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MLBTR 一篇概括性的评述,蛮全面的,摘要条列式地翻译一下(有错翻请指正) =========================================================================== Offseason Outlook: Atlanta Braves By Jeff Todd [October 28, 2013 at 7:48pm CST] http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/10/offseason-outlook-atlanta-braves.html After returning to the top of the NL East for the first time since their remarkable string of division titles ended in 2006, can the Braves defend their crown in 2014? Guaranteed Contracts * B.J. Upton, OF: $59.8MM through 2017 * Justin Upton, OF: $28.75MM through 2015 * Dan Uggla, 2B: $26MM through 2015 * Gerald Laird, C: $1.5MM through 2014 Arbitration Eligible Players (service time in parentheses) * Craig Kimbrel, RP (3.066): $7.25MM projected salary * Kris Medlen, SP (4.137): $5.9MM * Freddie Freeman, 1B (3.033): $4.9MM * Jason Heyward, OF (4.000): $4.5MM * Chris Johnson, 3B (3.144): $4.2MM * Mike Minor, SP (2.138): $3.5MM * Jonny Venters, RP (4.000): $2.3MM * Jordan Walden, RP (3.043): $1.5MM * Jordan Schafer, OF (3.121): $1MM * Elliot Johnson, IF/OF (3.028): $900k * Brandon Beachy, SP (3.014): $900k * Cristhian Martinez, RP (3.158): $800k * Paul Janish, IF (4.145): $725k * Ramiro Pena, IF (3.089): $600k Contract Options * Reed Johnson, OF: $1.6MM club option ($150k buyout) Free Agents * Luis Ayala, Scott Downs, Freddy Garcia, Tim Hudson, Kameron Loe, Paul Maholm, Brian McCann, Eric O'Flaherty * 2014 合约确定4人:42.2M、仲裁14人:38.975M(预测)、球队选择权1人:1.6M 预计总和 82.775M Boosting the Braves' hopes to repeat in 2014 -- and, perhaps, enjoy a lengthier post-season experience -- is quite an impressive slate of arbitration-eligible players. Of course, none of the club's outstanding, homegrown youngsters has yet to be locked up beyond the standard six years of control. Getting a conversation going with some of those talents could well stand high among Atlanta GM Frank Wren's winter priorities, though the Braves have failed to hand a new deal to any of their own players with less than five years of service time in Wren's six seasons at the helm. (Sifting through the many extension candidates, MLBTR's readers voted in favor of long-term deals for Kimbrel, Freeman, Minor, and Julio Teheran). As things stand, tendering contracts to all eligible players is projected to cost north of $35MM for 2014. And only Venters is a non-tender candidate among the players projected to be worth over $1MM. For a team whose opening day payroll has tended to land right around $90MM over the last several seasons, that represents a lot of cash. Though the team is committed to just four players (and one minimal buyout) for next season, that tacks on just over $42MM more. Filling out the rest of the roster with league minimum contracts could push the tab into the $80MM range. Unless the club is able to clear salary through trade or expand its budget, then, there will be relatively little excess available in the coming off-season. * Wren 在位的 6 年间,没有跟任何五年级以下的新秀谈成延长合约过 * 谈一拖拉库 Arb 是 Wren 这个冬天最忙碌的事 * MLBTR 读者票选该给长约的:Kimbrel、Freeman、Minor、Teheran (Heyward 表示..) * 2014 给仲裁续约球员预测约超过 35M,Venter 是可能不续约名单里唯一超过 1M 的 * 过去数年我们的 payroll 都在 90M 左右,绑约的跟仲裁的加一加大概 80M,除非有交 易清空间或老板加码,不然季後没什麽可以玩的空间 Fortunately for the Braves, while Wren has a less-than-perfect track record on big dollar contracts, his front office has proven adept at extracting value from "free-talent" players. Among them, Jordan Schafer, Anthony Varvaro, and David Carpenter combined to add over 2 WAR last year, and figure to challenge for important bench and pen roles in 2014. And ESPN's Keith Law notes (Insider link) that more such players are in the pipeline, explaining that bargain bin pickups Juan Jaime, James Hoyt, and Ian Thomas could all appear soon in the Atlanta pen or (in the case of Thomas) even the rotation. That group of players (Schafer excepted, of course) could have a major role in filling out the Atlanta bullpen next season. Kimbrel, Walden, and Luis Avilan seem sure bets to hold down their spots, while Varvaro and Carpenter should have every opportunity to do the same. Otherwise, last year's league-best pen (by ERA and FIP) is in flux, though that doesn't mean it lacks options. David Hale or Alex Wood could work in relief if they fail to earn a starting role (or remain stretched out in Triple-A). The club could bring back the excellent-but-injured Venters or O'Flaherty on a cheap deal. Or the above-noted free talent, perhaps joined by a new waiver wire claim or two, could battle with the club's other minor league pitching (such as Shae Simmons) to round out the corps. In any event, a substantial free agent guarantee seems relatively unlikely. * Wren 签大约的手气不太好,但从 waivers 捡人的眼光却不错。Schafer、Varvaro、 Carpenter 今年贡献了超过 2WAR 并且担起重要的替补及牛棚角色。我们口袋里还有 如 Juan Jaime、James Hoyt、Ian Thomas 可能也会在明年名单里看到他们 * 联盟最好的牛棚:Kimbrel、Walden、Avilan 应该还是可以表现得不错,Varvaro 跟 Carpenter 也是。David Hale 跟 Alex Wood 如果没有得到轮值位置,也会是不错的 选择(或待在3A) * Venters 跟 EOF 也是可以花点代价留下来。或是如同前面提到的 waivers 捡来的球 员跟小联盟新秀如 Shae Simmons 可能都能表现出一点竞争力。总之牛棚这环还没有 必要签个大约来补强 Likewise, as MLBTR's Steve Adams explained in his profile of Hudson, the rotation could be made up solely from in-house options. Minor, Teheran, and Medlen are all locks for a spot, and Beachy probably would be if his health were not at issue. As just noted, Wood and Hale could compete to start, and top prospects J.R. Graham and Sean Gilmartin could be ready to contribute in 2014. Beachy will presumably join the party at some point, depending upon his rehab progress. On the other hand, with veterans Hudson and Maholm hitting free agency, Wren has indicated that he is interested in adding some experience to the rotation. After all, the club considered making a move for Jake Peavy at the trade deadline and claimed Kyle Lohse off of revocable waivers, meaning that the organization was willing to take on significant future salary for a veteran arm. Looking ahead, a reunion with Hudson remains a distinct possibility, particularly since his ankle injury