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Charley Rosen says #Knicks running triangle "half-assed" but is Fisher to blame? http://nyp.st/1OvFQKe Charley Rosen開炮拉! In an interview Monday with The Post, Charley Rosen, Phil Jackson’s confidant and his former Continental Basketball Association assistant coach, confirmed the Knicks’ system offense is lagging under Fisher’s watch, riddled with bad picks, a lack of proper movement, too much dribbling and not enough backdoor cuts. Charley Rosen,禪師的知己,同時也是前歐洲籃球的助理教練表示尼克的進攻體系反應太 遲鈍,老漁讓這隻尼克做出太多不好的進攻方式,不但缺少正確的傳導方式,還有過多的 運球跟不夠多的空手跑位。 The question is, whose fault is this? According to a source, there’s a growing sense among some players in the locker room Fisher is viewed more as a “preacher’’ and “motivator’’ than an expert in-game tactician or Xs-and-Os master. 那麼問題出在哪呢?根據消息指出有些球員認為老漁更像是個開導者跟佈道者,但布置 比賽戰術就沒那麼厲害了。 That probably should be expected, considering Fisher has 1 ¼ seasons of coaching experience on any level. Bucks coach Jason Kidd, now on a medical leave, also is considered to be in the same boat, well behind as a tactician. According to the source, Fisher’s assistant coaches, including Brian Keefe, Kurt Rambis and Jim Cleamons, are more versed in the strategic concepts. The source said Carmelo Anthony has come to Fisher recently to lobby for rookie Kristaps Porzingis to be more involved in the offense late in games to take the burden off him. Indeed, Porzingis had plays run for him down the stretch in Boston on Sunday. 有鑑於他才執教一又四分之一的賽季,這表現是可以理解的,雖說同行的老基倒是有中等水 準,根據消息指出,老漁身邊這群助理教練倒是挺擅長布置戰術的,另外消息也說瓜哥 有跟老漁說該讓KP在第四節時多餐與進攻,這樣可以減輕他的負擔,從事實來看,KP在老賽 戰的第四節的確多了一些戰術是圍繞著他的。 “If you run the triangle, you have to make a total commitment to the triangle,’’ said Rosen, who writes a technical basketball column for todaysfastbreak.com. “It’s not like a part-time thing that you just use some of it. If that’s your offense, you got to commit to it. It doesn’t look like they’re really committed to it. “They’re running it in a half-assed way. It’s not creating the kind of shots it would normally create.’’ 對此Rosen表示:當你在跑三角戰術時,你得要完全信任這套戰術,你可不能想說這戰術先跑 個一半看看效果如何,這套戰術是不能用這種半吊子的心態去跑的,如果你真想用這進攻 戰術,你就得專心地跑這套,但現在看來尼克並不是這樣,他們只跑一半,然後甚麼空檔都 沒創造出來。 Rosen is working on an online series detailing the Knicks’ season through Jackson’s eyes, to be published on his website after the campaign. Rosen said Jackson is still committed to the triangle. Asked about Jackson’s mood, with the Knicks at 14-18 and falling into 12th place in the Eastern Conference, four games out of the eighth seed, Rosen said: “He enjoys wins, doesn’t enjoy the losses. He’s not a good loser.’’ Rosen現在是在網路上透過禪師去了解現在這隻尼克的一切細節,他表示現在禪師仍很信賴 這套戰術。 談到禪師對這支14勝18敗尼克的想法,Rosen表示他很享受勝利,但並不喜歡輸球,他可不 擅長輸球。 