作者Roawen (嘴炮型的效率)
看板Braves
标题【John Sickels】ATL 2013 Top 20 prospects
时间Fri Nov 9 14:57:00 2012
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有够惨~~ 连B+的都没有
而且直接把Graham跳到Teheran前面去了...XD
1) J.R. Graham, RHP, Grade B: I really like him and I'm actually more
confident that he'll reach his ceiling than Teheran will reach his, which is
why I've got him a shade above Teheran although Teheran is younger. Plus
stuff, very athletic, good statistical profile add up for me.
2) Julio Teheran, RHP, Grade B: I think this is a generous grade, but given
his youth I also think his problems are fixable as long as there is not an
underlying health issue. Choosing between Teheran and Graham at #1 on this
list is a very tough call.
3) Alex Wood, LHP, Grade B-: Borderline B. Unconventional but it works, had
some excellent outings and should move quickly through the system. This grade
may go up a notch but I have a couple more things to review first.
4) Luke Sims, RHP, Grade B-: Borderline B. Seems like a very solid high
school pitching prospect to me. I really don't see ace upside, but project
him as a solid mid-rotation guy if it all comes together, if he stays
healthy, etc.
5) Zeke Spruill, RHP, Grade B-: For me, his stock is unchanged from last year
but the thinner nature of the system moves him up the standings. Still see
him as a number four/back-end starter but I think he needs a full year in
Triple-A.
6) Sean Gilmartin, LHP, Grade B-: Solid command guy but upside is relatively
limited and I also see him as a number four starter. But that's not an
insult. Will be ready sooner than Spruill.
7) Nick Ahmed, SS, Grade B-: I like him better than the pure stats. Solid
glove, solid baserunner, might start showing more power at some point, makeup
a plus.
8) Mauricio Cabrera, RHP, Grade B-: Needs to refine breaking ball and sharpen
command, but pitched well in the Appy League and has one of the highest
upsides in the system. Candidate to move well up the list in 2013.
9) Tommy La Stella, 2B, Grade B-: I love this guy: pure hitter with superb
plate discipline/contact skills, gap power, and underrated glove.
Unconventional approach turns some scouts off and we do need to see him at
higher levels, but he should not be underestimated.
10) Jose Peraza, SS, Grade B-: Impressive tools, especially on defense, and
his ability to make contact stands out. Early in his career, grade could go
considerably higher in a year or two. On pure tools, would rank higher than
La Stella, but also has a greater chance of failure.
11) Aaron Northcraft, RHP, Grade B-: Doesn't excite scouts, but K/IP shot way
up this year and he gets a huge number of ground balls, all markers of a
significant sleeper.
12) Cody Martin, RHP, Grade B-: Borderline C+: Control artist out of Gonzaga
was part of very successful Lynchburg rotation.
13) Evan Gattis, OF-C, Grade C+: Borderline B-. I have really struggled with
this grade. I believe in the bat, but at age 26 it is difficult to grade and
rank him. You can make a case to place him as high as 7th with a B- grade.
This is quite preliminary and I may bump him up by book time.
14) Edward Salcedo, 3B, Grade C+: Would rank higher on pure tools, but
continues to hamper himself with a poor approach at the plate. Arizona Fall
League scouts noted indifferent effort on defense and generally weak
instincts all-around. Young enough to improve substantially but there is a
lot of work to do.
15) William Beckwith, 1B, Grade C+: Doesn't receive a lot of attention
outside of Braves circles, but an interesting player. Good athlete for his
size, left-side power, plate discipline needs some work but someone to watch
closely.
16) Christian Bethancourt, C, Grade C+: Another guy who would rank higher on
pure tools. Very impressive defense but his bat is awful and several sources
regard it as hopeless. Saving grace is youth. He could be a late-bloomer but
that might be seven years from now.
17) David Hale, RHP, Grade C+: Live arm, continues to make incremental
progress harnessing it. Could see him in the majors in '13 as emergency
starter or in the bullpen.
18) Luis Merejo, LHP, Grade C+: Could plausibly rank as high as 11th
depending on how you want to balance risk/upside/distance from the majors.
Bargain signing at $65,000, not a big guy but looked solid in rookie ball low
90s, throws strikes, and has a promising breaking ball.
19) Navery Moore, RHP, Grade C+: Live arm from Vanderbilt, still adding
polish to his game after injury-plagued college career. Step forward possible
in '13.
20) Todd Cunningham, OF, Grade C+: I like the speed and defense, another guy
who could easily rank eight or nine spots higher. Lack of power keeps him
from being a premium prospect but he could have a long career as a fourth
outfielder.
21) Josh Elander, C, Grade C+: This might be too low. I like his bat, not
sure about the glove.
22) Joey Terdoslavich, 1B, Grade C+: Not as bad as he looked in Triple-A, but
it will be hard to find a place to play him.
OTHERS: John Cornely, RHP; Brandon Drury, 3B; Carlos Franco, 3B; Ryne Harper,
RHP; Ross Heffley, 2B; Nathan Hyatt, RHP, Juan Jaime, RHP; Kyle Kubitza, 3B;
Matt Lipka, OF, Mark Lamm, RHP; Joe Leonard, 3B; Connor Lien, OF; Gary Moran,
RHP; David Peterson, RHP; Carlos Perez, LHP; Williams Perez, RHP; Cory
Rasmus, RHP; Wilson Rivera, RHP; Patrick Scoggin, RHP; Gus Schlosser, RHP.
