and deception over raw
stuff.
stuff方面比较像岩隈久志,去年岩隈的均速90.3mph,岩隈也同时证明,
好的command可以生存的。
But the question of whether Tanaka will thrive at a level worthy of this kind
of money over this length of time is a legitimate one.
问题是,田中是可成长到拿到这种长度跟$的约吗?
What is unquestionable is that Tanaka wouldn't have engendered that kind of
commitment if Darvish hadn't set such an incredible precedent. It was the
Darvish deal made by the Rangers (a record $51.7 million posting fee to
Darvish's former team, plus a $56 million guarantee to Darvish himself) that
helped prompt Pirates president Frank Coonelly to speak up at an Owners'
Meetings general session last November about the unfairness of the posting
system, as it pertains to MLB's small-market clubs.
毫无疑问的是如果达比修没有去年那种鬼神表现,田中将不可能拿到这种大约。
就因为达比修当年51.7高额入札金,所以去年11月海盗队的总裁Frank Coonelly
在Owners' Meetings general session提出说对小市场球队超不公平的说法。
The posting fees, after all, were paid directly to NPB teams and, therefore,
were not subject to MLB's luxury tax, and the Darvish deal demonstrated just
how outlandish those fees could get for top talent in today's marketplace.
Coonelly initiated the change we saw this winter, to a system in which the
posting fees were limited to $20 million so that a far more substantial sum
of the investment goes to the player, and, hence, is taxable.
入札金是给日本球团的,还可不列入豪华税,达比修的合约很清楚地展示
一个顶级天分的球员在市场上的价值,结果海盗总裁的提议也因此改变今年冬天的入札金
制度,改成上限为20M,结果大量的金额流入球员口袋(要列税罗)
That, of course, is how Tanaka was able to operate more like a stateside free
agent and why he was able to negotiate a contract that guarantees him $99
million more than Darvish, who, again, very well might be the superior
pitcher.
结果当然就是田中拿到一堆现金还可以跟多队协商之後的合约
竟比达比修多了99M(我必须再说一次-达比修,比较优秀)
Free agency, like so much of life, is all about timing and context.
More to the point, it was Darvish's success in Texas that prompted the
Yankees to be so willing to venture down this road again. Because, remember,
they were extremely cautious and careful in their dealings with Yu. Brian
Cashman still had the scars from getting burned by Igawa, and he was
reluctant to take on the riverboat gambler mentality one must possess in
assigning Cy Young-like dollars to a pitcher whose tangible, transitional
value is so vague. The Yanks did bid on Darvish, as did most teams in MLB,
but they did so half-heartedly and without any expectation that they would be
finalists for his services.
重点就是,达比修的成功让洋基愿意再对日籍投手恢复信心,因为,请记得
他们当年可是对於达比修可是极度小心关切并提防。
现金人对於井川庆的教训仍耿耿於怀,根本不敢豪掷一个赛扬等级$$在一个
转换联盟不确定能否成功的球员身上。
洋基是有对达比修出喊价啦-跟其他队也一样,不是志在必得的,
对於能否跟达比修进入协商阶段也是不期不待心情下完成入札程序。
Flash forward two years, and there had to be regret on the part of Cashman
and Co. for that tact. Their rotation had splintered and was in clear need of
repair. Already, there are questions and concerns over what the future holds
for CC Sabathia, who, like so many before him, will have to learn how to do
more with less, now that his velocity has declined. And certainly, there are
questions about how much a 38-year-old Hiroki Kuroda has left in the tank
after his fade the last two months of 2013, or what Ivan Nova and Michael
Pineda can reasonably be counted on to contribute.
2年时光匆匆,现金人跟他的团队应该是後悔了,他们现在的轮值急需补救,
沙巴西亚-球速下降;黑田老当益壮但2013最後2个月..;Ivan Nova and Michael Pineda
应该是仍可依靠的....。
Tanaka, therefore, became a must-have commodity for the Yankees, who,
contrary to any since-abandoned stance about staying under the luxury tax,
are perpetually in win-now mode. Ironically (or, perhaps, intentionally),
they wound up, between the posting fee and contract, doling out the same
amount of money and years here as they had offered to star second baseman
Robinson Cano earlier this winter.