Jackson last spoke to the media three days before training camp, his silence growing odder by the week. With the Knicks on the road, Jackson spent Christmas week in New York, with his kids flying into town. Jackson had promised to be more involved with the coaching staff this season, with film work. Asked if Fisher still is learning on the job and had not mastered teaching basketball Xs and Os, Rosen said: “I think that’s valid. How much did he learn from coaching a team that won 17 games? What he did do last year was kept them playing hard, a monumental accomplishment.’’ 禪師上次出面說話是在訓練營的前三天,禪師曾承諾這賽季會多跟教練團溝通。 當問到老漁是否還在學怎麼當教練,而且真的不太會布置戰術。 Rosen:"我認為我就這麼說吧,看看他從上賽季那17勝中學到甚麼?看看他上賽季 怎麼讓球員繼續努力打球,這些都是不錯的表現。 Because of the stigma developed last season over the triangle, Fisher rarely talks about it with the press. “I don’t know if he’s not harping on them or they are resistant,’’ Rosen said. “It’s 32 games. They should be running it better, unless Fisher isn’ t fully committed to it. “I see the weak-side picks are awful. They are loose. Nobody’s headhunting or looking for somebody. It’s just very, very loose.’’ 老漁很不滿意球隊在上場對老賽的進攻表現。由於上賽季那糟糕的表現,讓老漁不太愛在 記者會上談三角戰術。 Rosen:"我不知道老漁是否有強硬要求隊員們或是他們不太配合。現在已經32場比賽了, 他們這戰術理應跑得更好才對,除非老漁沒下定決心要跑這套戰術。" 我看過他們在弱邊處理方式,那真的是太糟糕了,他們打得過於鬆散了,沒有人是真的 在尋求空檔機會,就真的打得太懶散了。" Though the Knicks lead the league in post-ups, using Arron Afflalo and Carmelo Anthony, they aren’t getting enough out of them. Rosen said Porzingis, even though he has gotten stronger, isn’t “holding the space in the low post. He gets pushed out, and it ruins the spacing.” 雖然尼克已經是聯盟中最常用低位的球隊了,Rosen說KP的力量還不足以讓他能在低位發揮 作用,他很容易就被擠出低位,反而破壞了空間的利用方式。 Center Robin Lopez, according to Rosen, is holding his space in the post, but “has to relearn his footwork,” saying that has caused a lot of his off-balance shots in the paint. Finally, Rosen sees too many double-teams on Anthony, which wouldn’t occur if the triangle was crisper. “It should be difficult for teams to double someone like Melo,’’ Rosen said. “If it’s functioning and Joe Blow is designated to double Melo, Joe Blow should never know where [Joe Blow] will be.’’ 談到肉配汁,Rosen表示他應該多在低位活動,但他還得再學學低位腳步怎麼用,這已經 影響到他在禁區的進攻,太多失去平衡的投籃了。 另外瓜太常被包夾了,如果你三角跑得好,照理說他不會這麼容易就被包夾。 ----------------- Full Yahoo story on shot knee of Knicks' Cleanthony Early, with expected rehab timetable and investigation update: http://yhoo.it/1mjwiWD 阿早消息更新 After sustaining a gun-shot wound to his right knee early Wednesday in a targeted robbery, New York Knicks forward Cleanthony Early underwent MRI and X-ray exams that revealed no structural damage or surgery required, league sources told Yahoo Sports. Early remains in New York-Presbyterian Hospital, where doctors and the New York Knicks' training staff have worked to keep the 24-year-old's knee from becoming infected, sources told Yahoo. Early is expected to have a cleanup of his knee and expects a full recovery, league sources said. The bullet exited Early's leg and is not lodged in it, sources said. 不幸中的大幸-沒有任何結構性傷害 尼克的訓練員跟紐約醫院醫生一起在旁照料阿早。 