※ 引述《TheZealot (TheZealot)》之銘言： : ※ 引述《Graveland (Right where it belongs)》之銘言： : : NWOBHM.Thrash.Speed的樂風當時已經發展成熟,你要說這些前驅樂團是 : : Black Metal當然也行,不過如果在Black Metal前面加上他的音樂風格不是更加完整嗎? : : ie.Black/Speed Metal之類的... : 我有否定Venom是speed嗎？我只說Venom也是Black吧？ : 你講的這些不就是我之前說的？ : 這個詞根本不是我發明的，不信你去找八零年代的搖滾雜誌來翻翻 : : 用啟發性樂團來形容更好 : : 而Bathory和Mayhem的風格早期和後來的風格是很不同的, : : 後來的風格不是就比較符合現代黑金屬的模樣嗎~~? : 除了Bathory後期轉為Viking外，這兩團打從一開始就被稱為黑金 : 只因為現在有固定的風格，所以就可以以今非古？ : 那我可不可以以古非今地說現代黑金都是雜種？ : 我在爭論的從來就不是品味問題，而是史實罷了。 : : 嗯....這個名詞的產生,我就不否認啦.Venom的Black Metal專輯的確是首先提出了 : : Black Metal這個名詞,不過我還是偏好比較精確的敘述出內涵,如Black/Speed(或NWOBHM) : : Metal,至少可以更能讓人了解音樂的內容.... : 這就離題了，我本來就不反對能讓人更了解音樂內容的分類， : 因此才更要反對自作主張地否定歷史。 為補離題,特偷文修正 原文摘錄一段,取自http://www.metalcrypt.com/genresframe.php This is all Venom's fault. In 1982 they released their second album, entitled "Black Metal". No one would have called it a landmark release, but it was the seed of one of metal's most prolific genres. Modern Black Metal claims descent from Venom, Bathory, Celtic Frost, and to a lesser degree Mercyful Fate. The origin of the sound we now call Black Metal was born in 1987 with Mayhem's first release "The Deathcrush". The band took the raw, aggressive riffs of Celtic Frost and Venom, the shrieking vocals of Bathory, and the deeply satanic stance of all three to produce a new sound. By the early to mid 90s the sound became almost standardized, and now when we say Black Metal we mean a specific sound: fast tremolo riffing, blasting drums, and satanic lyrics delivered in a high-pitched shriek. There are endless variations, but that is the basic style. -- http://www.wretch.cc/blog/eruption --

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