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原文:http://tinyurl.com/yve6s8 投球的动作我不是很熟,有些是大概能体会,但是不知道怎麽翻比较好, 有些是不太懂,如果我翻的有问题,帮忙指正一下,感谢感谢~ 原文当中有一些影片,我有放上影片的连结,不过用BBS看...还是比较辛苦 :p ------ 正文开始 -------- Bringin’ Some Serious Cheese: Rich Harden (抱歉,不知道Serious Cheese是啥意思 =.=) by Carlos Gomez March 15, 2007 Mid to high 90s fastball, slider, changeup, spuckle (thanks to Adam Melhuse for that one). Rich Harden's stuff can and will be described as: a) nasty b) dirty c) filthy d) all of the above 高达95麦的速球、滑球、变速球、spuckle(感谢Adam Melhuse创的新名词。 来源:http://tinyurl.com/yuswhc) 有钱人硬起来的投球能力将可以用下列几项来形容: a) 恶心的 b) 下流的 c) 邪恶的 d) 以上皆是 However, Rich Harden comes with the "When healthy" label. I'm not going to go into detail about his injury woes. Besides reviewing his mechanical efficiency, what I would like to do is to attempt to answer the question- Are there any aspects of his mechanics that makes him more injury prone than the average pitcher? 但是,有钱人硬起来被贴上了"什麽时候可以健健康康"的标签,我不打算详述他的 伤病史,而是要检视他投球机制的效率,我想做的是回答这个问题--是不是他投球机制 的哪部份,使得他比一般的投手有容易受伤的倾向? Let's try to find out. 咱们来找出原因吧。 http://swingtraining.net/Carlos/Harden/Harden-full.gif
First a quick note: The above clips are synchronized to release. You might notice that, on the side shot (right), Harden is further along into his delivery. Harden from the center field camera (left) will catch up to him later on in his delivery. There is a simple reason for this. The side shot is a warmup pitch. The first pitch is a game speed fastball. 首先,一个快速的注解:上面的影片,是已经做过同步的处理。应该注意的是,在从 侧面拍的影片(右边),是按照有钱人硬起来的投球动作撷取的,从中外野方向拍摄的 角度(左边),是从他投球动作中的後半部撷取的。其中只因为一个原因,侧面拍摄的 是热身动作,左边的那个是比赛中的快速球的动作。 Tempo 出手的速度 I mention tempo quite a bit in my evaluations. As a quick and dirty reference, I count the number of frames it takes a pitcher to go from top of the knee lift to release. As a general rule, "the quicker the better." Assuming that number one's fastball above has better velocity than number two, we can see Harden controlling the velocity of his fastball by the effort he puts on the pitch. Effort and tempo go hand in hand for the most part. More effort usually equals quicker tempo, as we see on the clip above. That said, I'd like to compare apples to apples. Here's a clip of Harden's game speed fastball compared with Matt Cain's game-speed fastball. 在我之前的评估当中,提过一些关於出手速度的论调,做一个简单的回顾,我计 算投手从抬腿到最高点到出手之间所花费的时间,有一个通则,越快越好。假设 上方的第一个影片的球速比第二个快,我们可以看到有钱人硬起靠着施力在球上 面,来控制他的球速,大部分的情况下,力道和出手速度是息息相关的,越用力 通常等於越快的出手速度,如同我们看上面的影片一般。我想以类似的投手来做 一下比较,接下来的影片,是比较有钱人硬起来的比赛中速球和Matt Cain的比赛 中速球。 http://swingtraining.net/Carlos/Harden/Harden-Cain-tempocomp.gif
I have to admit. This caught me by surprise. Compared to many power pitchers, Harden is actually pretty slow from top of the knee lift to release. I had to give him a 5-6 frame head start so that both release at the same time. 我必须承认,这发现让我感到惊讶。比较过许多的强力投手,有钱人硬起来在从 抬腿到最高点到出手之间的速度,真的伤当慢,我必须去掉开头的五、六张画 面,才能让两个画面同步。 So, how does he throw so hard? We'll get back to this one later. 那麽,他是怎麽硬起来的呢?(呃....不好意思,太西斯了...他是怎麽丢那麽快 的呢?)我们之後再回来讨论这个。 Arm Action 手臂的动作 I'm sorry to say this, but I'm not a big fan of it. If I can properly recall a former pitcher's arm action, it has a Billy Koch-ish element to it that I don't really like. Here's some more video.... 我很抱歉地说,我不怎麽喜欢这样的动作。如果我印象没错的话,这手臂的动作 带有一点Billy Koch的味道,而我并不喜欢,这边有些其他的影片... http://swingtraining.net/Carlos/Harden/Harden-armaction.gif