could limit his market. Maholm seems less likely to be brought back, while Freddy Garcia could return as a long man in the pen or as minor league starting depth. Another veteran such as Bronson Arroyo could also be a possibility, but given the options on hand, it seems unlikely that the Braves will stretch the budget for multiple years of such a low-upside option. While many fans have called for the team to add a pitcher at the top of the rotation -- with David Price, Max Scherzer, Homer Bailey, and Chris Sale among the hypothetical possibiilities -- it seems unlikely that the Braves could pull off such a deal without giving up arms that are already in the bigs. And that would probably be an inefficient tradeoff given the team's budget constraints. * 先发轮值应该可以让小朋友们搞定:Minor、Teheran、Medlen 能站稳轮值,Hale 跟 Wood 也能角逐。後面还有新秀 J.R. Graham 跟 Sean Gilmartin 可能也有机会在 2014 出线,Beachy 则要看复健的状况 * Wren 想要找个有经验的先发而且不排斥砸点钱,过去曾打过 Peavy 跟 Lohse 的主意 * 重签 Hudson 机会很高,Garcia 能扛长中继或是在小联盟当先发等机会,相对地签 Maholm 的机会因此较低 * Bronson Arroyo 曾经也被列入考虑,但勇士不太可能对二流货色砸大钱 * 很多球迷呼吁球队签个 Ace 来:David Price、Max Scherzer、Homer Bailey、Chris Sale 之类的,不过勇士势必要丢掉潜力年轻人,而且预算会更沉重 The Braves' everyday lineup has some question marks in terms of outlook, but relatively few of composition. Feel free to use your pen in filling out an Opening Day lineup card at first (Freeman), short (Simmons), and the corner outfield (J. Upton, Heyward). Likewise, third (Johnson), catcher (Evan Gattis, Christian Bethancourt, Laird), and center (B. Upton, Schafer) are highly likely to be filled from within. Though none of these options is a sure thing, they have probably each either done enough in 2013 or (in the case of the elder Upton) received too great a commitment to warrant an upgrade at this point. Of course, the preceding paragraph assumes that incumbent backstop McCann will depart via free agency. There remains some slight possibility that he finds his way back to the only organization he has ever known. But if McCann commands the $80MM commitment that MLBTR's TIm Dierkes predicts, there is virtually no chance that Atlanta can come close enough to convince him to return. That leaves second base, which is the most glaring weakness on the Atlanta roster and perhaps the single position most likely to be acted upon aggressively. Uggla was expected to to hold things down well enough on the back end of his large contract, but he declined precipitously last year, especially after undergoing Lasik surgery mid-season. If any other team is willing to eat a substantial portion of the $26MM still owed to Uggla, Wren would have to consider pulling the trigger. But it isn't as if the organization has an obvious replacement on hand. It would be tough for a contender to hand the full-time job to Tyler Pastornicky, Johnson, or Pena, though they might combine in a platoon. Increasingly, it seems, 24-year-old Tommy La Stella could have a legitimate shot at taking the reigns after a strong showing in Double-A and big start to his AFL campaign. But