==================================== An interview with Rachel Shelley 专访 Rachel Shelley ==================================== by Jenny Stewart @ http://planetout.com http://planetout.com/entertainment/interview.html/?sernum=1011& navpath=/entertainment/lword/ 中文翻译: 孟波 When British actress Rachel Shelley accepted the role of Helena Peabody on the Showtime series "The L Word," little did she know she'd be participating in a groundbreaking television first. The role would require the straight actress to do explicit lesbian love scenes with a pregnant character -- played by an actress who's pregnant in real life. (Very pregnant!) 当英国女演员 Rachel Shelley 接下了 Helena Peabody 这个角色的时候， 她并不知道她其实会参与这种超前卫的电视演出: 一位异性恋的女演员将 直接挑战女同性爱场景，而且! 是与一位怀孕的角色 -- 而且是由真的正怀孕的演员担纲! (是那种超大的肚子唷~) Shelley plays Helena Peabody, a rich and powerful philanthropist who sparks nightmare after nightmare for Bette Porter (Jennifer Beals) by interfering with her career and stealing her girlfriend. Or, as Bette so eloquently puts it: "Peggy Peabody's cunt daughter is making my life a living hell!" Shelley 饰演 Helena Peabody，一位有钱有势的慈善家，而且是在 Bette Porter (Jennifer Beals饰) 的恶梦中的超级恶梦! Helena 完全扰乱了 Bette 的事业， 还偷走了她的女朋友! 或是说.. 直接引用 Bette 言之凿凿的指证吧:「Peggy Peabody 那阴险的女儿正把我推入活地狱阿!!」 While the power lesbian she plays adds some wonderful tension to season two, the character couldn't be more unlike Shelley in real life. Before "The L Word," the beautiful actress (who bears a striking resemblance to Julia Ormond and Demi Moore) had mostly played sweet-girl roles in British films and TV. 虽然饰演剧中是位带给第二季许多紧张情节的超强女同志，但现实生活的 Shelly 其 实跟剧中角色完全不像；在 The L Word 之前，这位常常被拿来与 Julia Ormond 和 Demi Moore 做比较的美丽演员，最常在英国的电视电影中扮演的，还是甜姐儿 的角色居多。 Shelley spoke with PlanetOut entertainment editor Jenny Stewart about the delicate sex scenes, being Bette's nemesis and a whole new way of thinking about sushi. Shelley小姐这次要来谈谈美妙的爱爱场景、Bette的制裁者，以及全新的寿司观感: (It was really smart to bring in the Helena Peabody character. Because it's Bette's biggest nightmare to have to compete for Tina with someone who's more successful than she is, has more power, and also someone who looks as good as she does. She's probably never had to deal with something like that before.) 问: 我们觉得剧组创造 Helena Peabody 这个角色真的蛮聪明的。这角色就是 Bette 最大的恶梦 -- 用比 Bette 更成功、更强而有力的地位来争夺 Tina ! 而且这人的 外貌也完全不输 Bette! Bette 大概这辈子没想过会遇到这样的事吧~ Exactly. If you watch season one, Bette is always the one who's in control -- she's the alpha female. She's the one everyone looks at and goes, "Whoa -- look at the power!" And then I step in and I tend to jostle her house a little bit. There's definitely a bit of argy-bargy going on there with me and her. 答: 没错! 如果你看过第一季，就会知道 Bette 永远是控制一切的那个人，她就是 那种一家之主的女强人。她就是那个大家注目的焦点: 「哇~ 看她!就是权力!」 不过呢当我这个角色出现之後，就开始一点一滴地毁坏这个状况罗! 所以我的角色和 Bette 之间呢，是绝对会有不少激烈争执的~ (It's definitely difficult for fans of the show to watch what Bette is going through this season, because they feel such an affinity for her character. But let's face it -- Bette kind of had it coming.) 