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※ 引述《vegas (買雞頭貴過買松阪牛?)》之銘言: : In Santana's case, the reason Mets signed him with a fat contract is not : because Mets want a contract long and big but because Santana had full NTC : (no-trade clasue) to void any possible deal that includes him. Mets has to : offer a good enough contract to persuade Santana to give up his NTC to : complete the deal. : : : : -- : 推 kafen:from Mets' perspective, they might not want to sigh such 07/05 15:15 : → kafen:a huge contract for that long. So you are right. But 07/05 15:16 : → kafen:they did not want to simply rent Santana for 1 yr either 07/05 15:17 : → kafen:especially after giving up that much farm talent 07/05 15:17 Let me put it this way. Now, think of two Johan Santana on the trading block, one with NTC, the other without. If other things being equal, who will be of greater value on trading market? Its the one without NTC that would cause the team more prospect to trade for. Why? because I could get that Santana without his consent and I could still negotiate for a contract extension after I got him when no other team can talk to him. Lets refresh our memory how Santana's teammate Beltran joined Mets. Beltran was first traded to Astros for a few month when Astro was contending. Technically, Astros rents Beltran for months. At the end of the season, Mets outbid other teams, including Astros, in Boras' auction and signed Beltran to a big contract. So, did Astros try to extend Beltran's contract? I think they probably did. But Boras would not take that offer. To Beltran's best interest, he should test the FA market first an take the biggest offer he got. What I am trying to say is that, when a player was put on trading block at the last year of his contract, NTC matters. In Santana's case, he could decide not to wave his NTC and played for Twins for a few more months and then test FA market to see the crazy GMs outbiding each other. So, whether or not a team would sign the trade-in to longterm depends on the price and on the attitude of the player, not on how mych talent they gave up. e and --



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1F:推 qk123:推,這串討論不錯看 07/05 15:54
2F:推 jayin07:老實說我比較傾向送出很多農場卻又無法留下大物.__. 07/05 15:58
3F:→ jayin07:是簽長約的其中一個因素:$ 07/05 15:59
4F:→ jayin07:把prospects送出去 卻無法留下Santana//Sabathia 07/05 16:00
5F:→ jayin07:有點得不償失的感覺,不管怎樣還是要留下來。 07/05 16:01
6F:推 qazwd:bbs還是適合中文 英文隨便幾個字都要推好幾行 lol 07/05 16:33







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