MLB.com's Jonathan Mayo lists him just 14th among Braves prospects, calling him a "grinder" rather than a budding star. Likewise, in a recent evaluation, ESPN's Keith Law said (paywall) that La Stella flashed only one plus tool (hit) that left him with a relatively low ceiling. Looking outside of the organization, the free agent pickings are slim after Robinson Cano and Omar Infante. While Infante might be of interest, he will likely be too rich for Atlanta. Otherwise, the Braves would likely be looking at some well-traveled players, with Kelly Johnson and Mark Ellis (assuming the Dodgers decline his option) among the most attractive options. (There is some history behind a couple of these options: Infante was dealt from Atlanta to pick up Uggla, while Johnson was once non-tendered by the club in 2009.) While the rumor of Atlanta's interest in acquiring Brandon Phillips in exchange for Uggla and a prospect could make sense from the home team's perspective, it is far from clear that the feeling would be shared in Cincinnati. Howie Kendrick of the Angels might be a target, as he is only owed $18.85MM over the next two seasons, and the Braves could stand to part with some of the young pitching desired in Anaheim. Otherwise, a series of lesser keystone possibilities might be had via trade. On the bench, with more attractive middle infield options likely available (see above), Janish's time may be up. Likewise, a poor 2012 and cheap buyout make Reed Johnson seem a decent bet to leave town, especially since the club has several other players capable of manning center. A more substantial catching role would take Gattis out of the reserve outfield mix, leaving room for an addition. Of course, Atlanta has some other internal bench hopefuls like Joey Terdoslavich, and will no doubt be loath to spend much for part-time contributors. * 排 lineup 相对没什麽问题,今年各守位的安排都差不多了,看来没什麽升级空间 * McCann 留下的机会非常小,若如预测的 80M 总值合约来看,勇士出不起这个价格 * 二垒是最该有动作的位置,Uggla 急速衰退,如果有球队还肯出点钱,Wren 肯定会考 虑交易他 * 如果 Uggla 真的走了,二垒的洞会是个问题。Pastornicky、EJ、Pena 都不是合宜的 解。24 岁在 2A 跟 AFL 表现火烫的的 Tommy La Stella 或许有机会,但有的专家对 他的评价以及未来发展并不太高,甚至称他只有 "one plus tool (hit)" * 寻求外部解呢?Cano 跟 Infante 都不太可能,Infante 虽然不错但对勇士来说可能还 是有点贵。Kelly Johnson 跟 Mark Ellis 可能会是不错的选项 * 之前有些乳摸说 Brandon Phillips 是交易的目标但看来不太可能;Howie Kendrick 未来两年只要 18.85M,勇士也能供应天使要的年轻投手 * 替补球员:Janish 看来不太会留,RJ 的 buyout 很便宜也能丢他。Gattis 蹲捕後外 野可能也需要个替补。Joey Terdoslavich 会是个好选择,当然勇士也蛮有机会找些打 工仔来 Some teams are fun to watch in the offseason because they spend big; others, because their constraints make every move a complicated, seemingly momentous endeavor. At least assuming the club maintains its payroll at approximately the same level, the Braves seem clearly to fall in the latter category this year. Strong seasons from several prominent younger players have increased payroll pressure via arbitration, while disappointments from some of the team's few major commitments have reduced the possibility of shedding salary. And the clock is ticking on locking up some of the Braves' top-end young talent before free agency beckons. While Atlanta will undoubtedly return a very good team regardless, it will be fascinating to see how Wren maneuvers to set the club up for the future and fill its few areas of immediate need. * 冬天看大市场球队怎样花钱很有趣,但对勇士有限的预算来说没什麽空间。