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  金鶯隊的總教練Buck Sowalter 不滿的表示: 洋基抱怨金鶯不在週五排雙重賽, 而讓洋基犠牲原本9月8日與金鶯比一場,是對悲劇自殺過世的前賽揚投手金鶯隊的 Mike Flanagan不敬。他表示: "據我瞭解,洋基隊是在不到24小時前連絡Andy (MacPhail)的。首先,坦白來說, 我覺得這樣的種反應,是對過世的Flanny有點不敬,讓我覺得不好受,讓金鶯球團 來難過之餘,還要處理洋基的抱怨。想想當初四月因雨延賽時,洋基隊只通知我們 什麼時候補賽,我們就什麼時候比賽。" "我知道有時候是沒有人在意我們的意見。洋基覺得除了金鶯以外,其他隊都在週五 先作雙重賽,根本不該勞煩洋基9月8日再來補賽,這樣根本不是用棒球的觀點來作 補賽的決定。我覺得這麼是有點虛偽,但我不會一直在意這件事。洋基說金鶯該如 何作才是對得起洋基球團和洋基的球迷,這跟我個人一點關係都沒有。我想告訴你 的是我們只會儘全力去作,對得起金鶯球團和金鶯球迷的事情。我也希望洋基隊對 得起自己球團和洋基迷就夠了。" "有些人還建議將補賽改到他們主場去比賽,然後會給我們部份門票的收入。這話是 挺有趣的,我們也知道這邊會有很多洋基球迷來看球賽,所以該有不同的考量。我 也確認球團已經考慮到所有的事情,我希望未來不會發生相同的事了。如果洋基可 以停止抱怨好好想想這件事,未來再發生相同的事,就不會只想到自己,也會有不 同的考量了。" "要我算了注意比賽就行了?很多人根本不在意我們這種弱小球隊的意見,我們也在 打棒球,發生一些事時,我們也會有不同的考量,想想怎麼才是對我們球迷最好的。 什麼才是球隊在主客場間來回,對金鶯球員的旅程和吃宿等問題是最好的...如果下 雨或下雪,該一天打18局或9局?" "我希望我們有一天也可能像洋基一樣有競爭力。我尊重他們本季可以打那麼好,打 得好的人說話就比較大聲。但也尊重一下我們,我們也要想想怎麼才是對金鶯球團 和球迷是最好的。就這樣..." 總結:打得不好的球隊也是人,別以為打得好的球隊說話才比較大聲... http://0rz.tw/NTMiu Showalter says Yankees' complaints were "disrespectful to Flanny" August 28, 2011 12:01 PM by Roch Kubatko Manager Buck Showalter knows that the Yankees are chafed at the Orioles for refusing to schedule a doubleheader on Friday and costing them the Sept. 8 off-day. And he really doesn't care. Showalter spoke calmly today, but he didn't pull any punches while addressing the topic with reporters before Game 1. He also referenced the tragic death of former Orioles pitcher Mike Flanagan. "The way I understand, I think they approached Andy (MacPhail) less than 24 hours before," he said. "First of all, I felt that some of the stuff was a little disrespectful to Flanny, quite frankly. That didn't sit well with me very well. I can tell you that. I think we had an April rainout there and they just told us when we were playing. We were OK with that. Like I told you the other day, you tell us when we're playing, we'll play. "We understand that sometimes our opinions on things are not relevant. They come to me when there are two options and talk about it from a baseball standpoint. Every club does that. But some of it kind of has a feeling of hypocrisy. I don't know. I don't dwell on it. Their opinion on what the Baltimore Orioles should do for their fans and for their organization isn't really that relevant to me personally. I can tell you that. We'll do what's best for our fans and for our organization, and we expect it back that they're going to do the same on their side. "Somebody said they offered us to play