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标题[情报] 阿布本月初曾出现中毒症状
时间Tue Mar 29 00:33:37 2022
https://www.wsj.com/articles/roman-abramovich-and-ukrainian-peace
-negotiators-suffer-symptoms-of-suspected-poisoning-11648480493
Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian Peace Negotiators Suffer Suspected Poisoning
By Yaroslav Trofimov and Max Colchester - Updated March 28, 2022 11:56 am ET
Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian peace negotiators suffered
symptoms of suspected poisoning after a meeting in Kyiv earlier this
month, people familiar with the matter said.
阿布本月初在基辅担任和平掮客时,和乌克兰人员一起出现中毒症状。
Following the meeting in the Ukrainian capital, Mr. Abramovich, who has
shuttled between Moscow, Lviv and other negotiating venues, as well as at
least two senior members of the Ukrainian team developed symptoms that
included red eyes, constant and painful tearing, and peeling skin on their
faces and hands, the people said.
They blamed the suspected attack on hard-liners in Moscow who they said
wanted to sabotage talks to end the war. A person close to Mr. Abramovich
said it wasn't clear who had targeted the group.
俄罗斯方面当然有重大嫌疑,但阿布这边的人说不清楚下毒的人是谁。
Mr. Abramovich and the Ukrainian negotiators, who include Crimean Tatar
lawmaker Rustem Umerov, have since improved and their lives aren't in
danger, the people said. Ukraine's president, Volodymyr Zelensky, who has
met with Mr. Abramovich, wasn't affected, they said. Mr. Zelensky's
spokesman said he had no information about any suspected poisoning.
阿布和乌方的人後来症状减缓,没有生命危险。跟阿布见过面的乌克兰总统泽伦斯基
则没有受到影响,也不知道下毒的资讯。
Western experts who looked into the incident said it was hard to determine
whether the symptoms were caused by a chemical or biological agent or by
some sort of electromagnetic-radiation attack, the people familiar with
the matter said.
西方专家说很难判断下毒的方式。
The Kremlin didn't immediately respond to a request for comment about the
suspected poisoning.
克林姆林宫没有立即回应。
The investigation was organized by Christo Grozev, an investigator with
the Bellingcat open-source collective who concluded that a Kremlin team
poisoned Russian opposition politician Alexei Navalny with a nerve agent
in 2020. Mr. Grozev said that he saw the images of the effects of the
attack on Mr. Abramovich and Ukrainian negotiators, but that a timely
sample collection couldn't be arranged in the western Ukrainian city of
Lviv, through which they were traveling, because these people were in a
hurry to travel to Istanbul.
因为与会人员赶着去伊斯坦堡,没法即时蒐集样本,所以调查专家也很难办。
By the time a German forensic team with the required know-how was able to
perform an examination, too much time had passed for the suspected poison
to be detected, he said. “It was not intended to kill, it was just a
warning,” Mr. Grozev said.
专家觉得这不是蓄意谋杀,只是个警告。
In 2018, Britain blamed Russia's intelligence services for a nerve-agent
attack on Sergei Skripal, a former Russian military officer who defected
to the United Kingdom, and his daughter Yulia. Both survived, as did a
British police officer hospitalized after contact with the poison. A
British woman later died after accidentally coming into contact with the
nerve agent. The Kremlin has denied any involvement in the Skripal
poisoning.
Mr. Abramovich, who has longstanding links to President Vladimir Putin,
became involved in attempts to end the war in Ukraine shortly after Moscow
launched the invasion on Feb. 24, people familiar with the matter said.
His efforts are sometimes in conjunction with and sometimes parallel to a
separate, official, negotiating track between Ukrainian and Russian
representatives, they said. The Kyiv meeting where the suspected poisoning
took place involved Mr. Abramovich, who is one of Russia's wealthiest
men, and members of the official Ukrainian negotiating team.
Mr. Zelensky has asked President Biden not to impose sanctions on Mr.
Abramovich, who owns a minority stake in the steel company Evraz PLC and
has Portuguese citizenship, because he is involved in the negotiations,
according to people familiar with the call. Mr. Abramovich, who also owns
the Chelsea soccer club, has been sanctioned by the U.K. and the European
Union.
Asked about Mr. Abramovich in an interview with independent Russian media
organizations on Sunday, Mr. Zelensky said he wouldn't comment on his
discussions with Mr. Biden. He said Mr. Abramovich was initially a member
of a subcommittee of the Russian negotiating team, and then tried to help
with humanitarian matters, particularly the evacuation of Ukrainian
civilians from the besieged city of Mariupol.
Mr. Abramovich was seen in Belarus in late February as initial, official
talks began between Kyiv and Moscow and has acted as a back channel for
talks with the Kremlin, personally meeting with Mr. Putin on Ukraine,
people familiar with the matter say. His role in the talks varies
regularly and he has tried to engage others, including former German
Chancellor Gerhard Schroder, those people said.
Despite the suspected poisoning, Mr. Abramovich has decided to remain
involved in the peace talks, a person close to him said. In the past week
he has traveled to Poland and Ukraine and traveled Monday to Istanbul,
this person said. People who have seen him recently say he has dedicated a
lot of time to mediating between the warring parties. Mr. Abramovich's
late mother was from Ukraine.
