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我們看到th可以如此不負法律責任及良心責任的造謠 造完一個謠又一個,我們則是要不斷揪出他如何造謠,然後他拍拍屁股就不認 ※ 引述《theologe (表達你我的信仰~)》之銘言: : 延續#1RUOXdna推文處tf建議的「反律主義」探討: : 這篇摘要介紹了那時路德處理的爭論,比較好懂一點 : https://lutheranreformation.org/history/the-antinomian-disputations/ : 有些句子我真的看到板上兩造辯論的影子! : "Agricola and the Antinomians did not deny the presence of sin in the life o f : the Christian. However, they saw the Law as a dead letter, which by no means : could bring about repentance. Repentance is brought about by the work of the : Holy Spirit, as Jesus teaches in John 14-16, and the antinomians operated : with the idea that the Holy Spirit did not work through the Law. Instead, : they believed that the Holy Spirit operates only in the Gospel. Therefore, : the preaching of the crucified Christ alone would lead to true repentance. : Repentance from sin was not about recognizing that one had violated the Law : but that one had done harm to the Son of Man, who laid down His life for the : salvation of sinners." : 這段對反律主義論點的描繪,跟板上會所弟兄表述的幾乎一致。 幾乎一致? 我們說法是律法暴露人的罪請問是樓上還是樓下說法? 我們說法是律法使人知道不在靈中,需要轉回靈裡是樓上還是樓下說法? 我們可以看見th如何不斷一個謊言又一個謊言 : 並非罪大惡極,甚至頗有說服力,但就是怪怪的。 : 至於路德怎麼回應? : "For Luther, if one would lose the proclamation of the Law, one would also : lose the sweet gospel which sets sinners free from condemnation. He said, “ : Yet it is safest to turn to a middle road, to turn too much neither to the : right nor to the left. For both are dangerous, and, as I said already, for : this reason also, the office of the word was instituted, that we might teach : both, that is, the Law and the Gospel. The one cannot properly be taught or : dealt with safely without the other…So here too one must divide well, lest : only one part be taught in the churches—either fear and sorrow or : consolation and joy—but both at the same time.”[4] Both Law and Gospel are : necessary for repentance: the Law which works contrition (sorrow for sin) an d : the Gospel which works faith in the promise of forgiveness. : Is there a need for the preaching of the Law? Should pastors proclaim the La w : in their sermons? Does the Law play a role in repentance? Yes. “The Law : reveals the guilt of sin And makes us conscience-stricken; But then the : Gospel enters in The sinful soul to quicken.”[5] As we remain in the fallen : flesh we will have need for God’s holy Law, not as a means to make ourselve s : righteous but in order that we take hold of the depth of Christ’s saving : work for us, delivered in the Gospel message of forgiveness." : 其他的部份請再自行閱讀連結全文。 --



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