them there and they were going to give us part of the gate. That's interesting. We also realize that there's a lot of Yankees fans here that come to the games and there are a lot of different things to think about. I'm real confident that our guys have thought about every possible thing and we hope that the scenario we've had coming back home here never presents itself again. I'm sure if they stopped and thought about it, if the same thing happened to one of their greats, that they probably would have given a lot of consideration to how they were going to handle that day. "You want me to keep going? A lot of people don't really care about what our opinions are about different parts of baseball. We play baseball. If there's something out there, it's all about what's best for the fans and a lot of different things. Where it fits into us with all the great modes of how we're able to do this between travel and food, I just find it... Is it raining, is it snowing, is it 18 innings, nine? Let's go. "We hope one day that we can be as competitive as they are. I respect where they are in the season and what their people are saying about the competitive part of it, but it means something to us, too. We'll continue to do what's best for the Baltimore Orioles and the fans, which are the same thing. Along the way, we'll wear that. Sometimes we confuse some things from a real life standpoint compared to what we're actually doing here, OK? Obviously, there's more, but I'll stop there." Also, Showalter said Jake Arrieta has more flexibility in his right elbow now than he did before the surgery to remove a bone spur. Chris Davis (shoulder) could begin baseball-related activities Wednesday or Thursday. Cesar Izturis (groin) could begin his injury-rehab assignment on Friday or Saturday. Jason Berken's wife will have induced labor on Tuesday. Alfredo Simon and Jo-Jo Reyes are in the bullpen today. Showalter listed two reasons why Mark Hendrickson was chosen to replace Troy Patton on the 25-man roster. "Mark was pitching fairly well, and with his family in York, I'm sure they liked having him home for the storm." Hendrickson has signed another consent form allowing the Orioles to option him to Triple-A Norfolk. However, it's "not a given" that he'll come off the roster once Patton returns Monday or Tuesday, Showalter said. -- A tribute song to Syd Barrett http://0rz.tw/JuE5L The Man Who Invented Himself -- Robyn Hitchcock --