签大约的几 只让人失望,且年轻仲裁资格的球员越来越贵。当然勇士还是无庸置疑会是很有竞争力 的球队,但看 Wren 如何动作以及补洞还是会是个大课题 --  ◢██◣██▉█◣◢█◢██◣█◣ ▊◢██◣◢◢◣◣█◣ ▊ ┌────┐  ███◣ █ ███▉██▉▉▉█◣▊██▉▉███▉▉█◣▊ │批兔个板│  ◥███ █ █◥◤▉██▉▉▉██▊██▉▉███▉▉██▊ │simonown│ ◥██◤██▉█ ▉◥██◤▉◥█▊◥██◤◥◤◥◤▉◥█▊ └────┘ Simon's Blog: http://simonown.blogspot.tw --



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◆ From: 118.163.126.247 ※ 编辑: simonown 来自: 118.163.126.247 (10/30 18:17)
1F:推 bigmowang :推翻译,私心希望给阿瓜回魂机会,但如果丢了能换得 10/30 18:39
2F:→ bigmowang :提前续一些年轻人的机会,那就阿瓜再见了T^T 10/30 18:39
3F:推 MizunoTako :阿瓜丢了空间也有限,基本上也不会卡到那票AE以後FA 10/30 18:45
4F:推 bigmowang :好想留,但又没办法全留,从10开始有空就跟比赛,真 10/30 18:49
5F:→ bigmowang :有人要离开一定会很伤心0.0 10/30 18:50
6F:推 bravefan :我也觉得可以赌赌看阿瓜 眼睛开刀过完冬天能否适应? 10/30 20:15
7F:→ bravefan :现在卖掉一定是要吃超级多薪水的,是能省多少?@@ 10/30 20:15
8F:→ simonown :现在砍真的是砍在谷底,就看有没有急切需要那空出来 10/30 20:21
9F:→ simonown :的6~8M... 10/30 20:21
10F:推 carrhung :不过确定要让Gattis当一号补吗? 10/30 21:33
11F:推 opqasd :这麽有信心Uggla已经是谷底了吗XDXD 10/30 21:47
12F:→ opqasd :而且说是没跟AE球员谈成延长合约过, 不过我也不太记 10/30 21:49
13F:→ opqasd :得之前有哪个是值得提早给他长约的? 10/30 21:49
14F:→ opqasd :记得的就是Prado算一个吧 10/30 21:49
15F:推 MizunoTako :大家都在值得给extension之前就整组坏光了XDDDD 10/30 23:17
16F:→ simonown :06~08这几年的确好像球员来来去去没几个稳的新秀 10/30 23:36
17F:→ simonown :结果这两年前仆後继通通一次冒出来 每个都想延长..XD 10/30 23:37
18F:→ simonown :也可以说是这两三年交易相对保守 不敢乱动潜力股? 10/30 23:38
19F:推 MizunoTako :Hanson AE1,Moylan AE2,JJJ AE2,KJ AE1,粉酷 AE1 10/31 00:01
20F:→ MizunoTako :Chuck James AE前,Giles AE2 10/31 00:02
21F:推 ashidaka :这种吓人的不持久度...该说幸好都没续约吗XD 10/31 00:04
22F:推 MizunoTako :投手都是有伤...打者的话KJ比较可惜(私心) 10/31 00:05
23F:→ MizunoTako :而且像Heyward这种,也很难想像他想在现在签长约XD 10/31 00:06
24F:→ MizunoTako :反正贫穷球队就把风险降低,留不住就说再见换人补洞 10/31 00:07
25F:→ simonown :这样一回顾起来 Wren的判断眼光还真是挺好的(茶) 10/31 00:11
26F:推 wtt168 :推翻译 辛苦了 10/31 04:37
27F:推 synchron :还有McCann吧?! 也是提前延长合约的..当时Francouer 10/31 08:58
28F:→ synchron :似乎还不太高兴他没有.. 10/31 08:59
29F:推 opqasd :查了一下, McCann的约应该是JS给的 10/31 09:39
30F:→ opqasd :Wren是07年10月当上GM, McCann是07年3月就签延长了 10/31 09:40
31F:→ opqasd :所以的确这几年Wren应该是都没给AE球员长约 10/31 09:42
32F:→ opqasd :不过话说回来也没啥人打很好的进FA 10/31 09:43
33F:→ simonown :这篇後面有提到2007给McCann跟Francouer延长合约 10/31 09:43
34F:→ opqasd :都在可以赚大钱之前就衰退或是受伤了 10/31 09:43
35F:→ simonown :http://goo.gl/Mls6pw 结果Francouer两次都拒绝.. 10/31 09:43
36F:推 synchron :我还真不知道有这段..结果Francoeur自己GG 10/31 10:02
37F:推 Rodriguez :还好粉酷拒绝XDDDDDDDDDD 10/31 12:57
38F:推 saxontai :足见粉酷有情有义!(误) 10/31 14:02
39F:推 Smoltzy :David O'Brien说明年预算可能会提高到100M左右!!! 10/31 23:06
40F:推 opqasd :这个数字我记得他去年就说过了~~ 11/01 00:03
41F:→ simonown :这篇的作者在原文就有连结到一篇2013/02的文章 11/01 00:20
42F:→ simonown :http://goo.gl/u2gXhh 里面似乎就有所谓Wren 11/01 00:20
43F:→ simonown :暗示预算可能会到98M甚至更高的这种说法.. 11/01 00:21
44F:→ simonown :不过如同opqasd说的 这是2013年初就讲过的事情.. 11/01 00:21
45F:→ simonown :会不会成真就是另一件事了(叹) 11/01 00:22
