作者ByronBuxton (SuperStar)
看板Cardinals
標題[情報] John Sickels 2013 Top 20 prospects
時間Mon Dec 24 22:25:22 2012
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St. Louis Cardinals Top 20 Prospects for 2013
1) Oscar Taveras, OF, Grade
A: One of the easiest grades in the book.
Outstanding hitter for power and average, and he improved his baserunning and
defense. Next great Cardinals star? Seems like it to me.
2) Shelby Miller, RHP, Grade
A: Terrific second half of the season saved his
A rating from last year. Still looks like a rotation anchor to me, just needs
to stay healthy.
3) Carlos Martinez, RHP, Grade
A-: Borderline
B+: Still has some rough edges
but he made enough progress that I'm comfortable bumping him up a notch. Like
Miller, he can be a top of the rotation guy if he avoids injury. He's moved
very quickly and if I were the Cardinals I think I would slow things down a
little and avoid bringing him to the majors in 2013 unless nobody else is
available.
4) Trevor Rosenthal, RHP, Grade
B+: Borderline
A-: Another very live arm who
could pitch at the top of the rotation eventually, or perhaps become a power
closer.
5) Michael Wacha, RHP, Grade
B+: Exceeded expectations in pro ball, granted
the sample is small, but still. . .40/4 K/BB in 21 innings? Dang. I thought
he was a future number three starter, but if he maintains the uptick in
velocity he showed in pro ball, he's another guy you can build the rotation
around.
6) Kolten Wong, 2B, Grade
B: Solid but unspectacular season in Double-A, with
his defense looking quite good and a decent hitting line. Looked good to me
in Arizona Fall League. I still see him as a future regular second baseman
who hits for average, gets on base, and provides a steady glove.
7) Matt Adams, 1B, Grade
B: Poorly-timed injury, but he destroyed Triple-A
pitching and given his track record I think he will eventually adapt to the
majors. Like Wong, I don't see him as a star, but rather as a solid regular.
8) Tyrell Jenkins, RHP, Grade
B-: His upside is as high as the guys above
him, but injuries and command problems short-circuited him in Low-A.
Disappointing, but the talent is still here.
9) Anthony Garcia, OF, Grade
B-: I absolutely do not understand why this guy
doesn't get more press. His power is very real, and even marginal
improvements in the strike zone would result in a huge breakout. Crushed
Low-A pitching.
10) Carson Kelly, 3B, Grade
B-: Highest-ceiling and youngest of the third
basemen drafted in 2012 by the Cards. Will also take the most time to
develop. Needs more patience and defensive work. Profile is similar to
Diamondbacks prospect Matt Davidson at the same stage of his career.
11) Patrick Wisdom, 3B, Grade
B-: Excellent glove, and he hit better in the
New York-Penn League than he did in college. Expect power and patience, we'll
have to see about the batting average.
12) Stephen Piscotty, 3B, Grade
B-: Nice solid line drive hitter, but he
doesn't have Wisdom's glove nor Kelly's pure upside. That's a problem, since
Piscotty's bat won't look as good in the outfield or at first base unless he
boosts home run production.
13) Greg Garcia, 2B-SS, Grade
C+: Wong's double play partner at Springfield
is a strong yet overlooked prospect in his own right with very sound on-base
skills. Stretched at shortstop, he's better at second base but that's Wong's
position.
14) Seth Maness, RHP, Grade
C+: Truly outstanding command helps mediocre
velocity play up. Seems like he can be a sound inning-eater to me, or at
worst an attractive trade chit for another team.
15) John Gast, LHP, Grade
C+: A good arm from the left side, but erratic
with his command and more likely to fit in the bullpen than the rotation for
St. Louis.
16) Starlin Rodriguez, 2B, Grade
C+: Another overlooked prospect who would
get a lot more attention if he played in a weaker farm system. Good fielder,
hit for average with some pop, strong performance in High-A. Good showing in
Double-A will get him on the conveyer belt towards an opportunity of Wong
doesn't pan out.
17) Ryan Jackson, SS, Grade
C+: Very sound defensive player and can surprise
you with his hitting at times. If you really need a shortstop, you could do a
lot worse than just sticking Jackson in the lineup, hit him low in the order,
and enjoy his fundamental play. More value for a real team than a fantasy
one.
18) Maikel Cleto, RHP, Grade
C+: Gotta respect the arm strength. Will he ever
throw strikes well enough for the 100 MPH fastball to matter?
19) Tyler Lyons, LHP, Grade
C+: Sleeper prospect who has more talent and
pitched better than his 4.00+ ERA in Triple-A indicates. Would be a sneaky
rotation candidate for some teams due to strike-throwing ability, but he gets
lost in the crowd here.
20) Breyvic Valera, INF, Grade
C+: Another sound infielder, this one
advancing to Low-A for 2013. Hits for average, defense is promising at second
base, could develop more power than people expect.
OTHER GRADE C+: Tim Cooney, LHP; Victor De Leon, RHP; James Ramsey, OF; Boone
Whiting, RHP
OTHERS: Steve Bean, C; Michael Blazek, RHP; Keith Butler, RHP; Adron
Chambers, OF; Victor De Leon, RHP; Adam Ehrlich, C; Eric Fornataro, RHP; Sam
Freeman, LHP; Silfredo Garcia, RHP; Sam Gaviglio, RHP; Pete Kozma, SS: Jake
Lemmerman, INF; Dixon Llorrens, RHP; C.J. McElroy, OF; Mike O'Neill, OF;
Jorge Rondon, RHP; Kevin Siegrist, LHP; Lee Stoppelman, LHP; Jordan Swagerty,
RHP; Charlie Tilson, OF; Colin Walsh, OF-INF
What can you say? This is one hell of a farm system. There is impact talent.
