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标题[情报] ESPN预测 村上80M 冈本36M 今井135M
时间Fri Nov 7 09:55:59 2025
ESPN记者Kiley McDaniel一年一度的FA预测
https://reurl.cc/aM5MmY
年份 总额 入札金
5.
今井达也 6年
135M 22.125M
10.
村上宗隆 5年
80M 13.875M
21.
冈本和真 3年
36M 6.925M
Kiley McDaniel给的评语
今井达也
Imai likely gets the biggest deal of any foreign professional this winter and is
more of a solid No. 2 or No. 3 starter with some risk to get there than a poten
tial ace, but his age and the lack of a qualifying offer will help bring up the
amount teams are willing to pay for him. Imai will be subject to the posting sys
tem; the posting fee for this projected contract would be just over $22 million,
paid to his NPB club, for an all-in cost of just over $157 million ($26.2M AAV)
.
今井很可能会成为今年冬天所有海外球员中拿到最大合约的那一位,虽然他更像是一名稳定
的二号或三号先发投手,而非潜力十足的王牌,但他的年龄以及身上没QO,将让各队愿意开
出更高金额
A big selling point on Imai is his cratering walk rate, going from a BB/9 of 5.1
to 4.1 to 3.6 to 2.5 over the past four seasons, punctuated by his 2025 line: 1
63⅔ IP and a 1.92 ERA. Imai is 5-foot-11 and throws from a lower slot, so he cr
eates a flat plane, excellent for swings and misses at the top of the zone for h
is 93-97 mph four-seam fastball that hit 99 mph last season. His miss rate on th
e pitch wasn't elite because he didn't throw it at the top of the zone very ofte
n, but that's something that can be fine-tuned in the big leagues.
今井的一大卖点,是他逐年明显改善的保送率
过去四年他的BB/9从 5.1 → 4.1 → 3.6 → 2.5,进步幅度惊人
2025年他投出163又2/3局、防御率1.92的成绩
今井身高约180 公分,采用较低的投球出手点,因此能制造出平坦的投球轨迹,这让他的四
缝线快速球(93–97英里,最高达99英里)在好球带上缘非常具有挥空效果
不过他的这颗速球挥空率尚未达到顶级水准,主要是因为他并不常把球投在上缘;这部分进
入大联盟後仍有微调空间
Imai has an above-average splitter, but his slider is a more interesting topic.
His slider doesn't slide: It averages arm-side movement, like Trey Yesavage's, s
o it can be an effective pitch even if it's unusual to see (especially when pair
ed with a splitter and above-average fastball velocity, like Yesavage does). The
re's some conventional wisdom in baseball that a backup slider is the best pitch
in baseball (because nobody knows when a pitcher will misthrow the pitch like t
hat), but that's meant as a one-off, not a recurring quality to shoot for.
今井的指叉球品质在平均之上,但更值得注意的是他的滑球
他的滑球其实「不太滑」,反而平均有向投手手臂方向(arm-side)的移动,类似Trey Yes
avage的滑球,虽然这样的球路不太常见,但当与指叉球和高於平均的速球结合时,能形成
相当有效的配球组合
棒球界有句戏言:「最强的滑球是失投的滑球」,因为打者根本预测不到那种误差,但这句
话通常是玩笑,并不是投手应该刻意追求的特性
You could question Imai's size or fastball miss rate or shorter track record of
elite command, but the biggest concern teams have is if his slider will play in
the big leagues for the long term. It played well this season, with a 45% miss r
ate and .212 xwOBA, both well better than MLB average for a slider. These qualit
ies add up to both uniqueness in Imai's shapes and release traits as well as adj
ustability due to his improving command: Some teams see these two qualities as t
he secret to projecting longevity and improvement with pitchers.
外界可能会质疑今井的体格、速球挥空率,或是他顶级控球能力的样本仍不够长,但球团最
大的疑虑在於——他的滑球是否能在大联盟长期发挥作用
今年这颗滑球表现优异,挥空率达 45%,预期加权上垒率(xwOBA)仅 .212,远优於MLB平
均
这些特质显示出今井在球质变化与出手机制上的独特性,再加上不断提升的控球能力,使他
具备可调整性与成长潜力;部分球队甚至认为这正是评估投手长期稳定与进步的关键
Every team would love to land a steady midrotation starter on a deal where half
of it will take place in his 20s. If I miss this projection by $25 million or mo
re, it'll probably be because he got more money, not less.