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46F:→ cj910 :预算上限是一回事 能不能或想不想用到完是一回事 XD 11/01 01:53
47F:→ simonown :NL几个强权 LAD跳过不说 STL/CIN/WAS各116/110/112M 11/01 02:49
48F:→ simonown :我们要是也多个20M跟人家看齐 很多事都很会好办啊~ 11/01 02:50
49F:→ simonown :签个FA Ace、玩一两个乐透、延长合约赶快绑一绑.. 11/01 02:51
50F:→ simonown :http://goo.gl/9hI7Zm TC也对DOB说100M的说法评了一 11/01 04:17
51F:→ simonown :篇 大意还是有机会 但去年就说98M结果只花89M大概真 11/01 04:17
52F:→ simonown :的没啥好对象可以花 今年如果有不错的机会 有必要多 11/01 04:18
53F:→ simonown :砸个10M下去应该是可以接受的范围 11/01 04:18
54F:→ simonown :作者另外觉得FA留Hudson跟EOF即可 McCann开个QO 11/01 04:22
55F:→ simonown :其他全丢了吧..(Garcia & Ayala 表示:...) 11/01 04:22
56F:推 synchron :Hudson在的话Garcia的确可有可无..Ayala就.. 11/01 09:09
57F:→ synchron :更加可有可无.... 11/01 09:09
58F:→ synchron :opqasd大,我有个问题在MLB版推文问了好几次都没人 11/01 09:11
59F:→ synchron :甩我..想问你知不知道..关於mlb不是新增的所谓的补偿 11/01 09:12
60F:→ synchron :选秀给小市场球队吗? 我一直想问为啥STL会有补偿 11/01 09:12
61F:→ synchron :payroll也是前段,圣路易应该是美中重要的棒球城市 11/01 09:13
62F:→ synchron :看他们的进场人数至少一定比勇士好~~他们为啥可以拿 11/01 09:13
63F:→ synchron :那个补偿选秀? 11/01 09:13
64F:推 opqasd :competitive balance是给30只球队里面市场最小的10只 11/01 09:28
65F:→ opqasd :跟revenue最低的10支球队. 红鸟当然不会是revenue 11/01 09:29
66F:→ opqasd :最低, 所以他们应该是前10小市场 11/01 09:29
67F:→ opqasd :重要的棒球城市不代表市场大吧XD我猜是这样 11/01 09:30
68F:→ opqasd :我猜大概是看所属区域的人口数之类的 11/01 09:32
69F:→ opqasd :其实我觉得Garcia蛮好用的, 如果只要2-3M一年的话 11/01 09:33
70F:→ opqasd :家有一老如有一宝XD 11/01 09:34
71F:→ opqasd :话说回来, 勇士今年入场人数是2.5M左右 11/01 09:40
72F:→ opqasd :红鸟可是3.3M...Orz 11/01 09:40
73F:→ opqasd :老实说今年预算到底是有98M还是只是嘴炮都还不一定XD 11/01 09:45
74F:→ opqasd :如果真的还有将近10M, 季中交易的时候就该拿出来用 11/01 09:45
75F:推 synchron :XD 那这样的话明显的competitive balance就有问题 11/01 09:54
76F:→ synchron :红鸟的competitive balance的顺位比光芒还前面 11/01 09:54
77F:→ synchron :mlb的人订规则的时候都不用回测一下历史的吗? 11/01 09:55
78F:→ synchron :另外现在因为有卡签约金,所以我认为高顺位的选秀 11/01 09:55
79F:→ synchron :更值钱了..不过那是我个人的感觉而已... 11/01 09:56
80F:推 bigmowang :如果真的能到100M,那拜托先把该绑的绑一绑!!! 11/01 10:24
81F:推 opqasd :顺位是用抽的 11/01 10:37
82F:→ opqasd :我想会有这个规则应该是要补偿先天条件不佳的球队吧 11/01 10:38
83F:→ opqasd :用进场人数来看的话也轮不到勇士抽就是了 11/01 10:40
84F:→ opqasd :用那种标准来看勇士就是刚好都在中间或中间偏下 11/01 10:41
85F:→ opqasd :再说如果给了勇士, 他们说不定也只是觉得这是多花钱 11/01 11:06
86F:推 ashidaka :勇士近几年在选秀上很少大手笔的投资 11/01 11:34
87F:推 opqasd :其实也没办法多花钱啊, 因为有限制 11/01 11:36
88F:→ opqasd :这两年有比较冒险, 选了Sims, Wood, Hursh跟Caratini 11/01 11:37
89F:→ opqasd :不然之前都是安全牌XD 11/01 11:37
90F:→ ashidaka :10年的Lipka,11年的Gilmartin....第一顺位选这种安全 11/01 16:27
91F:→ ashidaka :牌实在是.....顺位不高应该可以冒点险吧.... 11/01 16:30
92F:推 Roawen :Lipka应该不算安全牌啦 就没养起来 安全牌应该是09的 11/01 16:57
93F:→ Roawen :Minor跟11的Gilmartin 但Lipka才21岁 说没养起来也是 11/01 16:57
94F:→ Roawen :过早.. 纯粹就是过去三季的成绩 让人很难期待 11/01 16:58
95F:推 opqasd :都忘了Lipka也是第一轮, 打太烂了XD 11/01 20:51
96F:→ bigmowang :听说McDowell可能去PHI...拜托别成真= = 11/02 00:43
97F:→ simonown :好像不只一队对他有兴趣 Wren在跟他谈了..(from DOB) 11/02 15:17
98F:推 synchron :McDowell extends 2yrs 11/03 09:22
99F:推 bigmowang :YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 11/03 13:09







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