There are future stars. And there are a lot of guys who project as solid role
players to back them up.
The pitching. . .you have four guys in Miller, Martinez, Rosenthal, and
Wacha who could be and should be rotation anchors. Jenkins has that kind of
talent too, if he can refine it. There is a ton of pitching behind them, with
a good mixture of strike-throwers (Maness, Lyons, Boone Whiting) and guys
with hot arms. The Cardinals should never want for good relief pitching, and
if even if some of the top guys get hurt or don't pan out, one of the
efficiency experts could step in.
As history shows (Oakland's Four Aces, Generation K of the Mets, the Royals a
couple of years ago), having a great batch of pitching prospects is no
guarantee of success. There will be injury attrition, and someone will be a
disappointment. But the point is to gather as many pitchers as possible to
provide depth to cover for the inevitable failures, and the Cardinals are
masters at doing this.
But the Cardinals also have lots of hitting to go with the pitching. Taveras
will be a star, Wong and Adams look like regulars, and there are a bunch of
guys who should be role players or strong contributors at least. The 2012
draft brought in additional bats, with particular depth at third base. If
those guys thrive in 2013, this list will still look strong next year even if
the top guys graduate.
Overall, this is an amazing system, a prospect factory. They find guys at
big colleges, they find guys at small colleges, they find guys in junior
college, they find and develop high school guys, they find and develop Latin
American guys. They do everything.
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※ 編輯: ByronBuxton 來自: 111.242.11.56 (12/24 22:59)
1F:推 ColbyRasmus:咦? 12/24 23:27
2F:→ ColbyRasmus:我真搞不懂為什麼Anthony Garcia排名這麼高 12/24 23:29
3F:→ ByronBuxton:會是因為power嗎??? 12/25 00:05
4F:推 synchron:好強大的農場..~ 12/25 00:12
5F:→ ByronBuxton:當然強大,BA之前chat都說紅雀農場當今無人能敵 12/25 00:14
6F:推 yenchenchou:雙A~ A_A 12/25 00:33
7F:推 yenchenchou:參考即可。翻兩年前的Craig、Lynn都是C+ 12/25 00:39
8F:推 ck3300511:wow好強耶 12/25 01:14
9F:推 papazzz:兩三年前明明還很貧濟的農場..真的是今非昔比 12/25 02:11
10F:推 waitla:Sickels的grade是會一直修正的 最好的例子就是Holliday 12/25 04:56
11F:→ waitla:也不能說修正(太好聽了) 用看走眼可能會比較貼切 XD 12/25 04:58
12F:推 hunterqiji:連Bauer,d'Anaud都才A- 12/25 06:24
13F:→ hunterqiji:我們有2A,1A-實在是太威了! 12/25 06:25
14F:推 ck3300511:摸大哥要來當打擊助理教練? 12/25 16:36
15F:推 yenchenchou:的確可以說是"修正" OK啦 12/25 17:01
16F:推 Zamned:雖然知道你們是穩進聯盟TOP3的農場 12/25 19:45
17F:→ Zamned:但是還是要說 你們太噁心了(稱讚意謂) 12/25 19:46
18F:→ goopa:Rosenthal的成長幅度真的滿兇猛的 12/25 20:47
19F:→ goopa:不愧是Rasmus大重點關注的新秀 12/25 20:47
20F:推 a12q35745:好到令人噁心的農場... 12/25 21:37
21F:推 ck3300511:sorry借問一下 好的農場是有一隻A就很棒了嗎? 12/25 21:54
22F:推 ColbyRasmus:一隻不夠吧,前幾年我們有過Raz + Wallace兩隻A- 12/26 21:42
23F:→ ColbyRasmus:而且還要有深度,我們之前農場都是算完前三名就沒了 12/26 21:44
24F:→ ColbyRasmus:現在是進步很多了 12/26 21:44
25F:推 ColbyRasmus:順便提一下,最近簽下多明尼加右投手Alex Reyes 12/26 21:46
26F:→ ColbyRasmus:簽約金$950K是今年多明尼加新秀第二高,聽說球速最快 12/26 21:47
27F:→ ColbyRasmus:達到94 mph 12/26 21:47
28F:→ maxspeed150:農場的重點是depth A的不一定要很多 可是不能出現太大 12/27 11:16
29F:→ maxspeed150:落差 舉例來說 如果有個農場有4個A級新秀但是連一個B 12/27 11:18
30F:→ maxspeed150:都沒有 這種農場一點都不好 12/27 11:18
31F:推 adagiox:衝阿 小紅鳥 12/27 16:35
32F:推 ck3300511:小木匠開始練二壘 12/31 21:50
33F:推 CarMartinez:水喔! 第三 01/01 02:03
34F:推 lin8032:farm system 我們第一名 01/09 18:33
35F:推 lovejeely:這甚麼他X的噁心農場深度啊-_- 01/09 23:07
36F:推 FreeFly:當然噁心了 龜派氣功高中畢業的都只能排第六了..... 01/15 09:44
37F:推 ck3300511:龜派氣功高中是蝦米 01/15 16:42
38F:推 waitla:Wong的高中名字叫Kamehameha 就是龜派氣功的發音 01/15 23:27
39F:→ waitla: ^讀 01/15 23:27
40F:推 ck3300511:挖靠 這麼酷的名字XDDDD 01/16 13:29
41F:→ ck3300511:感謝解答 01/16 13:29
43F:推 ck3300511:KOZMA加油啊 01/17 00:58
44F:推 ColbyRasmus:嗯... Kozma的防守比Ryan Jackson好? 01/17 11:49