於是田中就变成洋基非得补到的一位,正处於win-mode模式的洋基,
讽刺的,这合约跟端给冬天离去的2垒手Cano是一样的。
This signing does not patch all the Yanks' holes. Despite a staggering $465
million in commitments this winter, they still don't have a settled infield
at second and third base, and they still don't know precisely what the closer
role will look like in the wake of the Mariano Rivera era.
但这签约後仍未补足球队所有的洞,内野的2/3垒实在不是很明确要找谁,
MO退休後的终结者角色也是。
But because of the pure optimism that arrives with Tanaka, there is a lot
more reason to believe in the Yankees' ability to contend today than there
was yesterday. Maybe that optimism is misguided, for there is plenty of
historical precedent in play here to suggest as much, but the scouts will
tell you that Tanaka does have the fastball-splitter-slider mix and the
competitive mental mindset to be a success at this level. We'll soon find out
if they're right and if Tanaka will present as positive an impact to the
Yanks' rotation as Darvish has presented to the Rangers' rotation.
但因为对於田中来临一面倒的大乐观,还是有理由相信今日洋基比昨日更好。
也有机率这乐观是被误导的,因为不知道有多少选手来之前都被讲的有多好一样。
不过根据球探说田中可以投速球-指叉-滑球混搭,还有投手丘上的坚强心志,
马上就可以验证他对於洋基是否能跟达比修带给游骑兵一样的冲击。
Make no mistake, though: Tanaka does not have a great deal in common with
Darvish -- not in stuff and, now, not in salary.
恩没有错的话,田中的约看起来不像达比修那样好,本来是只有stuff差距,
现在还多了薪水。
The only relation between the two is place of birth and the "arigatou" owed
from one to the other.
现在这二位的关系仅剩 1.-同为日本出生 2.-其中一位欠另一位一句"阿里嘎多"。
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http://ppt.cc/hSpQ
SI.com : Better than Yu? Mixed reviews for Masahiro Tanaka, newest Yankee.
比达尔优?
http://ppt.cc/dE7o
ESPN DALLAS: Yu Darvish looks like a bigger bargain now
达尔约看起来又更像抢劫了
http://ppt.cc/mt4E
Dallas news :Masahiro Tanaka to New York Yankees, will make $99M more than Yu
Darvish
田中将到-洋基,比达比修多领99M
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MLB热门球队乡民讨论区 关於田中约 (达尔绝对会讨论中)
1.条子 http://ppt.cc/n1Ta
Masahiro Tanaka to Yankees for 7 years, $155 million
(乡民A : 现在要马上给达尔续延长合约)
(乡民B : 2年前到底是谁说GM JD为什麽还有工作 ?)
(乡民C : 超怕达尔进入自由市场 条子应该签不下来)
2.水手 http://ppt.cc/PuyS
Yankees sign Masahiro Tanaka to 7 year, $155 million deal
3.红袜 http://ppt.cc/8BbW
Yankees sign Masahiro Tanaka to 7-year, $155 million contract
4.巨人 http://ppt.cc/jhsS
Masahiro Tanaka doesn't sign with Dodgers
5.小蛇 http://ppt.cc/n0ad
No Tanaka for Diamondbacks: Yankees win
6.小熊 http://ppt.cc/wa65
Masahiro Tanaka Signs With Yankees
7.大都会 http://ppt.cc/oTgv
International Free Agent Profile 2014: Masahiro Tanaka
8.蓝鸟 http://ppt.cc/szFh
New York Yankees sign Masahiro Tanaka to a seven-year, $155 million contract
9.洋基 http://www.pinstripealley.com/
随便瞄一下 有在追田中名单内大部分球迷是庆幸自家球队没跟,
小熊球迷怎麽想就不知道了..
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