任何球队都梦想能签下一位正值巅峰期、能稳定担任先发轮值中段的投手
若这份合约最终与预测金额相差超过 2,500万美元,那极可能是因为他拿得更多,而非更少
村上宗隆
Murakami missed being age-eligible to be posted last winter by a few months. His
posting process has been anticipated since he burst onto the scene in 2022 and
hit 56 home runs in his age-22 season in Japan. Since then, a combination of inj
uries, positional questions and contact issues has dampened evaluators' enthusia
sm a bit.
自他在 2022 年以22岁之龄在日本击出 56 支全垒打、震撼球界以来,他的入札挑战美职就
备受期待
不过,随着近年出现的伤病、守备位置疑虑,以及contact问题,外界对他的评价热度略有
下降
On the bright side, Murakami is a left-handed hitter with massive raw power: His
90th percentile exit velos would've been fifth in MLB, his maximum exit velo wo
uld be 12th and his hard-hit rate would be first. On the other hand, he's probab
ly a long-term first baseman (but hasn't really played there before), his contac
t rates would be among the worst in MLB and he has faced lesser velocity in NPB.
Some evaluators think his contact rate could improve -- even while facing bette
r pitchers in the U.S. -- if he can make some mechanical/approach adjustments, b
ut that's obviously speculative.
好的一面是,村上是一名拥有惊人力量的左打者:若把他今年日职数据放在美职比,他的击
球初速可排在MLB第5名,最大击球初速第12名,而强劲击球率更将是全联盟第1名
不过另一方面,他可能最终只能长期镇守一垒(但实际上一垒经验并不多),他的contact%
若换算到MLB水准会属於联盟後段班,而且他在日本职棒所面对的球速普遍偏慢
部分球探认为,若他能调整打击机制与选球策略,即使面对美职更强的投手,他的contact%
仍有改善空间,但这终究只是推测
The bull case is that Murakami's combination of elite exit velos, hitting from t
he left side, having some defensive value in the infield and being in his mid-20
s is rare enough on the free agent market to get him an eight-figure AAV over a
five- or six-year deal, with some execs assuming the total outlay plus posting f
ee will eclipse $100 million, possibly by a big margin. It'll take a team with t
hat perspective of Murakami to get to that number because other evaluators see a
risky, one-dimensional player here.
对村上的乐观预测是:他结合了顶级击球初速、左打优势、一定的内野防守价值,以及仍在
二十多岁的年龄,这样的条件在自由球员市场上极为罕见,足以让他拿到年均八位数美元(
AAV超过1,000万美元)、为期五到六年的合约
有些球团高层甚至认为,连同入札金在内,总金额可能超过 1亿美元,甚至远高於此
但要达到这个价位,前提是球队必须相信村上的长期价值;不少球探仍视他为高风险、偏单
一面向的打者
A reasonable expectation is Murakami can be an immediate home run threat with a
solid walk rate but a low average and not much in the way of baserunning or defe
nsive value -- maybe Kyle Manzardo/Matt Wallner on the lower end, Spencer Torkel
son as a medium comp and Brent Rooker as the hopeful outcome. The above projecte
d contract might look weird for that set of comps, and there are a number of tea
ms that wouldn't go over $50 million for Murakami, but there are also not many m
id-20s position players on the free agent market with a clear carrying tool and
no QO; these sorts of players demand a high price on the trade market if they're
even available. A comp that comes up is Joey Gallo, who most fans think was alw
ays a bad player, but he did post 4.4 WAR in his age-27 season, and next year wi
ll be Murakami's age-26 season.
合理的预期是:村上进入美职後会立刻成为具威胁性的长打炮手,具备不错的保送能力,但
打击率偏低,跑垒与守备贡献有限
若要找比对选手,低标可参考Kyle Manzardo、Matt Wallner,中间层级是 Spencer Torkel
son,而理想情况则是 Brent Rooker
以这样的比较基准来看,先前提到的合约金额或许显得偏高,部分球队不会为村上开出超过
5,000万美元,但考虑到自由市场上极少有年仅二十多岁、具备明确核心技能且没有QO的打
者,这类球员在交易市场上往往要价极高
有球探将他与Joey Gallo相提并论——虽然许多球迷认为Gallo是失败例子,但他在27岁那
季仍打出4.4 WAR;而明年村上将满 26岁
Remember Yoshinobu Yamamoto went for almost double of many of his pre-offseason
contract projections with those same market factors also on his side, though he'
s a starting pitcher. Murakami is hitting the market 3½ years younger than Masa
taka Yoshida was as a free agent with a similar amount of defensive and baserunn
ing value, and Yoshida got $90 million from the Red Sox. I'm striking a bit of a
balance with my projection, but I could see Murakami's ultimate deal being arou
nd $50 million or well over $100 million (before posting fee), with the higher n
umber more likely.
