作者linapiyo (回憶的沙漏)
看板TeachEnglish
標題[問題] 請教一個主動詞一致的問題(who)
時間Tue Mar 8 23:26:29 2011
問個「超級翰將」講義第一冊碰到的文法問題
Who is/are Tom and John playing with?
我覺得是are，因為主詞明顯是Tom and John,
那個who是經由Wh-movement (學過syntax的老師就知道了，囧)才到前面的，
應該是受詞，可以寫成whom。
但是講義寫is，學校也有老師說答案是is...
為什麼?
Who are you talking about 的are,
不也是因為you 嗎？也不會因為who 變成is吧...@@
覺得要用is的老師
理由不外乎說who是個不知道是單數還是複數的主詞
所以要視為單數
我覺得如果說who視為單數的話，
應該也要是who當主詞的時候，
例如下一句
Who is playing with John and Tom?
至於是不是主詞，把它放在間接問句就知道了...
1 I was wondering [Who Tom and John "are" playing with.]
這句用is明顯是不行的，可知John and Tom才是主詞。
2 I was wondering [Who is playing with John and Tom.]
這句不能用are,因為這句who是主詞，
在不知道是誰的情況下視為單數。
以上是我的分析
所以我認為
Who is/are Tom and John playing with?
應該用are才對
應該是講義寫錯了...
不知道各位老師的意見如何？
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1F：推 thisismark:are + 1 03/09 00:13
2F：推 stukpe: are + 1 03/09 00:23
3F：推 callcallpp:are+1 03/09 09:16
4F：推 Adlay:同意原PO的分析 03/09 10:23
5F：→ linapiyo:真是感動...終於有人看法跟我一樣了(泣)... 03/09 12:10
6F：→ linapiyo:只是資深老師也很堅持啊...真不知怎麼開口...(囧rz) 03/09 12:10
7F：推 twten22:are +1 03/09 18:43
8F：推 hohehehohehe:請問一下~原波所說的 I was wondering [Who is 03/09 22:01
9F：→ hohehehohehe: playing with John and Tom 文法是正確的嗎? 03/09 22:02
10F：推 hohehehohehe:因為我想說who後面是不是該倒裝? 03/09 22:04
11F：→ hohehehohehe:可是我又不知這句該如何倒裝?@@ 03/09 22:04
12F：→ linapiyo:回H大：其實您的問題正是現在困擾許多國中生的問題 03/09 23:01
13F：→ linapiyo:我以前當學生時也曾問呢！ 03/09 23:02
14F：→ linapiyo:我都是這樣教學生的：wh-片語領導的名詞子句 03/09 23:02
15F：→ linapiyo:須遵循Wh-+S+V的形式，所以只要找出一個句子的主詞與動詞 03/09 23:02
16F：→ linapiyo:一定可以寫出正確的名詞子句 03/09 23:02
17F：→ linapiyo:Who is playing with John and Tom? 03/09 23:03
18F：→ linapiyo:您的回答會是下列哪句? 03/09 23:03
19F：→ linapiyo:1 Mary is playing with John and Tom. 03/09 23:03
20F：→ linapiyo:2 John and Tom are playing with Mary. 03/09 23:03
21F：→ linapiyo:我想最針對問句的回答方式應該是1吧！ 03/09 23:04
22F：→ linapiyo:所以可知原問句who是主詞，寫成間接問句時 03/09 23:04
23F：→ linapiyo:Wh = who 主詞= 還是who 動詞= is 03/09 23:04
24F：→ linapiyo:所以I was wondering [Who is playing with John and Tom 03/09 23:04
25F：→ linapiyo:是正確的寫法，至於你說的主動詞倒裝很困擾@@ 03/09 23:05
26F：→ linapiyo:我整理如下，譬如說合併以下兩句 03/09 23:05
27F：→ linapiyo:I was wondering...和 Who does John love? 03/09 23:05
28F：→ linapiyo:分析後句，因為who本是John的受詞，他不是主詞 03/09 23:05
