作者opqasd (opq)
看板Braves
标题Re: [心得]老大一怒冲冠为逆转~~~~~~~~~~
时间Mon May 7 17:49:30 2012
http://ppt.cc/iaRD
节录翻译
Chipper:
“It got us all motivated. He woke a sleeping giant,” Jones said.“We didn't
do much before that point, and after that point I believe we scored 11 run.
Everybody [on the Braves] knew what was going on.”
这件事让刺激了我们全体, 他唤醒了沉睡中的巨人
在那之前我们没得几分, 在那之後我们一口气干下了11分
勇士全部的球员都知道发生甚麽事
"That just doesn’t make sense – it’s a 6-2 ballgame and a 3-0 count. My
hitter is taking no matter what in that situation. Because we play the game
right. And he thinks I’m giving signs? He’s paranoid.”
我们2:6落後, McCann的球数是0好3坏, 不管投手投甚麽东西过来打者都会等一球
Moyer居然说我在偷他的暗号?他有被害妄想症吧
“I literally am standing on second base and I’m talking to Tulo, and I turn
around and [Moyer] is coming set,” he said. “So I get ready and take my
lead, and [Moyer] goes, ‘I see you.’ And I go, what the [bleep] do you see?
What the [bleep] are you talking about?’ I go, ‘I was [bleeping] talking to
your shortstop. And he said something else with his back turned, like he
yelled but didn’t face me. I go, that’s [bleeping] B.S. And I turned around
to Tulo and Tulo’s like [holds hands up].”
那时我就站在2垒上然後跟Tulo (Tulowitzki)抬杠, 然後当我转身过去时Moyer正准备丢球
正当我准备好开始离垒时, Moyer开始靠背了"我看到你了喔"
然後我就干嚼回去:
"你是他妈的看到甚麽鬼, 你他妈的在靠杯杀小, 我他妈的正在跟你家游击手聊天啦"
然後Moyer转身过去又罗哩八说了一些, 就像是他在干嚼但是没有面对我
我又嚼他"你他妈的再鬼扯啊", 然後我转身过去看着Tulo, Tulo做了个两手一摊的动作
When Moyer came up to bat in the bottom of the fifth inning, Jones said the
pitcher stepped out of the batter’s box and had a message for Braves catcher
McCann.
“What really kind of gets under my skin is the fact that he told Mac, ‘That
’s how people get hurt,’” Jones said.
当Moyer五下上来打击的时候, Jones说Moyer还跟McCann靠背了他几句
我真的感到受伤的就是Moyer还跑去跟McCann靠杯
Jones said Moyer’s comment to McCann upset him. Later on the field he spoke
to Rockies first baseman Todd Helton and Tulowitzki about it “because
[Moyer] was already out of the game by then, after those 900-foot homers with
nobody on base – I said he could meet me in the tunnel and discuss it if [he
would] like, and I never heard back.
Moyer跟McCann说看Jones很不爽, Jones後来在场上告诉Helton跟Tulowitzki这件事
"因为那时候他已经被两只特大号阳春炮干下场了"
"我说Moyer看我不爽可以出来讲, 不过他没种出来"
“I don’t know what he was thinking. I’ve never relayed a sign from second
in my entire career. And Tulo said his signs are so complex that NASA couldn’
t steal them.”
我真不知道他到底在想甚麽, 我整个职业生涯从没从二垒偷过暗号
而且Tulo说Moyer的暗号复杂到连NASA都偷不走
“I tell you what, the next time we face them I’ll stand with my back to
him, and see what he says then,” Jones said. “What’s his excuse going to
be when he gives it up then? I mean, dude, we don’t need signs, especially
for him. I mean, my goodness, every pitch is 78 [mph]. Come on.
下次我遇到他们的时候, 我会背对着Moyer看他还可以靠杯杀小
看他到时候被打爆还会不会有甚麽藉口. 我们根本不需要暗号, 特别是遇到他的时候
他每一球都只有78mph而已
“See, this is what happens when you get a pitcher who comes from a team that
[relays signs] constantly — the Phillies,” Jones said. “And he is so
paranoid that every single team does it, which is not the case. Because the
only people that I ever remember doing it in this organization were [Jeff]
Blauser and [Mark] Lemke. Those are the only two guys that I ever knew of
that would either give location or give signs from second base. Since then,
nobody’s ever done it [with the Braves].