问: 影迷们一定会对 Bette 在第二季经历的事感到非常难过，因为大家已经跟她 是如此熟悉又亲密了.. 不过，我们还是要面对..其实 Bette 是自找的。 And we go at it! Sometimes after some of our scenes together, the cameras will stop rolling and some people will go [makes catfight sound]. And I always say, "Hey, she had the affair! I'm not the one who messed up!" [Laughs.] But I do hope that people don't see me as this evil person with Bette. I'm very similar to Bette, but in a little more manipulative way. 答: 没错~ 就是这样! 有时候在 Bette 和我的对手戏拍完之後，工作人员还会到一 旁争执、对 Helena 不爽呢! 不过这时我都会说:「喂~ 外遇的是她唷~ 我可不是那个把一切搞砸的家伙!」 (笑) 不过我还是希望大家别把我当成对 Bette 不好的坏人啦! 其实我的角色跟 Bette 很相似，不过.. Helena 比较有手腕一点罗 :) (I know you're straight, and for some of the cast members and guest stars, their love scenes on "The L Word" were their first ever. But what a unique situation you've stumbled upon. Not only do you have lesbian love scenes, but you have them with a pregnant woman who's also pregnant in real life. How did you approach these scenes with Ilene Chaiken and Laurel Holloman? Because it's actually pretty groundbreaking, and certainly not something anyone has ever seen on television before.) 问: 我知道你不是拉，同样在 the L word 演员和客串演员中，很多人都是第一次接触 到拉子的性爱场面；不过你接触到的可比别人还厉害；不仅是女同志的性爱场景， 而且是与一位真实生活中真的怀孕的怀孕角色对戏! 你与制作人 Ilene Chaiken 和 Laurel Holloman 之间是怎麽处理这件事的阿? 因为这真的非常地前卫耶， 而且这完全是不曾在电视上发生过的情节! Well, by the time I had the first scene with Laurel, I'd been in Vancouver a month or so filming and had been spending time all my time onset with her. We were very comfortable with each other, very relaxed, and we talked a lot about what we were going to do. And actually, Laurel really bared all; she was exposing herself at such a pregnant stage and in a way that hadn't been done before, which is quite incredible. 答: 嗯.. 我与 Laurel 第一次拍摄性爱场景的时候，我已经到温哥华拍了一个月 的戏，而且全部都是和 Tina 对戏.. 所以其实我们已经对彼此颇熟悉，也相处很 愉快、轻松了。我们在这场戏之前对此讨论了很多，而实际上呢，Larual 才是承 受了全部的人: 她必须在那种怀孕阶段下还做些裸露，而且这完全是首创先例的! 这才是最神奇的地方吧! I have to say, the first time I took Laurel's clothes off, and the first time Helena touches her, personally for me it was really hard, because I was nervous about her response. So I kept saying to her, "If I do anything that makes you uncomfortable, you can just push me away and I'll be OK -- just please feel comfortable enough to be honest with me and tell me the truth." The first time we did it, it wasn't great, but after a few takes it just became very easy and it was very relaxed, very ... natural. 我必须承认..第一次我把 Laurel 的衣服褪下来、第一次 Helena 抚摸她的时候， 其实对我个人而言是颇困难的，因为我实在非常担心她的反应! 所以我一直跟她说: 「如果我做了任何让你觉得不舒服的事，你尽可以随时推开我，我完全OK! 请一定要觉得够舒适、对我有话直说!」我们第一次拍摄的时候，是不大好， 不过拍了几个镜头之後，真的就变得很容易、而且很放松了，就是变得..很自然~ (I think it seems natural to the viewer, which is interesting because it's a lot to take in. Yes, it is groundbreaking in that you're watching a real live pregnant woman having a lesbian love scene on television, but it's not really shocking per se-- probably because the viewers are so familiar with Tina's character.) 