作者Tiunn (guesswho)
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标题Re: [请益] 国中英文动词变化考题请益
时间Sun Mar 31 15:53:44 2013
※ 引述《lilychao (liliane)》之铭言:
: 国中英文考题,动词变化
: My alarm clock _________(ring) at 6 a.m., the time when I woke up.
: 请问该填rang 还是was ringing? 为什麽?
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"rang" is more natural. Even more common is "My alarm went off at 6am". We
rarely refer to "alarm clocks", mainly because a lot of people use something
else with an alarm function, such as a mobile phone. If the alarm does its
job and wakes you up, we don't normally bother mentioning the waking up.
- You look a little tired this morning.
- That's not surprising. My alarm went off at 5am!
If it didn't do its job properly then we would mention it:
- Why were you late for work this morning?
- I'm really sorry. My alarm went off at 6 but I didn't hear it/but I slept
right through it.
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1F:→ cooxander:就算一百个美国人说该填"rang",这题还是"was ringing" 03/31 21:23
2F:推 Chengheong:rang 03/31 23:59
3F:→ zofloya:我的闹钟六点响,六点也是我起床的时间,为什麽一定要用 04/01 23:41
4F:→ zofloya:was ringing,一楼你讲个理由出来 04/01 23:42
5F:→ cooxander:这题是国中英文考题,就回到国中英文的解法,我也知道 04/02 07:57
6F:→ cooxander:现实生活中有很多与学校课本相差甚远的用法,但原PO 04/02 07:57
7F:→ cooxander:在问『国中英文考题』,可否回到国中英文上? 04/02 07:58
8F:→ cooxander:我不是要否定母语人士(论坛上的那些美国人)说得用法 04/02 07:59
9F:→ cooxander:但也像是我在 #1EY5PigA 说的,国中英文就是这样教 04/02 07:59
10F:→ cooxander:我们可不可以给上来这个版上问问题的学生/老师一点明路 04/02 08:00
11F:→ cooxander:告诉他们怎麽教 04/02 08:01
12F:→ cooxander:回到三楼的质问,我是说『这题』该选was ringing 04/02 08:03
13F:→ cooxander:没说『这句』不能写rang 04/02 08:03
14F:→ cooxander:只是觉得很怪,为什麽遇到有固定解法的『考题』,都还要 04/02 08:04
15F:→ cooxander:舍近求远,舍弃手边的参考书,跑去问英美人士呢?? 04/02 08:05
16F:→ zofloya:这一题是国中考题没有错,rang也是国中的解法,有何问题? 04/02 08:39
17F:→ zofloya:这一题在the time前面有逗号,rang是正确的答案,你不把 04/02 08:40
18F:→ zofloya:这个观念教学生,可果你认为学生不能接受或会听不懂,那 04/02 08:41
19F:→ zofloya:你就太小看学生的学习能力,除非你本身没这个文法观念 04/02 08:42
20F:→ zofloya:你再好好看你手边参考书"固定的解法"跟这一题的差异在哪吧 04/02 08:44
21F:→ zofloya:再者,你可以提一下这一题选was ringing的理由吗? 谢谢 04/02 08:47
22F:→ cooxander:理由:跟上一篇推文的一样,其他的部份与z版友无法达成 04/02 09:18
23F:→ cooxander:共识,亦不苟同其先入为主之看法,故不再讨论 04/02 09:20
24F:→ zofloya:你不苟同,我却最不屑学校老师看答案讲题目的习性,看过不 04/02 10:05
25F:→ zofloya:少出题目老师拉不下脸的解题丑态与嘴脸,硬要配合"答案"的 04/02 10:06
26F:→ zofloya:解释,让一些学生上高中时,学习起来特别吃力 04/02 10:08
27F:推 Chengheong:支持zofloya 04/02 12:04
28F:推 sitifan:台湾很多英文老师听说读写都很烂,只会根据错误的参考书 04/02 12:06
29F:→ sitifan:照本宣科,误人子弟。 04/02 12:06
30F:→ sitifan:这题应该是rang 04/02 12:07
31F:推 yangivy:这题rang没问题,但was ringing应该也没错吧? 04/02 13:52
33F:→ yangivy:在我醒来的时间点(6点),钟正在响? 04/02 13:55
34F:→ yangivy:楼上提到的确是许多老师应该改进的部分,要有审题的能力 04/02 13:59
35F:→ yangivy:但国中阶段还是着重在基本观念的建立,在学生都还不知道 04/02 14:10
36F:→ yangivy:这个时态如何使用,尚未熟悉就教他们和其它时态比较判别 04/02 14:12
37F:→ yangivy:许多中後段的学生会无法消化,可能加速他们放弃学习 04/02 14:15
38F:→ yangivy:到高中之後再以完整的文法书把概念统整,区分各个时态的 04/02 14:16
39F:→ yangivy:使用时机,加深加广,也符合教学循序渐进的目标 04/02 14:20
40F:→ zofloya:when I woke up at 6am, the alarm clock was ringing才是 04/02 14:34
41F:→ zofloya:在我醒来的时间点(6点),钟正在响,跟这一题不一样,不要 04/02 14:34
42F:→ zofloya:搞混了 04/02 14:35
43F:→ zofloya:很多会讲说学生无法消化之类的,常常是自己没办法消化而已 04/02 14:37
44F:→ zofloya:然後靠着自己是学校老师的身份,有掌控学生成绩生杀大权 04/02 14:40
45F:→ zofloya:丢弃英文专业上的讨论,想给分就给分,想扣分就扣分,学生 04/02 14:41
46F:→ zofloya:拿资料去讨论,还会脑羞成怒的也不是没看过,记恨的也有 04/02 14:42
47F:→ zofloya:一整个就是吃人够够 04/02 14:42
48F:→ zofloya:一楼那句话,让我想到一个场景: 老师:就算一百个美国人说 04/02 15:00
49F:→ zofloya:这题是rang,答案依旧是was ringing,因为分数是我在给的 04/02 15:01
50F:推 l10nel:rang 和 was ringing 都构成合文法的句子,只是意思不同, 04/02 16:34
51F:→ l10nel:如y所说那样。能理解为何国中那一套"规则"只认was ringing, 04/02 16:39
52F:→ l10nel:但想一想,进行时貌progressive aspect的概念要比非进行貌 04/02 16:41
53F:→ l10nel:还要高级一点点,如果国中程度能教progressive,没有道理不 04/02 16:41
54F:→ l10nel:把非进行貌的rang交代好,故只允许was ringing实在说不过去. 04/02 16:43