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http://yanksfansoxfan.typepad.com/ysfs/2007/09/pair-of-aces.html 看到大家提到对球队的贡献度 忽然想到这篇9/5的旧文章 文章出处--基袜迷讨论区 作者是袜迷 补翻译: ----- Wednesday, September 05, 2007 Pair of Aces 一对王牌 Josh Beckett and Chien-Ming Wang -- the undisputed aces of the rivalry and not surprisingly the focus of many a debate here at YFSF since the beginning of 2006 -- each won their 17th game yesterday. Wang did it in predictable fashion, allowing just eight baserunners in seven-plus innings, and wriggling out of jams via the double play. 北极和王--无疑是两队世仇阵营中的王牌,且不令人讶异地,自2006年起,两人在此部落 格中引出不少辩论的焦点,他俩在昨天同时拿下17胜。王以他一贯的球风拿下胜投,投七 局只让八名打者上垒,再藉由双杀解除危机。 Beckett, too, was characteristic, pitching the best game of any starter in the game last night, striking out seven in eight innings, limiting his hits and getting burned just once on a mistake pitch to Matt Stairs. For the record, here are their lines this season: 北极也是维持他投球的风格,昨晚的比赛又是一场好投,在八局内三振七人,压制住对方 打击,只投了个失投球被Matt Stairs灼到。 以下纪录为他们本季投球数据︰ Beckett: 17-6, 3.30 ERA, 1.15 WHIP, 165 K, 36 BB Wang: 17-6, 3.68 ERA, 1.27 WHIP, 87 K, 48 BB 北极︰17胜6败,自责分率3.30,每局被上垒率1.15,三振165次,保送36次。 王 ︰17胜6败,自责分率3.68,每局被上垒率1.27,三振87次 ,保送48次。 It was surprising -- at least, to me -- that Wang snuck into tying Beckett for the league lead in wins (going 10-2 in your last 13 starts will do it), but there he is. Back into the conversation. 令人惊讶的是--指对我个人来说--王竟然已经追上北极且和他并列胜投王(那是要在13 场先发中,成绩为10胜2败才能达到),但,他做到了!--言归正传。 The aces, perhaps as dissimilar as two pitchers can be -- the one cool and dispassionate, relying on the grounder and his defense; the other hotheaded and emotional, amping it up for the strikeout in key spots -- nevertheless have put up similar numbers this season, with Beckett's slightly better. The difference has been the role each has been called on to perform. 双王牌,两位截然不同的投球类型--一位沉着冷静,靠的是滚地球和他的防御力;另一 位容易激动且情绪化,在他投出关键三振时愈易见到他情绪的波动--即便如此,本球季 他俩却呈现出相仿的数据,北极稍微好一些。不同的是,他俩各自所被委派的任务。 Wang has carried his team. Aside from Pettitte, and even he only in the second half, the Yanks have not been able to rely on any of their other starting pitchers. Take away the ace, and the Yankee starters' line crumbles from bad to awful: 54-45, 4.77 ERA, 1.44 WHIP 37-39, 5.09 ERA, 1.49 WHIP 王偕着他的球队--先将派派排除在外,且他也只有在下半季(归位)--洋基没有另外可信 赖的先发投手。拿掉这张王牌,洋基的先发阵容会从"不好"崩落到"糟糕"︰ 54胜45败,自责分率4.77,每局被上垒率1.44 37胜39败,自责分率5.09,每局被上垒率1.49 Beckett, on the other hand, has had far less pressure in compiling his career-high win total (and his second-lowest ERA, a far more impressive feat, considering the division). Matsuzaka and Wakefield have been as good as expected, if not better, Schilling has been solid though not as much as we'd hoped, and the supporting cast of Gabbard, Lester, Tavarez and Buchholz have provided far more out of the five spot than any other comparable starter in the league. 反过来说北极,他正在没有压力的情况下为自己累积生涯高胜投的场数(考虑到分区的状 况,次低的自责分率是令人印象深刻的功绩之一)。松土反和蝴蝶表现的和预期一样好, 席琳的表现虽不如期待,但也算差强人意,後援投手部份则有Gabbard, Lester, Tavarez and Buchholz,他们五位所提供的支援远超过联盟中其他的先发投手群。 Consequently, removing Beckett from the Sox' rotation hurts them (obviously), but not as much: 70-44, 4.09 ERA, 1.28 WHIP 54-51, 4.29 ERA, 1.31 WHIP 因此若把北极移出投手轮值会伤到红袜(很明显),但不像洋基(若没王)伤的那麽重︰ 70胜44败,自责分率4.09,每局被上垒率1.28 54胜51败,自责分率4.29,每局被上垒率1.31 Given the choice between the two, I guess you could summarize it this way: Give Beckett a vote for Cy Young, but give Wang a vote for MVP. 若要在两人之间做选择,我推测你可能会做出总结的方向︰ 赛扬奖投北极,MVP投王。 ----- 分析的还蛮中肯 但...... 不愧是袜迷 最後一段还颇有私心的 ^^" --



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1F:→ lingon:Good analysis, but NYY's MVP vote will go to ARod... 09/12 03:01
2F:→ DK2s:牛棚不抖真好 不必辛苦为了明天的先发省牛棚 09/12 06:46
3F:推 soeasylai:MVP比CYA更有价值吧,能同年拿CYA和MVP的当年一定是强投 09/12 08:58
4F:推 ILuvDumpling:年度MVP通常不是投手的奖项.所以最後半句也是白讲啊 09/12 09:00
5F:→ songi:一般来说胜场贡献度投手是小於野手的 野手天天上班 09/12 11:16
6F:推 redleo:那有过投手拿mvp的吗?一百多年来... 09/12 11:20
7F:→ wildcat:OP #17701 ... 09/12 11:33
8F:推 flyfly34:楼楼上,有,http://tinyurl.com/7268r 1986 老克 09/12 11:43
9F:推 majorleague1:有投手拿过MVP,但是不多 因为普遍认为长期下来野手 09/12 13:10
10F:→ majorleague1:对比赛的贡献更大,而且投手也有赛扬奖了 09/12 13:11
11F:推 voracious:这篇还算中肯(以袜迷来讲) 分析的点还算精准 09/12 16:21
※ 编辑: dogmoon 来自: 125.232.139.74 (09/12 22:17)







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