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标题[新闻] Emirates计画於2023/8 恢复A380飞航台北
时间Sat Jan 14 22:21:59 2023
[媒体名称] Simply Flying
[新闻日期]2023/1/11
[网址]
https://simpleflying.com/emirates-a380-returns-to-taipei/
[内文]
Emirates计画於2023/8/1 恢复A380 (三舱等)飞航台北
Emirates has confirmed the return of the A380 to Taipei after a
three-and-a-half-year absence. Now bookable, it'll again use the superjumbo
to Taiwan from this August, replacing the 777-300ER. It comes as Korean Air,
which had planned to use the A380 between Seoul and Taipei for just two
months, extends it through the year.
Emirates A380 to Taipei
As of January 11th, but still liable to change, Emirates expects to use the
A380 to Taipei from August 1st. It'll run 1x daily. It began using the
double-decker to the Taiwanese city daily in May 2016, ending in March 2020.
It is now scheduled as follows, with all times local:
Dubai to Taipei: EK366, 03:40-16:15 (8h 35m block time)
Taipei to Dubai: EK367, 23:35-04:15+1 (8h 40m)
Click here for Dubai-Taipei flights.
The timings might seem unusual, but they're perfectly normal for Emirates'
Far East flights. The 03:40 departure is fed by vast amounts of arrivals,
primarily from across Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa, which land
around 23:00-01:00. The 04:15 arrival feeds its largest Europe, Middle East,
and North Africa-bound departure bank from 07:00-09:00.
When writing, it is clear that three-class equipment will be deployed on the
route as first class is bookable. There will be 14 first class seats and 76
in business. But it isn't certain how many economy seats there will be, which
dictates which configuration will be used.
An examination of Flightradar24 data for March 2020 indicates that it used
both two-class and three-class equipment. When first was offered, it tended
to use 517-seat A380s, those with 427 economy seats.
Assuming it'll continue to use 517-seaters, it'll replace the three-class,
354-seat 777-300ERs presently deployed. It means that each departure will
have 46% more seats. The number in first will rise from 8 to 14 (+75%),
business from 42 to 76 (+81%), and economy from 304 to 427 (+40%). That's a
lot more seats to sell, especially in premium. Clearly, Emirates is confident.
Where Taipei passengers go
Analysis of Emirates' Taipei operations for 2019, the last normal year, shows
that it had 388,820 roundtrip seats for sale between Dubai and Taipei,
according to OAG data. (I like the '388' bit.) Booking data indicates that it
carried approximately 330,000 passengers, for an average seat load factor of
85%.
About 87% of passengers, a considerable proportion, transited Dubai, while
13% were point-to-point. Extremely few connected over Taipei or bridged both
airports. The most popular transit markets Europe-Dubai-Taipei (~67% of
connecting passengers), North Africa-Dubai-Taipei (~11%), and Middle
East-Dubai-Taipei (~6%), according to booking data.
Istanbul-Dubai-Taipei was number one
The most popular airport-level origin and destination market was Istanbul
Airport-Taipei via Dubai. Flying via Dubai adds a reasonable 14% to the
non-stop distance. Cairo-Taipei was the second most popular market. The rest
of the top ten, in order, were Lisbon, Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen, Barcelona,
Casablanca, Vienna, Madrid, Zagreb, and Prague.
Click here for Istanbul-Taipei flights.
In 2019, Sabiha Gökçen, Zagreb, and Prague had both Emirates and flydubai.
Now, Sabiha Gökçen and Zagreb are exclusively by increasingly important
partner flydubai.
[心得]
文中引述 EK台北航线的客源分析(in 2019)
平均载客率: 85%
旅客组成:
87% 转机客 (经杜拜至第三地)
13% 两地点对点
Europe-Dubai-Taipei :67%
North Africa-Dubai-Taipei:11%
Middle East-Dubai-Taipei : 6%
TPE-DXB-第三地: 10大目的地
1. Istanbul
2. Cairo
3. Lisbon,
4. Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen
5. Barcelona
6. Casablanca,
7. Vienna,
8. Madrid,
9. Zagreb,
10.Prague.
本来还以为搭EK TPE-DXB 的旅客主要是去西欧国家首都或经济主要大城,
看起来反而都是以观光旅游城市为主.