These 12 frames show the part of his arm action I don't like. A couple of things... 这12个连续画面秀出他部份的手臂动作,有几点是我不喜欢的... 1) If I were to draw a straight line connecting his elbow to the wrist, do you see how his wrist is cocked upwards with the ball "higher" than that line? Check out the Harden-Cain clip above and focus on Matt Cain's arm action. Notice the difference? I like Cain's MUCH more because the elbow "picks the ball up." In Harden's case, the ball and wrist pick the elbow up. 1) 假如我划一条直线,从他的手肘连到手腕,你有看到他的手腕动作,是拿着 球往上翘,高过那条直线吗?看看上面有钱人硬起来和Cain的影片,并且注意 Matt Cain的手臂动作,注意到差异了吗?我比较喜欢Cain的动作,因为他用 手肘把球抬起来,而有钱人硬起来的情况是,球和手腕把手肘抬起来。(想不出 更好的翻译,应该是说他的手腕上翘,导致动作比较僵硬、别扭吧?!) 2) His arm seems to straighten out on the way back. I prefer a shorter arm action. Again, focus on Matt Cain. See how Cain maintains a slight bend on his elbow on the way back? 2) 他的手臂在向後绕臂的时候直直地伸出去,我比较喜欢小一点的手臂动作, 再一次,注意Matt Cain,看到Cain怎麽保持稍微弯曲的手肘向後绕臂的吗? It's not all bad, though. Here's the REALLY good part of his arm action. 当然,不全然是糟糕的,这里有伤当棒的手臂动作。 http://swingtraining.net/Carlos/Harden/Harden-goodarm.gif
That's REALLY quick. How does he get his arm to be that quick? 伤当的快速,他是怎麽让他的手臂挥动地那麽快啊? Lower Body 下半身 Let's talk about the absolutely unbelievable part of his lower body action. 咱们来谈谈关於那完全不可思议的下半身动作。(这是清新的绿帽版,请勿想 歪....A_A) http://swingtraining.net/Carlos/Harden/Harden-lowerbody.gif
Focus on his left foot as an indicator. See how his foot picks up speed into footplant from around frame three? That is a STUPID aggressive "stepover," and I love it. I'm not going to cover the "stepover" again, but it assists in getting your hips to rotate quickly. What he does here is one of the main reasons that he is able to accelerate the arm as quickly as it needs to in order to throw a baseball over 95 MPH. 注意到他的左脚像是个指标,大约从第三个连续画面的地方开始,到前脚踏地, 看他如何用脚获得速度,那是一个蠢得有力的跨步,但是我喜欢。我不打算再介 绍跨步的细节,但是这个动作帮助让你的屁屁可以快速转动,他在这影片所作的 动作,就是能让他加速他的手臂,达到丢出超过95麦球速的主要原因之一。 WOW! Check out the separation between upper and lower body. See the tension build around his midsection as his lower body turns while his upper body stays closed? Outstanding stuff... 哇!看看那上半身和下半身之间,看当他转动下半身的时候,在身体中间部位 造成的紧绷,然而同时上半身保持着封闭的状态,厉害... Front side/glove 前半部/带手套的手 I'm not going to talk about this too much. Refer to the first video. He's decently good in this department. He does "firm up" the glove as he gets ready to release, but there's just something missing there. It just doesn't look good (I'd like the glove to be up more) but the main issues are covered. His lead elbow is out in front as is his glove. There's a slight pull of the lead shoulder going on there. Not bad, not outstanding. 我不打算对这部份说太多,看回第一个影片。他在这个部份伤当地好,他确实 稳固着手套的位置,当他准备出手的时候,但是还是有一些缺失,这部份只是 看起来不够好而已(我会喜欢手套再抬高一点),不过重点已经有做到。His lead elbow is out in front as is his glove. There's a slight pull of the lead shoulder going on there.(不会翻这两句 >.<) 不差,也不算出色。 Conclusions 结论 So are there any aspects of his mechanics that makes him more injury prone than the average pitcher? 所以,有哪个部份的投球机制使得他比一般投手更容易受伤吗? 1)Rich Harden isn't an average pitcher. Outstanding fastball velocities come with higher force requirements on the ball. His body/arm are responsible for such forces. 1) 有钱人硬起来不是一般的投手。(所以结论是没结论吗? =.=) 出色的球速伴 随着需要更大的力量施加在球上,他的身体和手臂得负担起这样的力量。 