要记得山本由伸去年获得的合约金几乎是季前预测的两倍;在市场条件相似的情况下,他最
终签下天价合约(虽然他是先发投手)
村上进入自由市场时,比吉田正尚还年轻3年半,两者在守备与跑垒价值上相近,而吉田当
时从红袜拿到9,000万美元
综合考量後,我预估村上的最终合约可能在5,000万美元到超过1亿美元之间(不含入札金)
,而更高金额的情况更为可能
We can profile the sorts of teams that will be the most enthusiastic bidders. Te
ams with big payrolls that also highly value exit velo and age might see this ga
mble as an enticing one: The Yankees are one team that fits on both counts and t
he Cubs could fit as well. Chicago has Kyle Tucker hitting free agency along wit
h Ian Happ, Seiya Suzuki and Nico Hoerner entering walk years, while Matt Shaw,
Moises Ballesteros, Owen Caissie, Kevin Alcantara and Jonathon Long are battling
for long-term spots, so the Cubs could add Murakami to that group to get some t
ime at the four corner spots and DH.
接下来可以预测哪些球队最有可能积极参与竞标:
那些拥有庞大薪资空间、又重视击球初速与年龄潜力的球队,会特别对村上感兴趣
洋基是符合这两项条件的球队之一,小熊也同样合适
芝加哥目前预计Kyle Tucke将成为自由球员,Ian Happ、铃木诚也与Nico Hoerner也即将进
入合约年;同时,Matt Shaw、Moises Ballesteros、Owen Caissie、Kevin Alcantara、Jo
nathon Long等年轻球员正在竞争长期位置
因此小熊若引进村上,可让他在一、三垒及指定打击轮替出赛,补强阵容深度
冈本和真
Like Murakami, Okamoto primarily played third base in NPB and likely moves to fi
rst base in short order in MLB. Unlike Murakami, Okamoto has played a lot of fir
st base, so there will be less of a breaking-in period as he's also getting used
to big league pitching. Okamoto has a track record of strong on-base percentage
s in Japan, though some evaluators think he could be challenged by the higher ve
locity in MLB. He has plus raw power and an excellent feel for getting to it in
games, giving him some ceiling if his contact rates in MLB are good enough. A ri
ght-handed-hitting (likely) first baseman who will turn 30 next June and has no
big league experience is still a bit of a risk without a ton of ceiling, but Oka
moto is a good bet to be a solid contributor, with a chance to be more if it all
translates.
和村上宗隆一样,冈本和真在日本职棒主要守三垒,不过若转战美职,预计很快就会改守一
垒
只不过不同的是,冈本过去已经有相当多一垒守备经验,因此他在适应大联盟投手的同时,
不需要太长的守备过渡期
冈本在日本的生涯中一向拥有稳定的上垒率纪录,尽管有部分球探认为他可能会受到美职更
快球速的挑战
他具备长打力量,也拥有出色的比赛解读能力,若能在美职维持足够的Contact,仍有相当
高的上限
虽然作为一名右打的一垒手、且明年六月将满30岁、又尚未有美职经验的球员,仍带有一定
风险、潜力有限
但整体而言,冈本依旧被视为一位可靠的即战力打者,若顺利适应环境,他甚至有机会成为
超出预期的战力
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1F:推 yeeNeko: 22M应该够补很多洞吧?感觉放人值得 11/07 10:02
