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標題[專訪] 亞洲版時代雜誌專訪憲哥
時間Fri Oct 16 03:22:03 2015
Jacky Wu is, as everyone in Taiwan knows, the most popular guy on local
television. He hosts six separate variety talk shows for a grand total of 21
hours of airtime a week. He was Channel V*s "Favorite Chinese Person of the
Year " in 2000. He owns a dozen restaurants, a record label that just put out
theyear*s hottest new Mando-pop star and his own cable channel, ET Jacky.
TIME reporters Macabe Keliher and Maureen Tkacik tracked him down recently in
the midst of a hectic week to talk about his career and future plans. Edited
excerpts:
T:You are arguably the most popular entertainer in Taiwan today. So what's it
like to be Jacky Wu?
W:Being an entertainer sucks! Your privacy is continuously encroached; the
local media just does not know when to stop.The other month I was walking
down the street late at night with a woman friend, and a TV station got me
on tape. They played the tape every 15 minutes with headlines that I had a
new girlfriend.
T:Two years ago the media also attacked you for having kids out of wedlock.
W:Yes,they revealed that I had grown kids...and had been lying to everybody.
But really, I don't think it unacceptable to have girlfriends. I also
happen to have kids by mine. I like kids.
T:You have also faced a lot of criticism from feminists for on-air remarks
that were deemed sexist.
W:Everyone finds something to get angry about, but I am far from sexist.
I am the only entertainer to openly support more women in politics.
I'm actually a really nice guy and I wouldn't criticize people like that.
T:How did you start out in showbiz?
W:I used to travel around to college campuses to perform.
I would play guitar and my friend would sing. We would split the money
60-40; I got more because I could play guitar and that's what drew the
crowd. I did about 2,000 performances. We would drive all over Taiwan to
play. That's when I had the scariest moment of my life.
T:Which was?
W:Once we were driving on a freeway late at night when my friend, who was
driving, fell asleep at the wheel. I suddenly saw two words: Chinese
Petroleum. I thought we were going to crash into the gas truck.
T:So you went from near-death on the freeway to having your own chauffeur?
W:Not quite. In the early 1990s all the game shows in Taiwan were singing
shows. I used to go on those and would win contests. In 1997-98 the singing
shows turned into variety shows and I happened to be in the right place at
the right time and became a host.
T:What allowed you to rise then?
W:I created a new style of humor, and broke with old habits. Also, when I
interview people I don't venture deep into their background. I just ask
questions about them to understand them.
T:Everyone says your reactions are very quick...the quickest in the business.
Is this a natural talent or something you cultivated?
W:In Taiwan we have these street sideshows in the evening. I used to take my
dinner and sneak out to watch the shows every night. I memorized everything
they said and from this began to cultivate my own reactions and humor.
T:Your humor has really struck a chord among the younger generation. I walk
around the local university campuses and hear students mimicking jokes or
words you have created.
W:I know my audience very well. Like I said, I performed over 2,000 times at
campuses in my early days. I know what young people want and what they like.
I only have one boss and that is my audience.
T:Producers who work with you say you are the only person that they know who
can operate on two hours sleep a night. How do you do it?
W:It's all in the mind. Tonight I hosted a game show then ran over to do some
rounds and say a few entertaining words at a presidential dinner. Now I am
sitting here chatting with you, and in a moment I get to go host two of
Taiwan's most vocal opinion leaders on my political talk show. Who needs to
sleep?
T:Now, at the pinnacle or your career as a comedian and host, you are moving
into the direction of political commentary. Why?
W:I have been an entertainer for 20 years, and to tell you the truth,
it gets a little boring after a while. I am an *ideas* man. I have lots of
ideas and lots of things that I want to learn and do. The political talk
show is a new field for me.Three months ago when I started the show
I didn't know anything about politics. Now I can talk about any current
issue.In another three months I will be able to provide background
information on any political topic.