目前預期只要把子彈清掉,阿早的膝蓋可以完全康復! Early is expected to need two to three months to recover, league sources said, with his week-to-week timetable potentially changing, depending on his rehabilitation. The Knicks and Early's family have been briefed on his condition, sources said. Early was robbed after leaving CityScapes Gentlemen's Club in the Queens borough of New York around 4:30 a.m. Wednesday, the New York Police Department said. When reached for comment Wednesday afternoon, a New York police official told Yahoo Sports that no arrests have been made in connection to the shooting and the investigation is ongoing. Despite the shooting, Early has been in high spirits in the hospital and is positive about his recovery from the injury suffered, sources said. Early had arthroscopic surgery on the same knee during his rookie season in 2014-15. 不過預計阿早需要2~3個月的時間來養傷,目前還沒抓到兇手。 不過消息指出阿早目前的心態還是很樂觀,同時他被射那膝蓋就是去年動手術那個 "Under the circumstances, he is very, very lucky," one source with knowledge of the situation told ESPN. Knicks coach Derek Fisher said he spoke with Early on Wednesday morning. "He's doing OK," Fisher said. "I don't think we've got enough of a medical update to assume everything is OK, but relatively, he's doing well. It doesn't appear to be life-threatening at this point. But obviously, until you're released from the hospital I think we also have to be cautious." Fisher later said: "The most important thing is that it appears at least that he's going to still be with us and hopefully be back with our team soon. To what extent of the injury, etc, we won't know that for now. But for sure, to know that he's still here and doing relatively well, as well as you could be, I think we'll take that." 對此消息表示:由這情況來看,阿早算非常非常幸運,沒有任何結構性傷害。" 老漁表示:"他目前狀態還好,我不認為我們目前有足夠的情報可以去說目前情況都還好, 但,實際上,阿早目前狀況還算良好,還好他目前沒有生命危險,但顯然的要等到他出院 後才能這麼說,我想我們還是得小心行事。" 現在最重要的是,他還是在我們身邊,很希望他可以快點歸隊,我們目前不知道她傷勢多 嚴重,但很確定的是,他仍活著而且一切都還算正常,所以我想我們能接受這結果的。" Fisher said the team might consider instituting a curfew at a later date. "I think it's very important to respect Cleanthony and his mom and his family before debating policy and what should and shouldn't be," he said. Knicks forward Carmelo Anthony said he was "shocked" to hear the news, saying Early is "a very humble guy who stays to himself." Anthony, who has played in New York for nearly five years, believes he and his teammates need to be cautious when out in public. "You have to be careful," he said. "You have to be aware of kind of what you're doing and your surroundings and where you're at. ... Guys are going to go out. Guys are going to have a good time. I think we just have to be a little bit more aware and a little bit more conscious of where we're at, who we're around, our surroundings, who's in our circles and things like that." 老漁說有鑑於近期內太多NBA球員在紐約的夜店出事,可能球隊會考慮設個門禁時間。 (最近的就是DW錢被偷 CC被打之類的) 瓜表示她聽到消息的當下很震驚,他說阿早是個很謙虛而且很自重的孩子。 瓜:"你得要小心點啊,你得要注意你在做甚麼還有你身邊的環境是怎麼樣的,有些人會想要 出去享樂一下,但我認為我們都需要謹慎一點並且要注意哪些區域,這件事都有可能發生在 我們之中。" 另外有消息說當天早上,禪師跟老漁有招集教練團跟球員們開會說明一下情況。 ----------------- -- ─∥ ── =" ψsherry821224 ────────────── \ Teammates don't  ̄◣  ̄╲  ̄╲ λ play with each _ -.╳ ︶- other, they play ρ\ `, ▲ FOR each other. ─∥ _╱ ╲╲_◢ | ────────…‥. --