尽管疑似被下毒,但阿布仍坚持和平掮客的任务,过去一周他到过波兰和乌克兰,周
一又到了伊斯坦堡,知情人说他花了很多心力谋求和平。阿布的母亲是乌克兰人。
The talks have failed to gain much traction, as the war has ground to a
stalemate. Russia's offensive has stalled on a number of fronts. And
Ukraine, meanwhile, has lacked the resources to mount a significant
counterattack to regain occupied territory.
A new round of negotiations is set for Tuesday in Turkey, as negotiators
discuss both a potential political settlement to the war and immediate
humanitarian issues, such as the evacuation of civilians from cities under
bombardment and prisoner exchanges.
Mr. Zelensky has indicated that Ukraine is open to compromise, saying it
would be willing to maintain a neutral status if it receives binding
security guarantees from both the West and Moscow. He has ruled out
Moscow's demand to discuss demilitarization of the country. Any agreement
with Russia would have to be endorsed by a popular referendum held after
all Russian forces withdraw to the positions they held before Feb. 24, he
told Russian media on Sunday.
While the Kremlin says it is interested in pursuing a negotiated solution,
presenters on popular talk shows on Russian state TV have said in recent
days that any agreement with Mr. Zelensky would be a humiliation for
Russia and said that Ukraine should be absorbed into the Russian state.
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当我漫游在斯坦弗森林时,我看见了雀尔西,米尔斯的女儿,在傍晚初升的明月中,
在泰晤士河旁一处林地空间上翩然舞蹈。所有痛苦的记忆都离开了我,我像落入迷离
幻境中一般,因为雀尔西是伊露维塔儿女中最美的一位。她身上那袭蓝色的衣裳宛如
万里无云的晴空,她灰色的眼睛像是傍晚群星闪烁的天空;她的斗篷上绣着金色的花
朵,她的头发漆黑如暮色中的阴影。她的荣光与美好,就像树叶上的光芒,像是潺潺
流水,像是这迷离世界上方闪烁的繁星;她脸上有闪亮的光辉。
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1F:推 JLester: 唉 真的是疯子普丁 03/29 00:36
2F:推 trent427: 乾 不知道哪个下流的 阿布早日康复 03/29 00:45
https://twitter.com/bellingcat/status/1508463513013997580
下午11:18 · 2022年3月28日
Bellingcat can confirm that three members of the delegation attending the
peace talks between Ukraine and Russia on the night of 3 to 4 March 2022
experienced symptoms consistent with poisoning with chemical weapons. One
of victims was Russian entrepreneur Roman Abramovich.
https://twitter.com/shaunwalker7/status/1508471898929258496
下午11:51 · 2022年3月28日
A source with direct knowledge has just confirmed to me the WSJ/Bellingcat
reports that Abramovich suffered symptoms of poisoning. "Roman lost his
sight for several hours" and was treated in Turkey, the source said.
4F:推 a2156700: 这都是个啥啊 03/29 01:00
5F:推 mobilesuit: 目前已无大碍,应该是威吓居多。希望阿布之後一切平安 03/29 01:05
https://twitter.com/NickPurewal/status/1508492475224231939
上午1:13 · 2022年3月29日
Abramovich is understood to have made a full recovery and is aiming to
continue with efforts towards peace, which have included work on
humanitarian corridors and bringing other nations to talks
阿布已经康复,持续为和平而努力,包括争取人道走廊、争取其他国家来谈。
7F:推 kuanhung93: 苍老好多 03/29 02:49
8F:推 Drogba11: ... 普丁真他妈的离谱 03/29 03:03
9F:推 cloudcuckoo: 天哪QQ 03/29 04:35
10F:推 mobilesuit: 之前看到他过境伊斯坦堡的照片时整个心痛QQ 03/29 04:38
11F:→ faelone: 窝以为阿布这种等级的只吃自己准备的饮水食物 03/29 04:56
12F:推 DIO13579: 虽然即将成为前老板,还是希望他安好 03/29 05:38
13F:推 krai: 布丁真的垃圾… 03/29 07:50
14F:推 s310213: 帮阿布QQ 03/29 08:31
https://www.ettoday.net/news/20220329/2218064.htm
记者罗翊宬/综合报导 2022年03月29日 10:09
根据《路透社》,美国某不愿具名的官员於当地时间28日表示,以他所掌握的情
报显示,阿布拉莫维奇与乌克兰议员乌梅洛夫(Rustem Umerov)、另名乌克兰谈判
成员之所以会出现类似中毒的现象,是环境因素所导致,而非中毒。
https://www.reuters.com/world/intelligence-suggests-environmental-factor
-sickened-abramovich-ukrainian-2022-03-28/
自称乌克兰谈判小组的消息人士日前向《CNN》澄清,该起类似中毒事件的发生
地点在土耳其。另名乌克兰总统府不愿具名的消息人士则称类似中毒案件并非真实,
「而是又一个的假消息案例」。
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-28
-22/h_50c95266745d66a1a33eb838aab2f064
※ 编辑: JamesCaesar (111.249.133.238 台湾), 03/29/2022 12:08:58
15F:推 Drogba11: 阿布有露脸的影片 感觉还好 03/29 19:41
16F:推 fox391823: 为了和平协议最努力奔波的人 反到要遭受英国政府制裁 03/29 23:54
17F:→ fox391823: 这简直就是莫名奇妙 03/29 23:54
18F:推 mobilesuit: 路透社跟CNN这两条吃河蟹的意味太浓厚了 03/30 00:09