T:This is not a move into politics, is it?
W:No, I am politically neutral. But I am bored with the old stuff
(that I've been doing). The political talk show gives me the opportunity to
do something new.
T:Since you don't support any political positions, let's talk about sex.
W:Great!
T:What do you look for in a woman?
W:It's most important that we can get along. I'm an easygoing guy, but to be
able to get along with someone is not an easy thing.
T:Don't be so diplomatic.
W:OK, she should be 166-cm tall, thin with a full chest, very pretty, and
have long hair.
T:Are these the characteristics of your current girlfriend?
W:I don't have a girlfriend now. I am too busy.
T:Where did you get your English name Jacky?
W:When I was a kid I really liked airplanes, and would take the No. 5 bus out
to the American military base to watch the jets take off and land. Since I
was around so much I got to be friends with the kids of pilots at the base,
and the pilots themselves. One of the pilots of the jet I liked most was
named Jack. He used to joke with me and call me Jacky, after himself. He
said when I got older he would take me up in his jet.Of course he lied to
me,but I kept the name.
T:By doing so many different things, and with your face all over the media,
are you afraid that people will get tired of watching you in a few years?
W:Fantastic! I'm glad you asked that.I wanted to retire last year but my
contracts were not up. What I am doing now is nothing new; it gets boring
and it is not what I want to do with my life.
T:What do you want to do?
W:I want to educate kids. I want to move onto bigger projects involving
educational programs on the Internet. I would act as a host to inspire
and entertain kids. We are currently writing many of the courses; we're
just waiting until Taiwan's broadband sector opens to be able to make
the project feasible.
原文翻譯:
作為台灣家喻戶曉的人物,吳宗憲是是台灣本土電視台最受歡迎的主持人。他主持6個不
同類型的綜藝節目,每週為觀眾服務超過21小時。 2000年,他榮膺Channel V'“年度最
受歡迎中國人物”獎項。他擁有12個餐廳,一家捧紅當年最熱門流行歌星的唱片公司及一
家叫做“ET Jacky”的有線電視台。最近,時代記者馬克伯.凱勒和莫瑞.泰科克在吳宗憲
忙碌的一周中追訪到他,談及了他的職業生涯及未來計劃,現摘錄如下:
時:可以說今天你已經是台灣最受歡迎的藝人,那麼將來的吳宗憲想成為什麼樣的人呢?
吳:成為一個百毒不侵的藝人!你的隱私不斷被侵犯,不知道本地的媒體什麼時候才會
停止這樣做。幾個月前,我和我的一個女性朋友走在深夜的街道上,結果隔天我就
上了電視。他們每15分鐘就播一下這條新聞,新聞標題說我有了新女朋友。
時:兩年前,媒體攻擊你隱瞞未婚生子。
吳:沒錯,他們發現我有小孩——說我欺騙了所有人。但事實上,我有女友,我有
孩子,我愛他們,我不認為這是一個無法讓人接受的事情。
時:你也面對很多女權主義者的批評,因為你的廣播言論常被認為帶有性別歧視。
吳:每個人都會找一些事情發洩。但憑良心講,我絕無性別歧視,我是這個圈子裡唯一
公開支持更多女性參與政治的藝人。我是一個真正的好人,不像大家所指責的那樣。
時:你是如何開始你的演藝事業的?
吳:我曾經參加大學校園表演。那時我彈吉他,我朋友唱歌,跟他四六分帳,我多一些
。因為彈吉他能吸引更多觀眾,所以辦了差不多2000場左右,幾乎跑遍全台。那時,
我碰到了這一生中最可怕的事。
時:怎麼這麼說?
吳:有一晚,我們行駛在高速公路上,我朋友開車開到睡著了,突然間我看到四個字
:中國石油。我們差點撞上油罐車了。
時:所以,從瀕臨死亡的高速公路回來後你有了自己的司機?