问: 其实我想对於这些有兴趣又很投入的观众而言，应该会很自然啦! 没错， 在电视尺度上，一个真的怀孕的演员进行一场拉拉的性爱场景，是非常前卫； 不过其实在这里并不会让人觉得很震憾... 因为观众们早已对 Tina 这角色非常 熟悉了.. And I have to say that I think it looks beautiful, and I think Laurel just looks amazing in the scene. And when she's in the water, I think that was such a great idea. A pregnant woman in water -- its exactly where she's going to feel most natural and most comfortable. There's no gravity, its nice and freeing. But there was one really funny story. 答: 而且我一定要说，我觉得那场景真的很美，而且我觉得 Laurel 在那场景中 真的是非常棒。当她在水中的时候，我就想这真的是很赞的主意! 让一个怀孕的 女人在水中... 一定让她觉得非常自然也是最舒服的吧! 因为在水中没有重力阿， 所以就会蛮好的而且很自由! ... 不过这边有一个很有趣的小故事唷! What is it? 问: 什麽故事? There is a scene with Laurel where I am sort of under her dress, between her legs. And I was asking the director, Ernest Dickson, for some advice on what my facial reaction should be while I was doing that. In the scene, I'm lying down with my face up her dress, you see, and I'm supposed to be really languidly enjoying this. So Ernest said to me "OK, Rachel, what I do when I'm doing this with my wife, it's like I'm sucking on this big, great, enormous, juicy piece of ... SUSHI." [Laughing.] 答: 有一幕呢，是我算是有点在 Laurel(Tina) 的连身裙底下，在她的双脚间... 那我就问导演 Ernest Dickson 说，我的脸部表情该是如何的呢? 因为在这一幕中， 我是躺着面对着她的连身裙.. 你可以想像.. 这对 Helena 而言，应该是非常瘫软 无力般地享受的一刻.. 所以导演就跟我说: 「好! Rachel, 如果是我跟我老婆来 进行的话呢，我会像是在享用一个超大、超棒、超多汁的...握寿司!」 (笑) (小波: 咚...昏倒) I thought he was going to say, you know, mango or melon or strawberry. I mean, sushi ... can you imagine?! 我本来阿，以为他要比喻成，你知道的，芒果啦、甜瓜啦或是草莓之类的! 呃.. 握寿司耶?!! 你能想像吗?! ([Laughing] Well that is one bizarre analogy, and certainly one I've never heard before. You're from England, and the show has aired over there already. What do your parents and family think of you being on TV's first-ever lesbian series?) 问: (笑) 嗯.. 这是我听过最奇怪的比喻罗! 而且绝对是前无古人的比喻! 你是从英国来的，而这部影集已经在那边上映了，你的父母亲友对於你在这部 史上第一部女同影集里担纲..有何看法呢? Actually my parents are very cool about it. But what's really funny is that all the work I've done before in England has always been more sort of the ... Mary Poppins type character. You know, sweeter than sweet. There's one film in particular that is really a big family film there, very popular. My nieces loved for me to visit them at school, because all of their friends would go, "Oh! You are that woman from that movie!" I bet my nieces' reaction to me doing an American role will be, "Oh, so you kiss boys?" And I'll be, "No, I kiss girls." And they'll be "Oh, you kiss girls?" [Laughs.] 答: 其实我父母完全可以接受啦，不过我觉得最妙的是，我之前在英国的演出， 通常...都是演些可人小甜心的角色，你知道的，就是甜到不能再甜的那种~ 其中有部戏在那儿是挺热门的，我的侄女们就很喜欢我去学校找她们，因为她 所有的朋友都会说「哦哦~ 你就是那部电影里面的女生!」我敢打赌现在我参加了 美国这影集的演出，我侄女的反应一定是: 「哦! 所以你在戏里头有跟男生亲亲罗?」 那我就会说:「不!我都亲女生」然後她们的反应一定是「哦??? 你亲女生阿? @@」(笑) -- 第一次翻译，欢迎随便指正.. 多谢啦~ --

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