这就是你从一只常常会去干偷暗号这种事情球队弄来投手会发生的事情--费人
这种投手就是会疑心病超重到认为每支球队都会干这种事, 但其实不是这样的
因为我唯一记得有勇士的球员会偷暗号打pass的就是Jeff Blauser跟Mark Lemke
这两个人我唯一知道会打暗号的勇士球员, 从他们之後就没人干过
“I’ve never asked for a location, I’ve never asked for a pitch, and I’ve
never given one.”
我从来没要求(跑者)给我球路的位置
我从来没要求告诉我球种
我也从没干过偷暗号这种事
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Matt Diaz
“Any time a pitcher steps off and starts talking toward second base, and
then steps out of the box and starts talking to your catcher, you want to
know what’s going on,” Diaz said. “So yeah, we were all asking. We were
aware.
任何时候当投手退出投手丘开始向二垒靠杯, 然後又离开打击区向你的捕手靠杯
你都会想要知道他到底是在靠杯杀小
是的...我们都在讲这件事, 我们都知道发生了甚麽事
“Jamie’s been known to be a little paranoid before. It’s just one of those
things where it made absolutely no sense in the situation. And like Chip
said, [Moyer] is one of those guys where giving pitches is really going to
help. You’ll end up chasing out of the zone. If you’re sitting change-up
and you get it, you’ll end up chasing it out of the zone.”
我们之前就知道Moyer有点疑心病太重, 对Jones的指控根本就是毫无道理可言
跟Chip说的一样, Moyer是那种你越是知道他要丢甚麽球会越打不好的投手
如果你在等变速球而且你真的等到了, 当你去追打的时候会发现那其实是颗坏球
Diaz said many major league teams make a practice of stealing and relaying
signs, but not the Braves.
“To be honest with you, I’ve tried to get the Braves to relay signs from
second ever since I got here, because every other team I’ve been on does it,
” Diaz said. “And Chip’s the reason we don’t. He’ll say ‘no, we don’t
do that.’ So it’s funny that he got called out on it. Ironic even.”
Diaz说许多大联盟球队都会练习偷暗号与打pass给打者, 但是勇士们不干这种事
"老实说, 我以前在勇士的时候曾经试图干过从二垒偷暗号这种事,
因为其他所有我待过的球队都有在做"
(Diaz待过魔鬼鱼, 皇家跟海盗...XD)
但是Chip是我们(勇士)没做这种事的原因, 他会说"我们才不干这种事"
所以他被指控这种事情是很古怪而且讽刺的
Diaz said Jones has always preached that hitters tend to expand their strike
zones when they know the type and/or location of the that’s coming. Pointing
out that he’s had his best seasons with the Braves, Diaz said he’s probably
better off because they don’t relay signs. He spent most of last season with
the Pittsburgh Pirates before being traded back to the Braves in August.
Diaz说Jones总是说打者知道投手要投那一类型的球时会扩大自己好球带的倾向
Diaz说他在勇士打得比较好, 可能是因为勇士不干偷暗号这种事
“Last year we [Pirates] would relay at second sometimes if it was obvious,
and I stunk,” he said. “So it’s one of those things… It’s been a part of
the game for a long time. But the situation last night was really bizarre. We
’re down four [at the time]. Who’s going to swing 3-0 when we’re down
four? I mean, even if you get the green light that means you’re really
selfish. You better hit a homer. Mac’s a baseball player. He knows.”
如果暗号很明显的话, 去年我在海盗的时候他们有偷过几次暗号, 而且我也干过
这种事情就是这样, 长久以来也成为比赛中的一部分了, 但是昨晚的情况实在是太可笑了
我们落後四分, 谁会在0好3坏的时候挥棒啊
就算那时候你得到了个绿灯, 在那时候挥棒也只表示你真的很自私而已
你要挥最好保证你可以干出全垒打墙, Mac是个好球员, 他知道这时候该做甚麽
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Tulowitzki:
“Moyer said something,” the shortstop said. “I think exactly how Chipper
said it is how it happened. I think Moyer accused him of giving locations.