2)And to answer the question above... I am not sure, but I do have a theory and a recommendation. 2) 至於回答上面的问题...我没那麽肯定,不过有个理论和建议。 It seems to me that Harden is a believer/practitioner of a few modern day mechanics' preachings that I don't particularly care for: "Tall and Fall" and "get to the balance point." It seems to me that while Harden does an outstanding job of creating/transferring energy into the ball, he does it too late. He waits too long to begin the throwing process. I'd like him to spread the force out over a slightly longer period of time. Rather than tell him to speed his body up, here's the adjustment I'd like to see from him. This is the last video, I promise... http://swingtraining.net/Carlos/Harden/Harden-Lincecum-lead.gif
在我看来,有钱人硬起来是现代投球力学鼓吹,但我不那麽在意的"Tall and Fall"和"get to the balance point"实践者,对我来说,虽然有钱人硬起来在产生 和转移力量到球上面,这件事做的很出色,但是他开始的太晚了,他等太久才 开始他的投球流程,我想要他去分散一点力量,把施力的时间拉稍微长一点, 比起告诉他去加速投球的动作,这样的调整是我比较想在他身上看到的, 这个是最後一段影片,我保证... Mr. Harden: Forget "getting to the balance position and then going forward." You're stopping your momentum by doing so. See how Lincecum above is drifting forward slightly before he's gotten to the top of his knee lift? He has begun applying force sooner. Do I think this is THE answer? I'm smart enough to realize that I don't have all the answers. However, I DO believe that this adjustment will lessen the impact (on his body)of creating all that force in such a short period of time. 有钱人硬起来先生,忘记"保持平衡的姿势然後身体往前送"这件事,你这样做 正好阻止了你的冲劲。看到上面的Lincecum,如何在在他抬腿到最高点之前, 身体一直稍微地往前倾吗?他更早的时间点就开始施展力量了。我认为这就是 那个问题的答案吗?我有自知之明地知道我没有所有问题的答案,然而,我 确实相信这样的调整,将会减轻在短时间内产生所有的力量,对於他身体上的 影响。 Of course, it then becomes a question of whether or not the A's or Rich Harden are willing to make that adjustment. Do the A's risk messing him up by tinkering with his mechanics? Absolutely. Here's hoping that Rich Harden strengthened his body over the offseason to handle such forces and that mechanical changes aren't necessary. From a fan's point-of-view, here's hoping that he stays healthy over the rest of his career. He could be something special. 当然,这就变成一个问题,绿帽或是有钱人硬起来是否愿意去做这样的修正, 绿帽会冒着搞砸的风险,去矫正他的投球机制吗?肯定不会。在这里,希望 有钱人硬起来在非季赛时间,强化他的身体到足以负担这样的力量,那改变 投球机制就不是那麽必要。以身为一个球迷的观点,希望他可以在接下来的 球员身涯保持健康,他会是个特别的投手。 --



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1F:推 LedZeppelin:辛苦了, 推一个 03/15 22:46
※ 编辑: youngways 来自: 219.84.85.114 (03/15 22:48)
2F:推 sabathia:推 03/15 22:49
3F:推 lannkyle:good job 03/15 22:50
※ 编辑: youngways 来自: 219.84.85.114 (03/15 23:03) 我好像修掉谁的推文,Sorry... ※ 编辑: youngways 来自: 219.84.85.114 (03/15 23:04)
4F:推 whatisthis:好文 也能当练习投球的指标 真是好文....^_^b 03/15 23:16
5F:推 Levi:推 03/15 23:27
6F:推 AthrunZala:大推~~~ 03/15 23:39
7F:推 A1pha:推推推!!! 专业好文~ 03/16 00:06
8F:推 A1pha:严重的起司我记得是称赞他投球内容很好的意思 03/16 00:11
9F:→ A1pha:和第一段的那些形容词满像的XD 只是不知道典故== 03/16 00:12
10F:→ A1pha:其实棒球有很多怪怪的用语的典故我都不清处QQ 03/16 00:12
11F:→ A1pha:像是Uncle Charlie指曲球 Horn指内野区...等等 03/16 00:13
12F:推 HtoO2:好文~借转 03/16 01:04
HtoO2:转录至看板 PlayBaseball 03/16 01:05
13F:推 wannastop:好像修到我XD 没差 好文推 03/16 01:54
14F:推 rosemars:大推! 不可多得的好文! 跟好翻译! 03/16 02:07
15F:推 hobbit7416:推~~~ 辛苦啦 清新 健康 专业 绿帽版 03/16 08:36
16F:推 sneeze:today 3.2IP 9K!!!! 03/16 09:29
17F:推 Hans14:Tim Lincecum的腿 03/16 09:29
18F:推 Athletic:感谢翻译 希望绿帽板好文及人气越来越旺 03/16 13:10
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