作者wisdomtanya (wisdom)
看板studyabroad
标题Re: [问题] sublease违约
时间Thu Aug 25 10:58:13 2011
haha
I think the landlord (or tenants) can file Civil Complaint (in Maryland,we call
Form DC/CV1)......................... who will win?
350 might be reasonable if and only if the tenantshould pay....
A lease obligates you to pay rent through the end of the lease.
If you break your lease, the landlord can hold you responsible for the rent
due through the remainder of the lease. However, a landlord is required
to make a reasonable effort to re-rent the apartment to limit losses
(Efforts Provision:善良管理者之义务)
If the landlord is able to re-rent the unit, you are only responsible for
the rent until the date the new tenant moves in.
However, a landlord with multiple vacant units is not required
to put a new tenant into the unit you
have vacated.
Also, a landlord can hold you responsible for costs of re-renting,
such as advertising for a new tenant.
so the short-term (seasonal) lease is 2 months... I use 2 months into
calculation.
Notice: notice to terminate lease ...............
I think the tenant has done so... (and I don't think they have this provision.
so it is not the issue.....
※ 引述《allfail (我要xx了)》之铭言:
: ※ 引述《wisdomtanya (wisdom)》之铭言:
: : normally breaking a lease costs 1 month rent=715
: : the standard lease term is 1 month
: : and in this case 2 month
: : so 715*2/12=119
: : so 350 is unbelieveable ........
: : according to Maryland's law (for assuming your state is the same)
: : the max security is 2 month rent.....
: : so 119*2=238
: : so 350 still too high
: 1. Things are not scalable this way. In general, the shorter the term,
: the more expensive the cancellation fee would be.
: 2. Even if you follow this scaling, you can only count the days that
: both sides agree that the apartment is not leased. From the conversation
: record we can see that our rentee did not decide not to rent until quite
: late in the process. There is no reason he can "rewind" and refuse to
: pay for the days before the decision. And there is usually a period between
: your moveout date and the date you let the landlord know about it.
: 3. The problem is not really about money. It has already been said; I don't
: think there is a valid contract since sublease is illegal. The real problem
: is about the responsibility; the OP seems to think somehow he does not have
: to be fully responsible for the loss of $700 for the two people combined
: due to he's not showing up. That is simply not right.
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1F:嘘 pyroarson:所以你执意要跳针就是了 今天就算sublease真的不合法 08/25 11:40
2F:→ pyroarson:这位学弟做的事让人不爽很正常,学长也没说要告他 08/25 11:41
3F:→ pyroarson:也没办法逼他一定要给钱,只是说大不了以後不联络 08/25 11:41
4F:→ pyroarson:学弟上来纯粹讨拍 要人家说他没错增加他的信心 08/25 11:42
5F:→ pyroarson:被嘘刚好,不过他至少找到了你back him up.算是达成目地 08/25 11:43
6F:→ wisdomtanya:我只是站在法律上角度探讨....你是在凶什 08/25 11:46
7F:→ pyroarson:nobody said aqwe is definitely legally correct 08/25 11:49
8F:→ pyroarson:why are you so eager to discredit him? 08/25 11:50
9F:→ wisdomtanya:法律课上的讨论本来就是这样 我只是就我认知提出看法 08/25 11:53
10F:→ painkiller:法律上有什麽好探讨的 连约都没签 08/25 11:53
11F:推 blackacre:完全不懂P兄有什麽权利骂W兄 08/25 11:55
12F:→ wisdomtanya:少充满情绪字眼 ... 08/25 11:56
13F:→ pyroarson:之前就说过...法律上本来就对口头上说要承租的人没有约 08/25 11:58
14F:→ pyroarson:束力... 而且也没必要讲法律 今天是有人要告谁吗? 08/25 11:59
15F:→ pyroarson:不付350,会影响credit score吗?会坐牢吗?什麽都不会 08/25 11:59
16F:→ pyroarson:只是有可能影响自己的人际关系... 这点你拿法律出来 08/25 12:00
17F:→ pyroarson:是有帮到什麽? 用法律帮他找回学长的关爱? 08/25 12:00
18F:→ wisdomtanya:who is him? aqwe? I don't know both parties.... 08/25 12:00
19F:→ wisdomtanya:so 不用讨论了 就来滥骂就可以了??? 08/25 12:02
20F:→ pyroarson:你讨论的东西有什麽意义?学长违法?所以去检举他吧 08/25 12:03
21F:→ pyroarson:学弟没错? 所以不用付350? 08/25 12:06