I really struggled with this organization and have spent more than a week
trying to rank these guys. But at some point I have to give up trying to make
it perfect and just publish the damn thing. This system has thinned out but
it isn't as bad as I thought it was on my first look-thru.
The top six are pretty clear to me (although I've gone back and forth on
Graham/Teheran at the top), but after that you can come up with a few dozen
ways to plausibly rank these guys. Many, many of the grades are borderline
calls, right in the B-/C+ zone, and I expect some of these grades will change
by the time the book is ready to publish.
I again emphasize that grades are always a shorthand.
The organization still has considerable depth in pitching. Although nobody
here has a perfect profile, the Braves have more arm depth than a lot of
systems. Hitting is much thinner. There are guys with very impressive tools
(Salcedo, Bethancourt) who can't hit, or at least they haven't hit yet.
Braves partisans think they will, but sources outside the organization are
much more doubtful, especially about Bethancourt. There are some guys who can
hit (Beckwith, La Stella in particular) but who don't have plus tools. Gattis
is a real quandary from an analytical perspective due to his age, but the
more I study him, the more I like him.
Looking at the 2012 draft, I like the one/two pitching punch of Luke Sims and
Alex Wood at the top. I also like eighth round pick Dave Peterson as a
reliever who could move quickly through the system, as could 13th round pick
Nathan Hyatt and 15th round pick Alex Wilson.
I am much less impressed with the hitting. The Braves drafted several
athletes with questionable bats. Third round pick Bryan de la Rosa has very
impressive defensive tools behind the plate, but was helpless against rookie
ball pitching. Scouting reports about his bat from non-Braves sources are
just as bad as his numbers. He's young enough to improve but it will take a
lot of time if it happens at all. Fourth round pick Justin Black is a toolsy
outfielder from Montana; like de la Rosa, both stats and scouting reports
about his hitting skills are negative at this point and he's already 19,
which makes a difference when plotting out his risk/reward curve.
I saw fifth round pick Blake Brown play at the University of Missouri. The
story is similar here: great athlete, good tools, but looked lost at the
plate in college, unable to handle below average breaking balls. I see no
objective or subjective reason to expect a quick turnaround in pro ball.
I am much more impressed with sixth round pick Josh Elander, another college
guy I'm very familiar with. He is much more polished than Brown and has a
decent set of tools himself although it remains to be seen if he's a catcher
or an outfielder.
I also think 12th round outfielder Connor Lien should be watched very
closely. He is raw and has some issues with his hitting approach, but I think
he has a better chance than de la Rosa or Black to figure out what he's
doing. He's still a five-year project though.
16th round pick Fernelys Sanchez needs to get further past his spring leg
injury before we can get a valid read on either his tools or skills.
18th round pick Ross Heffley isn't toolsy but performed well making a direct
jump to Low-A and will likely end up being a better baseball player than
several of the athletes drafted ahead of him.
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1F:→ Roawen :今年比较不一样的是尾段讲了好多2012选秀的心得 11/09 15:03
2F:推 opqasd :你可以把今年的去年的比较一下, 就知道为什麽没有B+ 11/09 16:03
3F:→ Roawen :那我改成说:竟然还有12个B字头的 真是庆幸 庆幸啊!! 11/09 16:09
4F:推 opqasd :比较正面的地方应该是明年可以上来帮忙的就有不少人 11/09 16:13
5F:→ opqasd :Teheran, Graham, Gilmartin, Gattis, Hale 11/09 16:14
6F:→ opqasd :的确现在是没甚麽很高影响力的prospects, 不过去年 11/09 16:16
7F:→ opqasd :那张单子前四名, 毕业两个, 交易一个, 一个退步 11/09 16:17
8F:→ opqasd :Graham如果能再磨练他的滑球/变速球, 天花板再往上 11/09 16:19
9F:→ opqasd :抬也是很有可能. 这才是他第一个职业的完整球季 11/09 16:19
10F:→ opqasd :倒是这份单子对Spruill, Gattis跟Northcraft的预测 11/09 16:22
11F:→ opqasd :比我想像中的乐观 11/09 16:23
12F:→ opqasd :远程来说Cabrera, Peraza, Wood跟Sims都还蛮有看头的 11/09 16:26
13F:→ opqasd :如果季後没签下Bourn/Upton/Swisher的话, 多一个1S签 11/09 16:27
14F:→ Roawen :我是感觉Sickels一向对勇士蛮友善 毕竟他是偏数据派 11/09 16:46
15F:→ Roawen :如果勇士这农场被BA,BP这种重视talent,tools的来评 11/09 16:47
16F:→ Roawen :应该会很惨... 11/09 16:49
17F:推 opqasd :如果说Sickels对勇士农场评价较友善, 而这群prospect 11/09 16:56
18F:→ opqasd :也真的可以长起来, 那代表的是他的预测是对的 11/09 16:56
19F:→ opqasd :而不是过於乐观吧. 11/09 16:57
20F:推 synchron :不会啦..重视talent跟tools的..Selcedo&Bethancourt 11/09 17:26
21F:→ synchron :就爬上来了..而且今年的农场惨也算是预料中事 11/09 17:26
22F:→ synchron :毕竟名单里面一狗票都是这两年选进的 11/09 17:27
23F:→ synchron :我们这两年也不是什麽高顺位的选秀. 11/09 17:27
24F:推 opqasd :1Lineup里面还有三个明年开季还是23岁的主力 11/09 17:49
25F:推 synchron :不过Terdoslavich真的很尴尬..1B被Freeman卡住了 11/09 18:11