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1F：推 pwseki206: 不知道TK会不会也是转机客为主要客源，感觉两家的欧洲 01/14 22:32
2F：→ pwseki206: 中转应该不少 01/14 22:32
3F：推 danic: 摩洛哥签证不是很麻烦 也这麽多人去喔??!! 01/14 22:52
4F：→ lions402: 土耳其埃及团客呀 拿了一堆机位就便宜卖 01/14 22:57
5F：推 ATR72: 看来好多都是旅行团 01/14 23:01
6F：→ iamkher: 汇丰好像旅行团居多 但通常要去那些点中东转机能到的航 01/14 23:07
7F：→ iamkher: 点也比较多 先排除港转的 01/14 23:07
8F：推 eugene0315: 西欧的那几个大城市有国籍航空都有飞啊 而且就算去香 01/14 23:14
9F：→ eugene0315: 港或曼谷转也不少 不一定会执着要搭阿联酋 01/14 23:14
10F：推 wtchen: 全程不到9小时，商务舱还没睡饱就得起床吃早餐 01/14 23:17
11F：推 dr2915: 可能是西欧那些大城太多竞争，相较之下上榜的这些EK有更多 01/14 23:22
12F：→ dr2915: 其他航空的优势 01/14 23:22
13F：→ dr2915: ^没有的优势 01/14 23:23
14F：→ lions402: 开口行程EK TK优势就跑出来了 01/14 23:26
15F：→ odkmse: 这统计怎麽怪怪的,伊斯坦堡SAW也上榜? 01/14 23:46
16F：推 chewie: 转机票价比较便宜啊 商务客会尽量直飞吧 01/14 23:49
17F：→ chewie: TK的欧洲航点是蛮密的 方便排不同点进出行程 01/14 23:51
18F：推 GaryMatthews: 伊斯坦堡上榜两个也太甚 土鸡国是有这麽好玩? 01/14 23:57
19F：推 ddddd014: 西葡占三名耶，未来有没有机会看到直飞巴赛隆纳 01/15 00:14
20F：推 eugene0315: 去伊斯坦堡又不是只逛伊斯坦堡 番红花城 卡帕多奇亚 01/15 00:37
21F：→ eugene0315: 棉花堡 安塔利亚 特洛伊古城都在土耳其啊 台湾开团 01/15 00:37
22F：→ eugene0315: 的土耳其旅游团不都去这些地方 01/15 00:37
23F：→ dbdudsorj: 神奇的是土航本身有飞伊斯坦堡 01/15 00:50
24F：推 ptt246: 团体很爱阿联酋 01/15 00:55
25F：推 gitans: EK的时段对商务客不是很好 01/15 02:38
26F：推 QUEENSUSAN: 希望伊比利半岛早日有直飞航班了～很有潜力！ 01/15 08:54
27F：→ odkmse: 因为TK的IST进出机位少,票价贵到翻,旅行社才都搭配EK转机 01/15 10:20
28F：→ odkmse: 之前BR飞IST补足土耳其旅行团票,但77W太大只,本来BR想搭配 01/15 10:23
29F：→ odkmse: TK转欧陆,结果TK恶搞欧陆票价,BR载不满又遇到伪政变就停飞 01/15 10:25
30F：推 yoshilin: 公司出钱一定是直飞 01/15 12:06
31F：→ yoshilin: 土耳其旅行团都会再多加杜拜一日游 01/15 12:08
32F：推 chenyei: 摩洛哥进榜感觉很不可思议 01/15 12:39
33F：推 mukuro: 其实很棒，中东旅游对台湾客较有新鲜感 01/15 12:46
34F：→ mukuro: 再搭配上A380这个机型，很有吸引力 01/15 12:46
35F：推 doraemon129K: TK的航点数基本上远多於EK，很多欧洲的2、3线城市 01/15 12:58
36F：→ doraemon129K: 都有飞 01/15 12:58
37F：→ doraemon129K: 但TK人品就… 01/15 12:58
38F：推 ayutakako: 对一般民众来说中东没有什麽吸引力，也没在管机型的XD 01/15 13:27
39F：→ lions402: 只有便宜才是吸引力 谁管你A380还是77W 01/15 13:32
40F：推 JackLee5566: 跪求直飞BCN 超好玩 01/15 13:57
41F：推 dunkylu: 绝大多数民众都是只看价格，机型真的不重要 01/15 16:06
持台湾护照进摩洛哥必须慎选航空公司,
很多人搭其他航空持签证核准函但在机场被某些航空拒绝登机的情事时有所闻.
相较之下,搭Emirates 进摩洛哥算是还没(or很少)听说有被拒登机的案例,价格也还ok.
当然啦,够力的旅行社甚至可以帮旅客协助注记 OK (to) Board.
不过,就算有 OK (to) Board, 也无法100%保证登机不被刁难.
找摩洛哥当地旅行社协助办理落地签并於航空公司注记 OK Board 算是比较保险的方式.
https://www.backpackers.com.tw/forum/showthread.php?t=10225152
https://www.backpackers.com.tw/forum/showthread.php?t=10026316
※ 编辑: nyrnu (36.228.137.23 台湾), 01/15/2023 17:30:09
42F：推 whocare96: Emirates以商务舱来说，380跟777差蛮多的 01/15 18:47
43F：推 leofu100: 同意who大 01/15 19:05
44F：→ leofu100: 777 商务舱2-3-2 ….. 01/15 19:05
45F：→ leofu100: 正常都1-2-1吧…… 01/15 19:06
46F：推 Andosinjo: 摩洛哥好玩啊！不过不喜欢飞A380，EK从桃园都晚上飞， 01/16 13:34
47F：→ Andosinjo: 上机要好久… 01/16 13:34
48F：推 kikkansya: 旅行团走EK是把搭380也拿来在行程内大书特书 01/16 16:11
49F：→ lions402: 行程表当然要多塞点废话充版面 酷航的行程也要大写787 01/16 16:28
50F：推 Jared9527: 是不是A380真的太重要了，77W商务舱完全不能比。 01/17 15:48
51F：推 js52666: 行程表都会打搭乘巨无霸豪华客机前往XX 01/17 18:47
52F：推 suitup: 准备被777吃死 01/17 18:52
53F：推 leopika: 行程表里面去台场看钢弹也要大书特书成钢弹超人骑士 01/18 14:04
54F：推 A320neo: 推 分享OD 02/05 14:13