All I can tell you is that Chipper and I were just talking, and I didn’t get
any sense that he was relaying anything. No one knows the truth. You can look
at it from both sides. On Moyer’s side, who’s going to say, ‘Yeah, I was
giving locations’?
Moyer是说了一些话, 我想整件事情就像Chipper所说的那样
我想是Moyer指控Chipper在偷打暗号给McCann告诉他球的位置
我能告诉你的就是当时我正在跟Chipper聊天, 我并没有发现他有任何在打暗号的迹象
不过话说回来没有任何会知道真相, 如果你从Moyer的角度来看, 他当然会觉得没有任
何人会承认自己在正偷暗号
“So yeah, you can see both sides. But for me, [Jones] wasn't doing anything.”
Tulowitzki also said he understood why Jones would be upset.
“Put yourself in his shoes – if you’re accused of something and you know
you didn’t do it, you’re going to be fired up,” he said.
"在我看来Jones是没做任何事" Tulowitzki说他了解Jones为什麽不爽
"站在Chipper的立场来看, 如果你被指控你没做的事, 你当然会发火啊"
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1F:推 Roawen :推一下!XD 尤其费人那段XDD 05/07 18:11
2F:推 c0422kimo :推『费城』 05/07 18:23
3F:推 tanaka0826 :推~ 05/07 18:24
4F:推 chenguanwen :真有偷暗号 那之前对还在费城的摩牙怎麽还打不好XD 05/07 18:47
5F:推 pekonbon :Mark Lemke表示:你这个菜叫啊竟然敢婊我~ 05/07 19:46
6F:推 Chipperjones:我一次俵了Jeff Blauser跟Mark Lemke...XD 05/07 19:53
7F:推 jagr :Jeff Blauser跟Mark Lemke,好怀念的名字啊 05/07 20:43
8F:推 Vassili242 :Blauser & Lemke:我们可是帮你弄了个戒指呢 05/07 20:48
9F:推 jagr :我印象(真的纯印象)这两个打击都很鸟,尤其Lemke,但 05/07 20:58
10F:→ jagr :他们就是勇士90年代开启的一个代表 05/07 20:58
11F:推 Sechslee :推 XD 05/07 21:31
12F:推 walkoffhomer:难怪Diaz在海盗挤不出全垒打XD 原来费城会偷暗号喔 05/07 21:50
13F:推 cj910 :78mph的快速球有需要偷吗? 05/07 22:07
14F:→ opqasd :费人偷暗号可是有被拍到过的 05/07 22:17
15F:→ opqasd :Manuel自己也承认他们会偷暗号 05/07 22:19
17F:推 HLIE :“What really kind of gets under my skin is the 05/07 22:54
18F:→ HLIE :fact that he told Mac,‘That’s how people get 05/07 22:55
19F:→ HLIE : hurt,’” Jones said. 这句应该是说,老大真正不爽 05/07 22:55
20F:→ HLIE :的点,是在於磨牙透过麦肯回呛他说:这就是(偷暗号) 05/07 22:57
21F:→ HLIE :的人会受伤的原因!(因为会有队友被砸来抵债吧) 05/07 22:57
22F:推 HLIE :所以第七局Prado被丢可能是小老弟被磨牙指使的... 05/07 23:07
23F:推 bravefan :感谢整理翻译,看完这篇长了不少知识,原来偷暗号还 05/07 23:27
24F:→ bravefan :蛮普遍的,只是老大是不屑这行为的代表,所以特不爽 05/07 23:28
25F:→ bravefan :话说勇士不偷暗号後,就没得冠军了。>< 05/07 23:29
26F:推 boldorange :推老大 05/07 23:31
27F:推 XDXDXDD :好怀念的名字!!!!! 05/08 00:15
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29F:推 Heyward :O大翻得真是透彻露骨~~~~~~~~~~~大推 05/08 17:40
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