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1F:推 searoar:tsna有新聞 可惜是中文 08/29 16:25
2F:→ Vinsanity:"抱"怨 08/29 16:31
3F:推 Pennyjr:戰意滿點 08/29 16:32
4F:→ siliver:完全看不出來比雙重賽跟不敬有啥關聯 =.=a 08/29 16:34
5F:推 maikxz:鄉親耶 拉板凳看戲啦 φ(._. )> 08/29 16:34
6F:推 white75724:被砲轟了當然奇模子不爽啦 尊敬只是拿來說嘴用的而已 08/29 16:35
7F:→ RogerWaters:但中文那篇沒什麼戰意...呵呵... 08/29 16:36
8F:推 Yukirin:關Mike Flanagan屁事啊拿出來當藉口的而已吧這才是不尊重 08/29 16:42
9F:推 Sucks:不尊重的點在哪了? 08/29 16:44
10F:→ Sucks:消費死人 何況他是自殺死亡的 08/29 16:44
11F:→ FaceBlind:自殺死會怎樣? 上不了天堂嗎? 08/29 16:45
12F:推 heacoun:請問拖過世的人出來的點在哪裡 08/29 16:45
13F:→ lingsk:要看之前4月延賽金鶯是否有跟洋基抱怨 08/29 16:46
14F:推 Yukirin:四月延賽跟八月的延賽根本不能相提並論啊 後期吃緊多了 08/29 16:47
15F:→ Sucks:對於一個不珍惜生命 做出不好示範的 我不想評論 08/29 16:48
16F:推 Tulowitzki2:第二段有說跟Flanagan關係,因為他忌日在8/24 08/29 16:49
17F:推 lef1986:可以提早回家烤肉的就安分點 08/29 16:50
18F:推 ckbaboon:感覺就是嘴砲不用錢 笑死人 他季初不是也一直放話嗎 08/29 17:05
19F:推 dimko:在金鶯主場金鶯爽就好阿 難不成金鶯還要替洋基隊考慮要不要 08/29 17:06
20F:→ dimko:讓他們球員休息歐??洋基其實也沒甚麼好抱怨的吧?? 08/29 17:07
21F:推 lsmking7219:沒打那場也沒什麼差 會不會進季後賽比較重要 08/29 17:11
22F:推 steve8:外卡跟聯盟第一就有差了 08/29 17:20
23F:推 maikxz:不過今年美聯沒有長賽程可以選就是了 主要就1.主場優勢 2. 08/29 17:28
24F:→ maikxz:對戰對手 08/29 17:28
25F:→ waderu:Mike Flanagan: XXX 也中槍... 08/29 17:34
26F:→ AWainwright:他真的躺著了...QQ 08/29 17:35
27F:→ gorhow:金鳥很會推拖 -.- 08/29 17:37
28F:→ a88152660:嫌金鳥推托卻不嫌洋基抱怨? 08/29 18:15
29F:推 d9730090:有錢的是老大阿 08/29 18:21
30F:→ rayven:自殺在阿拉巴馬州跟奧克拉荷馬州算是犯罪 08/29 18:29
31F:→ wazowski:主場球隊決定在homestand首戰舉行Tribute儀式, 08/29 18:31
32F:推 xyzzz:金鶯扯太遠了吧....LUB~~ 08/29 18:32
33F:推 darksign:大伙進攻囉~ 08/29 18:32
34F:→ wazowski:決定不打雙重賽,使原本四天五戰的系列賽演變成 08/29 18:33
35F:→ Yukirin:抱怨跟反駁都無可厚非啊 這什麼爛反駁才是重點 08/29 18:34
36F:→ wazowski:剩下兩天要消化四場比賽,NYY只同意週日打DH, 08/29 18:35
37F:→ wazowski:不同意週一也打DH (週二開始要打BOS), 所以就 08/29 18:37
38F:→ wazowski:消耗到接下來的休兵日;Cashman,Gerardi,Granderson為此 08/29 18:39
39F:→ wazowski:提出抱怨, Showalter 提出反擊罷了. 感想: 08/29 18:40
40F:→ wazowski:第一, 賽程安排主場球隊有決定權, 沒啥好爭論的 08/29 18:41
41F:→ wazowski:第二, NYY 的人士抱怨也是人之常情 08/29 18:43
42F:→ wazowski:第三,但是誰叫金鳥惹到的是媒體寵兒NYY,被抱怨火力加成 08/29 18:45
43F:→ wazowski:用到"disrespectful"是反應過度了些,但是要尊重 08/29 18:49
44F:→ wazowski:主場球隊的賽事和活動安排應該是理所當然的, 08/29 18:50
45F:推 dimko:洋基球員然可以抱怨自己這樣打很累 總教練替自己球員說話也 08/29 18:51
46F:→ wazowski:不能因為主隊墊底而客隊是NYY,就表示人家該多替你的 08/29 18:51
47F:→ dimko:理所當然 但去抱怨賽程安排很明顯就是洋基自己的問題了 08/29 18:52
48F:→ dimko:今天如果立場互換 我不信金鶯球員喊累抱怨洋基隊會鳥他們 08/29 18:52
49F:→ wazowski:pennant race 多做著想 08/29 18:52
50F:→ dimko:遊戲規則已經定了要尊重主場球隊 就不該還抱怨賽程安排 08/29 18:55
51F:→ sidney78:直接說不爽打就好 幹嘛扯死者 真無聊 腦袋有? 08/29 18:59