吳:沒有,90年代初的時候台灣所有的秀場都充斥著歌舞秀,我不得不繼續那些表演並贏
得比賽。直到1997—1998年的時候,歌舞秀才逐漸被更多類型的秀取代,我恰好在正
確的時間正確的地點成為了主持人。
時:之後你是如何步步提升的呢?
吳:我打破了陋習,創造了一種新的幽默型態。我介紹人的時候我從不一開始就深入他們
的背景,我只是問他們一些問題,以此去了解他們。
時:每個人都說你的反應迅捷無比──你是這個圈子反應最快的人。這是你天生的素質還
是後來培養的?
吳:在台灣,晚上有很多街頭藝人在表演。我曾經每晚帶著乾糧去偷看他們的表演。我偷
記他們所有的表演內容並開始培養自己的反應和幽默。
時:你的幽默在年輕一代中確實已經深入人心,我走在當地大學校園的時候,總能聽到他
們模仿你創造的笑話或者語句。
吳:因為我了解我的觀眾。正如我先前所說,在演藝生涯的早期,我做了近2000場校園秀
,我知道年輕人喜歡什麼,想要什麼,我唯一的老闆就是我的衣食父母,我的觀眾。
時:你的搭檔說你竟然可以一夜只睡兩個鐘頭,你怎麼做到的?
吳:一切取決於你的頭腦。今晚我主持了一個遊戲節目,然後馬不停蹄去一個董事長晚宴
炒熱氣氛,現在我坐在這里和你交談,等一下我還得去主持一個由台灣民意領袖參
與的政治脫口秀節目,哪還需要睡覺?
時:作為一個主持人(或諧星),你目前正處在事業高峰,為甚麼開始轉向政治評論?
吳:說實話,做了二十年的藝人,有時候會覺得有一點厭煩。我是一個滿腦子充滿想法的
人,有很多思想,很多東西想學、想做。政論節目對我來說是一個全新的領域。
三個月前,在剛開始做這個節目的時候,我對政治一竅不通。現在,我卻可以談論
任何時事。再過三個月,我將能夠對任何政治題材如數家珍。
時:這不代表一種政治行動,對吧?
吳:對,我無黨無派。但我對陳舊的事感到厭倦(比如我曾經做過的)政治談話節目為
我提供嘗試新事物的機會。
時:既然你不支持任何政治觀點,我們就來談性吧。
吳:好啊!
時:從一個女人身上,你希望獲得什麼呢?
吳:最重要的是彼此能相處。我是一個隨意的人,但是能和一個人相處融洽不是一件簡單
的事。
時:具體點。
吳:這樣說吧,她應該身高166公分,胸部豐滿,十分漂亮,長頭髮。
時:這是你現在的女朋友的特徵嗎?
吳:我現在沒有女朋友。我太忙了。
時:你的英文名字Jacky有什麼來歷嗎?
吳:當我還小的時候,特別喜歡飛機。我會搭五號巴士,去美國軍事基地看噴射機起降。
由於常在那閒晃,我和他們的小孩成為了朋友。有位我很喜歡的飛行員叫做Jack。
他會開我玩笑,叫我Jacky。他說等我長大了以後,就會帶我上他的噴射機。當然那
是在騙我的,但我還是留下了這個名字。
時:做了這麼多不同的事,名字三不五時出現在各大媒體,會不會擔心觀眾總有一天膩到
不再看你的節目?
吳:問得好!我很高興你問我。上個月我本來想退休,但合約還沒有到期。現在我做的這
些都不算新了,它會變得無趣,到了最後,我就不會把它當成是我的志業了。
時:那你想做些什麼?
吳:我想教育小朋友。我要進行一項計畫,是有關網路的教育節目。
屆時,我會扮演一位娛樂和啟發小孩的主持人。我們正在編寫課程,期許
網路領域的部門,能夠採行我們這項計畫。
Monday,May.07,2001
Time Asia
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