29F：→ linapiyo:主詞是John,動詞是love，正解為,根據 Wh+S+V 03/09 23:06
30F：→ linapiyo:I was wondering who John loves. 03/09 23:06
31F：→ linapiyo:比較下句，一樣合併兩句 03/09 23:06
32F：→ linapiyo:I was wondering...Who loves John? 03/09 23:06
33F：→ linapiyo:分析後句，主詞你覺得是who還是John? 03/09 23:07
34F：→ linapiyo:不知道的話趕快想想你怎麼回答 03/09 23:07
35F：→ linapiyo:1 Mary loves John. 03/09 23:07
36F：→ linapiyo:2 John loves Mary. 03/09 23:07
37F：→ linapiyo:我想答案會是1吧！Mary既為主詞，所以該句 03/09 23:07
38F：→ linapiyo:Who loves John? 的who也應是主詞囉！ 03/09 23:08
39F：→ linapiyo:根據wh +S+V 之公式，wh就是who, 03/09 23:08
40F：→ linapiyo:主詞...還是who! 動詞loves 03/09 23:08
41F：→ linapiyo:正解應為 I was wondering who loves John. 03/09 23:08
42F：→ linapiyo:超長篇大論啊！希望能讓您明白@@ 03/09 23:09
43F：→ linapiyo:其實這個問題，我想很多第一志願的學生也不太清楚呢！ 03/09 23:09
44F：→ linapiyo:上面打錯@@"因為who本是love的受詞" 03/09 23:12
45F：→ linapiyo:有時候who後面看起來沒有倒裝的感覺， 03/09 23:27
46F：→ linapiyo:因為who就是主詞的關係...隨堂測驗！ 03/09 23:27
47F：→ linapiyo:I want to know...Who is in the living room? 03/09 23:28
48F：→ linapiyo:因為你會回答Mary is in the living room. who是主詞 03/09 23:28
49F：→ linapiyo:得證！答案就大膽回答 03/09 23:28
50F：→ linapiyo:I want to know Who is in the living room. 03/09 23:29
51F：→ linapiyo:如果硬要倒裝，就會出現 03/09 23:29
52F：→ linapiyo:I want to know who in the living room is了 03/09 23:29
53F：→ linapiyo:這真是個可怕的句子@@(囧rz) 03/09 23:29
54F：推 jimvery:L大引導有方，教學相長，拍個手！！！ 03/13 10:27
55F：推 blache:are +1 (L大用wh-movement的觀點解釋，太棒了) 03/14 02:21
56F：→ linapiyo:樓上B大也是念語言學的同伴呢~話說L大讓我想到死亡筆記本 03/14 10:51
57F：推 n7552555:我的看法是I was wondering (that)+ NP 如果不把that這個 03/21 13:46
58F：→ n7552555:complementizer省略掉的話 學生應該比較能理解 03/21 13:47
59F：推 n7552555:我後來想想 其實第一句 跟第二句的結構好像不太 一樣 03/21 14:23
60F：→ n7552555:第一句是的Ｃ是who 第二句的Ｃ是that但省略掉了 03/21 14:30
61F：→ n7552555:然後第一句的who其實就是關係代名詞 只是先行詞省略 03/21 14:38
62F：→ n7552555:先行詞其實就是the person 因為who的先行詞只能用人 03/21 14:41
63F：→ n7552555:因為母語人士知道 who/whom一定指人 所以先行詞就省了 03/21 14:50
64F：→ n7552555:我搞混了＠＠應該是二句都省略了that跟先行詞 03/21 15:07
65F：推 n7552555:至於本文的問題 一定是用are agreement所要看的本來 03/21 15:13
66F：→ n7552555:本來就是根據 Head NP(數狀圖裡最上層的ＮＰ)來做變化 03/21 15:14
67F：→ n7552555:Ex: the woman who has two children "is" 03/21 15:16
68F：推 n7552555:只能說有些老師只會靠死背文法書來教文法 才會堅持是is 03/21 15:19