52F:→ wazowski:重點是NYY抱怨的是週五為啥不打雙重賽,啊就金鳥當天 08/29 19:02
53F:→ wazowski:要舉行Tribute,所以不安排雙重賽;這跟Flanny當然有關 08/29 19:04
54F:推 dimko:理由是什麼根本沒差 反正只要G總出來抱怨大家就都會砲擊吧 08/29 19:05
55F:→ dimko:這就是媒體寵兒的優勢 球迷多咩XD 08/29 19:06
56F:→ wazowski:Showalter 不是隨便把 Flanny 扯進爭論裡面的 08/29 19:06
57F:推 sidney78:喔喔 SOGA 08/29 19:06
58F:→ wazowski:不少板友不清楚爭論起因之一是週五金鳥為舉行Flanny 08/29 19:17
59F:→ wazowski:致敬儀式而沒順NYY的意打DH,造成帝國人士抱怨; 08/29 19:19
60F:→ wazowski:就直接跳進來說金鳥的反擊無聊亂扯,這就是NYY的優勢? 08/29 19:20
61F:推 jayin07:是的,這就是優勢~ 08/29 19:26
62F:推 CORYCHAN:在PTT打嘴砲的優勢? 笑死我了XD 08/29 19:38
63F:→ a88152660:無理取鬧都有人支持 真是超棒的! 08/29 19:44
64F:推 mightymouse:我不是很了解DH跟紀念儀式的關係,打兩場就不能紀念嗎? 08/29 19:55
65F:→ a88152660:金鳥並不想要打兩場...主人不想要你這客人還吵什麼... 08/29 19:58
66F:推 frakx:抱怨一下很正常 08/29 20:14
67F:推 steed:講到Lidle時又是另一種反應了 顆顆 08/29 20:28
68F:→ tonyis7:翻譯只翻一半 部份只讀譯文的讀者自然容易誤解 08/29 20:44
69F:→ tonyis7:以此文來說 不加譯注說明Flanny與此事的關係便不適當 08/29 20:56
70F:→ RogerWaters:是哦..原來這裡翻譯新聞..沒有註譯就不適當..還是PO 08/29 21:18
71F:→ RogerWaters:本季各隊XX文, 比較爽...愛怎麼PO就怎麼PO 08/29 21:19
72F:推 wazowski:譯文還有一點有誤,Somebody (in NYY camp)說的不是 08/29 21:19
73F:→ wazowski:"洋基到巴爾的摩作客為金鶯帶來票房", 08/29 21:21
74F:→ wazowski:而是"提出把比賽改到紐約打,然後把部分門票收入 08/29 21:23
75F:→ wazowski:分給金鶯吃紅的建議". 感想: 戰績差沒人愛的球隊真悲哀 08/29 21:27
76F:→ CORYCHAN:我也有注意到 但會提出這種意見的人真是腦子有洞 08/29 21:27
77F:→ CORYCHAN:自以為NYY人氣高就可以不尊重主場球隊 還提出對自己有利 08/29 21:29
78F:→ RogerWaters:感謝wazowski的指正... 08/29 21:29
79F:→ CORYCHAN:的意見 08/29 21:29
※ 編輯: RogerWaters 來自: 61.225.149.81 (08/29 21:32)
80F:推 immortalqq:尊重 理性 很難嗎? 08/29 21:54
81F:推 wongwong123:這樣排抱怨很正常吧? 如果立場顛倒金鳥會不會抱怨? XD 08/29 22:27
82F:→ a88152660:但金鳥抱怨沒人會鳥啊... 08/29 22:28
83F:推 frakx:洋基抱怨了也還是要乖乖聽主場球隊阿XD 08/29 22:31
84F:→ frakx: 哪個無腦提議的確很不尊重就是 08/29 22:32
85F:推 dimko:金鶯會抱怨 但沒有媒體會當一回事 洋基是全國主場 所以去哪 08/29 22:35
86F:→ dimko:補賽都沒差 這應該是提議人的想法 08/29 22:35
87F:→ sarspieya521:誰在跟你洋基是全國主場... 08/29 22:40
88F:推 cloudyst:就嘴砲兩句 就被酸成這樣 不是媒體寵 是酸迷放大罷了 08/29 22:50
89F:推 YYL00:不是一堆人在酸金鳥?????? 08/29 23:16
90F:推 amadeus1223:很多人不把整件事情了解清楚就在嗆...推wazowski 08/29 23:39
91F:推 Fitzwilliam:不只嗆向死者致敬的金鳥,連死者都不放過 08/29 23:47
92F:推 melissalewis:今日巴爾地摩隊與往日巴爾地摩隊的糾葛 08/30 00:38
93F:推 x147159357:一堆酸民某迷,可以看完整篇文章嗎?別人要準備舉辦悼念 08/30 02:17
94F:→ x147159357:會,洋基還抱怨東抱怨西,自己又不是主場。還有人說四 08/30 02:18
95F:→ x147159357:月跟八月賽程不一樣不能比,根本就是..... 08/30 02:19
96F:→ Fitzwilliam:這些人連死者是不是自殺配不配被尊敬都能鞭了 08/30 02:19
97F:推 kurt28:感謝原PO跟wazowski 08/30 08:30
98F:推 coollonger:先嗆先爽 08/30 12:28
99F:噓 supdude:正常yankees 一堆whine babies 08/30 12:35







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