2F:推 lmf770410: 山本的表现让今井吃到红利 11/07 10:06
3F:推 Y225: 22M可以分给安可多少? 11/07 10:07
4F:推 abc12812: 村上那种盲泡给50M都偏高吧 11/07 10:08
5F:推 zego41: 投手还是最值钱 11/07 10:12
6F:推 ct13579: ESPN反而认为今井是今年日职旅美的最大咖阿,但却实稳定 11/07 10:12
7F:→ ct13579: 的中段+都是各队需要的 11/07 10:12
8F:推 smad: 今井现在卖相超好 而且他这种类型大联盟最爱 11/07 10:14
9F:→ smad: 现在也证明了 一级日职投手基本可以站稳大联盟 11/07 10:14
10F:→ smad: 希望白喵拿卖他的大钱好好去补一些重炮 11/07 10:14
11F:→ smad: 今年那种团队防御率竟然没A段班 就知道打击多悲剧 11/07 10:14
12F:推 k23210000: 22M差不多33e日币了,反观高桥光成0人在乎XD 11/07 10:14
13F:推 lity3426: 今井是不是要感谢道奇三兄弟季後赛又多抬了价XD 11/07 10:16
14F:→ annboy: 看起来今井能被归类成山本型的投手? 11/07 10:18
15F:→ Kawow: 5年80M 又没多高...这也能酸xd 11/07 10:18
16F:推 CusRise: 今井速度够三振能力又好,价格高蛮正常的 11/07 10:19
17F:→ CusRise: 他就是标准那种去美国会成功的日本投手 11/07 10:19
18F:推 takeda0727: 今井的滑球真的很特别 11/07 10:20
19F:推 mashmabo: 钱太香了 难怪西武要放 11/07 10:20
20F:推 i376ers: 冈本感觉划算 11/07 10:23
21F:推 Werth: 如果梅子没签回Alonso 这个价格应该会出手 11/07 10:23
22F:→ kingianlin: 今井那麽少? 11/07 10:23
23F:推 JWalk77: Manzardo是低标 村上很被看好欸 11/07 10:23
24F:推 hexokinase: 22M很多了吧 11/07 10:24
25F:推 juicyfruit: 今井卖相真的赞 西武赚~ 11/07 10:25
26F:推 s83106: 主要是因为是日本投手吧 刚好有山本让大家信心大增?! 11/07 10:25
27F:推 kingianlin: 感觉价格会被抬到更高 11/07 10:26
28F:推 MK47: 山本丢这麽好 肯定有拉抬作用 11/07 10:26
29F:推 lmc66: 洋基该认真抢今井了吧 不然纽媒又要生气了 11/07 10:27
30F:推 Manslayer69: 日本大投手除了去洋基的表现两极化以外,大部分都 11/07 10:28
31F:→ Manslayer69: 不错 11/07 10:28
32F:→ kingianlin: 同城那个缺投手的会砸更凶吧 11/07 10:28
33F:推 gama: 今井这种型态应该可以适应美国啦 11/07 10:33
34F:推 luna2000sea: 另个原因是在MLB能称得上速球的日投先发所剩无几了 11/07 10:33
35F:推 zxc123519: 今井有比今永强那麽多? 11/07 10:33
36F:推 smad: 今井合约如果只有6年 应该不太可能只有这样 11/07 10:34
37F:→ smad: 而且他找的经纪人是大名鼎鼎的吸血鬼Boras 11/07 10:34
38F:→ smad: 看他能把这张合约拉到多高了 11/07 10:34
39F:推 s83106: 波拉斯喔? 那感觉合约有机会抬很高XDDD 11/07 10:35
40F:推 willywasd: 今永去都30岁了 11/07 10:39
41F:推 rayterzll: 村上大概是舒服哥等级,你会花100M买舒服哥? 11/07 10:39
42F:推 wuuman: 想签金永可能要先问道奇给不给吧 11/07 10:41
43F:→ wuuman: 洋基在Rice打出来之前应该对村上有兴趣 现在有Rice了 希 11/07 10:42
44F:→ wuuman: 望别又搞 11/07 10:42
45F:推 rayterzll: 今永明年33岁,道奇目前阵容就够老了,再签一个日本崔 11/07 10:44
46F:→ rayterzll: 南干嘛 11/07 10:44
47F:推 f40075566: 那当然抢冈本和今井 11/07 10:47
48F:→ mumuwei: 陈王虎只要一半不到 6年 65M就好 11/07 10:47
49F:→ eellee: 村上这麽年轻有潜力 拿舒服哥比疯了吧 11/07 10:50
50F:推 benboy: 乱猜三个选手至少有一个会去梅子 XD 11/07 10:51
51F:→ eellee: 怎麽每次交易就会有一堆酸民想被打脸 %%%脸一直被打真的 11/07 10:51
