作者vvmafwcx (vvmafwcx)
看板ONE_OK_ROCK
標題[心得] 20 years journey IMO
時間Sun Dec 22 16:29:08 2024
Let me share some honest thoughts:
If they truly want to make a name for themselves overseas and gain recognition
in the international market, there’s more to it than just excelling in conce
rts. For instance, increasing their presence in INTERNATIONAL MAGAZINES and TV
SHOWS is crucial. Their choice of mainstream pop music style isn’t the issue
; the challenge lies in establishing themselves as a band in this market and m
aintaining long-term attention. To do so, they’ll need even more staying powe
r compared to bands from Western countries.
Because they come from Asia, many might project their understanding of Japan o
r their love for anime culture onto them. However, as I see it, they were once
known for their rebellious attitude in Japan’s rock music scene—an attitude
that contrasts sharply with how most people perceive them now. They were neve
r fond of being compared to Japan’s mainstream music; rather, they preferred
to create the kind of music they truly wanted and pursue their own path. This
is my take on their collaboration with Sonic. It’s not that there’s anything
wrong with liking anime, but I’m still looking forward to seeing what their
next collaboration with other anime characters will look like.
Therefore, their frequency and choice of appearances in international media wi
ll greatly influence the direction of their overseas market strategy and their
ability to gain attention. The scariest shortcut is undoubtedly the MEDIA. I
believe this was a crucial resource their previous label failed to provide, wh
ich hindered their ability to establish a stronger foothold in the U.S. market
. As a label representing an Asian band, they should have had better resources
and knowledge to support them, rather than comparing them to bands under othe
r labels and downplaying their uniqueness.
Moreover, there might have been communication issues during the album producti
on process. For example, members who are less fluent in English may not have b
een able to fully showcase their talents in the production. This is why the ra
w groove we heard in Deeper Deeper (a song written by Tomoya and Ryota) is som
ething we rarely hear in their albums anymore—even though the live performanc
es give a completely different auditory experience.
From my understanding, anyone who listens to ONE OK ROCK likely has some level
of appreciation for Japanese bands. In their history, it was undoubtedly the
Japanese audience that brought them to the Budokan, which is why we can still
buy that DVD today. Back then, their listeners must have also had some knowled
ge of Japan’s entertainment scene to choose and support them, leading to thei
r rise to the Yokohama Arena and becoming one of Japan’s most popular bands a
t the time.
Because of their hard work and talent, they kept breaking barriers, even with
many senior bands ahead of them (e.g., Pay Money to My Pain, ELLEGARDEN). They
managed to earn recognition from these pioneers in the music scene. This jour
ney wasn’t just about expanding their market through overseas performances; i
t proved that they aren’t just J-ROCK—they are ONE OK ROCK.
Sometimes I wonder what “overseas” really means to them. Ten years ago, the
music they made had already achieved international success, so I don’t unders
tand why they didn’t continue making that kind of music. If “overseas” to t
hem simply means collaborating with foreign artists, then in this day and age,
everyone is essentially an international artist. I feel like this question is
n’t something I could ask Taka—maybe asking Toru would make more sense. I ju
st wanted to highlight that Toru’s role in music production is just as signif
icant as Taka’s, but there are rarely opportunities to interview him, whether
in Japanese or English.
Considering Japanese TV programs, I think that in the past, when they appeared
on shows like band-related variety programs or radio shows, it was always abo
ut the interaction of the whole band. It wasn’t like now, where only Taka doe
s all the explaining and speaking on programs. This is one of the reasons I be
lieve the changes in the industry have silently influenced them. Well, the rea
son I’m saying all this is because they’re about to establish their own LABE
L in JAPAN, and all of this will likely become part of their plan. It’s a bra
nd-new and completely different challenge for them.
Plus, maybe their past approach of collaborating with many different people he
lped them expand their market, but I think they now need a completely new dire
ction in their production. Previously, they held the VS concert with My First
Story at Tokyo Dome under the name of their independent label, 10969inc. I bel
ieve this series of new projects will give us an entirely different experience
compared to everything they’ve done with other companies and labels, the exc
iting part is that all these experiences will be condensed into their brand-ne
w venture. Naturally, we won’t have to question anymore whether they are stil
l themselves.
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1F:推 nanosoftGG : 確實OOR在媒體的能見度真的沒很高,這真的需要改善 12/22 18:23
2F:→ nanosoftGG : 但很大一部分是TAKA也不太想上媒體 12/22 18:24
3F:推 ASKAmkII : 有種「引領音樂是絕對的主流沒錯」,但除了他們自己 12/22 21:49
4F:→ ASKAmkII : 的社群媒體之外,其實很難得知,或說認識更多的他 12/22 21:50
5F:→ ASKAmkII : 們的感覺 12/22 21:51
6F:→ vvmafwcx : Taka不想上的話換Toru上咧(誤 12/22 23:14
9F:→ vvmafwcx : 大大這個info真沒看過 看來DC上都在自欺欺人 12/23 15:30
10F:→ fddk : 在推(X)上看過;話說RAD真是挺厲害的 12/23 15:48
11F:推 ASKAmkII : 會不會是因為前一張專輯有點掉粉 12/23 18:34
12F:→ ASKAmkII : 因為我身邊還真的有因為前一張掉粉,而且完全沒有 12/23 18:35
13F:→ ASKAmkII : 興趣聽Luxury Disease的朋友 12/23 18:35
14F:推 taiwanstrike: 樓上 我也有朋友是這樣 我自己也不是很喜歡EOTS那 12/24 03:02
15F:→ taiwanstrike: 張就是了 12/24 03:03
16F:推 ASKAmkII : 榜單上讓我感到很好奇的是 Radwimps 應該是有一段 12/24 08:12
17F:→ ASKAmkII : 時間沒有新專輯了,卻還有前十,是否是因為他們製作 12/24 08:13
18F:→ ASKAmkII : 了不少原聲帶的緣故(例如我常用天氣之子OST當工作 12/24 08:14
19F:→ ASKAmkII : 背景音樂) 12/24 08:14
20F:→ vvmafwcx : 掉出榜單後可以開始製作非主流作品了吧笑 12/24 12:12
21F:→ fddk : 剛好友看到yt做這個題目、似乎是印度貢獻不少RAD的 12/26 01:19
22F:→ fddk : 剛好有* 只是原因不明XD 12/26 01:26
23F:→ vvmafwcx : 這串是可以繼續討論的嗎? 12/26 19:04
24F:→ vvmafwcx : 前幾年SS他們上台的那個口罩爭議有人知道是甚麼狀況 12/26 19:05
25F:→ vvmafwcx : 嗎?(summer sonic 12/26 19:06
26F:→ fddk : 爭議?是說Taka會照樣煽動觀眾嗎 12/26 19:48
27F:→ fddk : 雖然禁止出聲但他演出的時候還是會叫大家唱啊喊的 12/26 19:50
28F:→ fddk : 不過他也有說大家不用喊、他只是想照正常表演XD 12/26 19:57
29F:→ vvmafwcx : 我也覺得是為了表演、日本國內的輿論好像很多... 12/26 20:26
30F:→ vvmafwcx : 這一定有影響到當時新專輯的宣傳吧 12/26 20:26
31F:→ fddk : 那他出來講政治應該也有XD 12/26 21:20
32F:→ vvmafwcx : 叛逆中年人xD 12/27 06:55
33F:→ vvmafwcx : 看到這篇被推波到別的地方、、 01/04 19:44
34F:→ vvmafwcx : 說明一下這個是跟OOR海外論壇一起討論出來的 01/04 19:45