22F:→ pyroarson:他不爽不用付350你知我知独眼龙也知 又啥好讨论的 08/25 12:06
23F:→ Jrecht:此事件的发生地似乎是在NY state,要讨论也用NY州规定讨论 08/25 12:09
24F:→ Jrecht:较有实益 08/25 12:09
25F:推 evilove:我倒很乐意知道,多点法律常识不错阿:) 不需要这麽冲吧 08/25 12:10
26F:→ wisdomtanya:ha.the issue here is if the amount 350 is reasonab 08/25 12:11
27F:→ wisdomtanya:我从头就认为 没有法律效力 not binding 08/25 12:13
28F:→ pyroarson:since there are no legal issues, because nobody is 08/25 12:13
29F:→ pyroarson:going to court, whether or not it is reasonable 08/25 12:14
30F:→ Jrecht:不然美国那麽多州 是否来个转租规定总整理 让大家了解清楚 08/25 12:14
31F:→ pyroarson:is purely subjective. 08/25 12:15
32F:→ pyroarson:or...as you've so aptly pointed out, he can refuse 08/25 12:16
33F:→ pyroarson:to pay any amount, and he would still be in good 08/25 12:17
34F:→ pyroarson:legal standing. 08/25 12:18
35F:→ pyroarson:But that's not going to stop ppl being pissed 08/25 12:18
36F:→ wisdomtanya:你不是自己都说 没有 约束力????...那期待我说什 08/25 12:28
37F:→ coloru:这样都能战..... I 服了 you ~~~ 08/25 13:01
38F:→ casey72017:题外话,整篇+推文文法错好多,w老兄你还是打中文吧...XD 08/25 13:09
39F:→ pyroarson:楼上害我在仔细检查自己的文法= = 08/25 13:14
40F:推 george31708:为什麽明明可以打中文还硬要打英文?自曝其短? 08/25 14:23
41F:→ wisdomtanya:cool... now English becomes an issue.... 08/25 18:41
42F:嘘 sharpshoot:砍了一篇又来一篇喔? 08/25 22:01
43F:→ wisdomtanya:so what is ur point? I just tried to explain sth. 08/25 22:13
44F:→ arabesque:整篇根本就不是法律问题 是做人问题 08/25 22:16
45F:→ arabesque:试问你敢不敢借钱给这位学弟? 你不写借据的话 08/25 22:17
46F:→ arabesque:你会不会怕他跟你说 学长请你高抬贵手 上次跟你借的钱 08/25 22:21
47F:→ arabesque:有点多? 可不可以晚一点再还? 法律上当然有得吵啊 08/25 22:21
48F:→ arabesque:钱的case可能不一样 除非现金交易 不然银行都会有记录 08/25 22:22
49F:→ arabesque:但是人跟人之间的互动互信完全都被破坏了 08/25 22:23
50F:→ arabesque:你讲法律问题当然可以 包含我在内板友都愿意知道更多 08/25 22:23
51F:→ arabesque:只是你的写法会让人不爽 像是开头的haha... 08/25 22:24
52F:→ arabesque:就让人觉得你好像在替讨拍拍的原po背书 08/25 22:25
53F:→ arabesque:乡民这麽多总有人看得不爽吧 嘘你也是正常会发生的事 08/25 22:28
54F:嘘 pyroarson:对 我就是不爽的一个,请你用法律告诉我为什麽我不能对 08/25 22:30
55F:→ pyroarson:你不爽... 08/25 22:30
56F:→ pyroarson:不是说不能纯讨论法律角度,只是你今天的写法就是: A本 08/25 22:32
57F:→ pyroarson:来说要给B$$$,後来又不给。B没有错因为没有法律上的问 08/25 22:33
58F:→ pyroarson:提(没有契约),A卖得东西不合法(工厂流出品) 所以B不用 08/25 22:34
59F:→ pyroarson:想跟A拿钱 08/25 22:34
60F:→ pyroarson:第二个AB搞反= = 08/25 22:34
61F:推 Maccer:请注意用词!不要触犯版规 08/25 22:35
62F:→ pyroarson:所以上法庭谁会赢?哈哈! 08/25 22:35
63F:→ pyroarson:说要给又不给....举世皆然的会让人不开心吧? 08/25 22:36
64F:→ stinktofu:一句话:学弟想黑吃黑(如果SUBLEASE不合法) 08/25 22:38
65F:→ stinktofu:学弟想白吃白(如果SUBLEASE合法) 08/25 22:39
66F:→ stinktofu:他就是想不付!!!! 08/25 22:40
67F:嘘 sharpshoot:#1CJLD2Po 不是很爱讲伦理道德? 08/25 22:56
68F:→ wisdomtanya:看来有人要学 情绪管理了 hahahahahaha 08/25 22:56
69F:嘘 shawncarter:搞不清楚状况 主要的问题根本跟法律无关 08/25 22:59
70F:→ wisdomtanya:我觉得 两造当初都想便宜行事 才会此结果... 08/25 23:02
71F:→ wisdomtanya:就算跟法律无关 so what? 我就不能 探讨吗/? 08/25 23:05
72F:嘘 sharpshoot:嘘也是一种探讨罗 08/25 23:46
73F:→ wisdomtanya:to learn how to respectis important... 08/26 00:55
74F:→ painkiller:就法律上来说 没有respect 完全合法阿 :) 08/26 01:00
75F:→ wisdomtanya:haha..........childish.... 08/26 01:03
76F:→ painkiller:别人在谈尊重你讲法律 跟你讲法律就开始人身攻击罗 08/26 01:10
77F:→ wisdomtanya:haha.. do u really want to talk about legal issues 08/26 01:16
78F:→ wisdomtanya:or just want to put opposite words... 08/26 01:22
79F:嘘 sharpshoot:childish算不算人身攻击的字眼呢? 科科 08/26 01:41
80F:→ moxv:w到底是真懂还是装懂啊?之前第1篇贴了违约金只有一个月的 08/26 02:43
81F:→ moxv:2/12,因为只违约两个月,後面法律条文应该就不用再拿出来现了 08/26 02:44
82F:→ moxv:然後还说我学校宿舍两人房合法住五个人也太松了,你住海边吗? 08/26 02:45
83F:→ wisdomtanya:第一2/12 不是拿违约两个月 是法定最高security限制 08/26 02:54
84F:→ moxv:我知道是第一2/12,你不要跳针,且不知道干嘛扯违约金,大家明明 08/26 02:58
85F:→ moxv:就再讨论房租如果没有入住应该要付多少钱 08/26 02:58
86F:→ wisdomtanya:第二 您认为deposit是不可refundable这还需要讨论 08/26 03:04
87F:→ wisdomtanya:第三 我觉得贵校要求宽松 这只是 我的看法 不能发表吗 08/26 03:07
88F:→ moxv:那我问你我房子押金150,违约两个月,请高见一下我拿回多少合理 08/26 03:24
89F:→ pyroarson:W的跳针行为才是childish...讲尊重你一直讲法律= = 08/26 04:09