52F:→ eellee: 都学不乖 11/07 10:51
53F:→ eellee: 当然也不能保证他们就一定怎样 但年轻就是本钱 还没打过 11/07 10:52
54F:→ eellee: 谁知道几年後谁能适应进化 11/07 10:52
55F:→ eellee: 但一堆人拿28 32岁的去比25岁的村上实在看不懂 11/07 10:54
56F:推 amos30627: 村上看起来MLB球队是不担心他锯炮 他的击球初速跟挥棒 11/07 10:59
57F:→ amos30627: 速度都是顶的 11/07 10:59
58F:→ amos30627: 只要挥得到球XD 11/07 11:00
59F:推 Arsenal1017: 村上的优点就是年轻会觉得还有空间成长 一堆人拿30+ 11/07 11:06
60F:→ Arsenal1017: 老人来比??? 11/07 11:06
61F:→ Kawow: 舒服哥...有理由不看好 但这版一堆瞎黑的 11/07 11:08
62F:推 CaminoI: 今井27岁阿 年龄就是优势 11/07 11:09
63F:→ CaminoI: 村上也是看他25岁有未来成长空间 所以虽然盲&守备差 价码 11/07 11:10
64F:→ CaminoI: 就是比冈本好 11/07 11:10
65F:推 society: 李政厚那成绩跟在韩国刷都有破亿了,村上怎样都是日本顶 11/07 11:11
66F:→ society: 尖打者,守位扣分80M一定有吧 11/07 11:11
67F:→ CaminoI: 难说 现在风向看起来是日本投手吃香 日本打者目前就诚也 11/07 11:13
68F:→ CaminoI: 比较稳定 吉田要轮DH出场比较少 11/07 11:13
69F:推 n61208: 村上如果挥不到球一直吃k 再快初速都是纸上谈兵 11/07 11:13
70F:→ CaminoI: 是说小熊哪来的位置给村上?一垒不可能给他阿 11/07 11:14
71F:推 ct13579: 球团应该是不会想花几千万美金签一个还在“成长”的新秀 11/07 11:14
72F:→ EZ78: 可能预期还要养吧 阿灾 11/07 11:16
73F:推 lmc66: 他是会选球的不是盲 Contact差有机会被美国修好 年轻值得 11/07 11:16
74F:→ lmc66: 投资 11/07 11:16
75F:→ EZ78: 虽然在Tucker走之後DH应该空出来了是真的 11/07 11:16
76F:→ CaminoI: 因为他今年的数据比起去年下滑 所以才会有怀疑他能否再成 11/07 11:16
77F:→ CaminoI: 长的声音吧 11/07 11:16
78F:→ EZ78: 所以也有人在说可能要把Schwarb迁回来 11/07 11:16
79F:→ EZ78: 所以说 不是不可能 要挤是挤得出位置没错 11/07 11:17
80F:→ CaminoI: 总之预测价码和最终价码可能差不多 要再拉上的空间不大 11/07 11:17
81F:→ CaminoI: 就是挤位置出来给他 或是填空? 11/07 11:18
82F:→ EZ78: 看小熊怎麽评价Ballesteros 如果没签FA预期应该是他 11/07 11:19
83F:→ wenfei: 村上和冈本差太多了吧 11/07 11:19
84F:→ EZ78: 如果不看好的话就会看到去抢Schwarb/村上了 11/07 11:19
85F:→ EZ78: 毕竟这两个签进来就是DH站好站满 铃木全职右外野 11/07 11:20
86F:→ EZ78: 阿不过 其实虽然大家可能不太关注小熊 但小熊超爱日本球员 11/07 11:21
87F:→ EZ78: 几乎每年都维持队上至少一个日本人 不知道为啥XD 11/07 11:21
88F:推 jfs: 比起日投,日本打者适应不良的机会更高没错,但村上的年纪和 11/07 11:23
89F:→ jfs: power就摆在那,一定有球队会想赌 11/07 11:23
90F:推 toin1537: 村上那麽盲签下去赌很大 11/07 11:31
91F:→ zlatan10: 日打比日投差远了 11/07 11:31
92F:推 lwswjs: 看这次WBC了验货时间 11/07 11:48
93F:推 Kowdan: 日投有山本拉抬价格以後价格拉超高也合理,今井今年那成 11/07 12:08
94F:→ Kowdan: 绩也是够杀 11/07 12:08
95F:推 s310213: 冈本快30了喔...不知不觉 11/07 12:18
96F:推 iceteeth: 山本可是三届泽村赏 表示日本最强投手无误 11/07 13:13
97F:推 rainbowcrash: 村上近几年有点被看破手脚,觉得签过去要练一季 11/07 13:23
98F:推 shengping: 村上本应向上的成长曲线 在22-25这年纪表现反常逐年下 11/07 15:35
99F:→ shengping: 滑 11/07 15:35
100F:嘘 zx246800tw: 舒你老师勒 舒服哥 11/07 16:13