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1F:推 ILNARA: 沒有結構性的傷害...那大概就是等肉長好 傷口好了就能上了 12/31 17:37
2F:推 atear: 還好沒事 不幸中的大幸 12/31 18:33
3F:推 osape: 還好沒事,不過阿早好不容易有進入一點輪替了,真可惜 12/31 19:06
4F:→ osape: 夏季聯賽打得挺好的,都沒有上場時間真的很可惜 12/31 19:06
5F:推 ILNARA: 老漁的調度對我來說也是一個謎...本季看到現在都實驗性質 12/31 19:43
6F:推 acemelo07: CC被打 ? 誰阿? 12/31 20:45
7F:→ julian0203: 靠譜蘭 12/31 20:55
8F:推 osape: CC和沙發去夜店被砍,上季的消息。 12/31 21:31
9F:→ osape: 老魚當更衣室精神領袖就好,戰術給助教吧,昨天打活塞很好 12/31 21:32
10F:→ osape: 防守和投射都不錯,希望下一場能持續,不想再看到破洞防守 12/31 21:32
11F:推 BleuOmbre: Grant 怎麼被冷了? 12/31 22:16
12F:推 ILNARA: 公牛這場落賽了 兩支內線完全性的不敵...=_= 01/02 09:35
13F:→ ILNARA: kp扛不住 lopez也守不住中距離 阿福攻防都恍神 爆掉了XD 01/02 09:36
14F:→ ILNARA: 公牛運氣也太好 三四球外線彈呀彈 彈進=.= 01/02 09:46
15F:推 ILNARA: 連續三分 打一波13-3 追回一點了 乎.. 01/02 10:00
16F:→ ILNARA: 公牛運氣用完 開始打鐵 命中率下降超快XD 半場50-56 01/02 10:03
17F:推 dj6601: 終於領先了 下半場真的狂響哨... 01/02 10:36
18F:推 camby909: 想討論的 歡迎來LINE群 每場比賽都很熱鬧 01/02 10:43
19F:推 ILNARA: 第三節尺度變超緊..逼不完= = 01/02 10:44
20F:推 camby909: 一直吹我們推人 他們罰球..不然早壓過去了 01/02 10:46
21F:推 dj6601: 被吹得支離破碎 看的好消火 01/02 10:47
22F:→ dj6601: Line....超不想裝LINE的啦 坎比 01/02 10:48
23F:→ ILNARA: line幾百年沒開過了XD 01/02 10:48
24F:推 dj6601: 照這個尺度下去 我們凶多吉少了 01/02 10:51
25F:→ ILNARA: 黑爆了...... 01/02 10:52
26F:推 camby909: 老魚 別亂鬧了 01/02 10:53
27F:→ ILNARA: 尺度雙重標準很明顯= = 01/02 10:53
28F:→ dj6601: 跑了老半天 沒看到在製造錯位 第二波又都打不進 唉 01/02 10:53
29F:推 dj6601: 靠北 又被吹進犯 怎麼打阿 01/02 10:55
30F:推 camby909: ..真的 01/02 10:56
31F:推 dj6601: 看的超火的... 01/02 10:57
32F:推 ILNARA: 撞到自己人 算我們的? 01/02 10:57
33F:推 camby909: 裁判真的太扯 真的被吹到落後 01/02 10:58
34F:→ ILNARA: 這球太扯=.= 01/02 11:03
35F:推 dj6601: KP低位進攻完全沒信心耶 都打一半就丟出來 硬打買飯也好阿 01/02 11:04
36F:→ dj6601: -18了 01/02 11:05
37F:→ dj6601: 第四節剩四分鐘 我們只得6分 好慘 01/02 11:06
38F:推 penny1and1: 完全無法接受這種總教練,第四節一開局放替補,被打爆 01/02 11:06
39F:→ penny1and1: 老漁不知道在幹嘛.....三角戰術都跑這麼久還是很糟 01/02 11:08
40F:推 gk524: 不要再批評老漁了...板上資深士官長說過只是默契問題 01/02 11:08
41F:→ gk524: 即使這種三角沒發揮功能讓陣中單打好手只獲得瘋狂包夾出手 01/02 11:09
42F:推 ILNARA: 阿福.... 01/02 11:10
43F:推 penny1and1: 那可以不要冰Grant嗎?公主都可以上場了 01/02 11:10
44F:推 dj6601: 老漁的三角都在弱邊玩兩人配合 問題是這麼單調簡單 01/02 11:11
45F:推 gk524: 公主的無形默契值比較高吧? 我也不懂 有請資深士官長開示 01/02 11:11
46F:→ dj6601: 騙的了誰...NCAA教練都能找出方法對付了 01/02 11:12
47F:→ gk524: 這種三角連一般的擋拆製造錯位都不如 不過應該是默契問題啦 01/02 11:12
48F:→ dj6601: 老漁的用人哲學也超怪 有時狂用KOQ冰KS好幾場 之後又相反 01/02 11:14
49F:→ dj6601: 之前天天上場的阿芒 現在又跑到板凳深處 01/02 11:14
50F:推 gk524: 別說太多了 板上資深士官長等等又要不開心攻擊板友惹 01/02 11:15
51F:→ dj6601: 第四節還是只得8分 01/02 11:16
52F:推 penny1and1: 老漁用人真的很難抓,很難理解他的邏輯! 01/02 11:16
53F:→ dj6601: 新年第一場 就這樣 好不吉祥阿 XD 01/02 11:17
54F:推 penny1and1: 最近有消息想要交易建寧公主過來,不知道可不可行? 01/02 11:19
55F:推 ILNARA: 用人標準真的...唉..... 01/02 11:19
56F:推 dj6601: 要說教練這樣一點問題也沒有 我也認了 01/02 11:20
57F:推 gk524: 球季才剛過三分之一呢 有點耐心等我尼默契值練起來行嗎 01/02 11:20
58F:推 rioslo: 空間都拉不出來 到底三角在哪理啊 01/02 11:21
59F:→ dj6601: 唉 沒關係 禪師發言人已經出來開砲了 只能耐心靜觀其變了 01/02 11:22







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