※ 引述《dale (冰城城主)》之铭言： : ※ 引述《dale (冰城城主)》之铭言： : : 但还是不能解释为什麽不能读成：loneliness -- a leaf -- falls : : （当然或许是可以的，一首诗之多层解读之类的，但这时还是希望 : : 有 cummings 的笔记呀──不过，或许我们也因此不会那麽喜欢这首诗。^^;） : 其实这首诗「无法阅读」的情况还不算严重， : 与其说是无法阅读，其实只是没有固定阅读方法罢了。 : 但如果延伸到一些现代、後现代作品呢？例如一些图像诗， : 真的没办法付予声音的那种（更不用说什麽诗和歌的关系了）， : 这样还能探讨诗的节奏性、音乐性吗？当诗本身是编辑器 : 而不是「作品」，诗人只是操作者而不是「作者」， : 那诗的作者是不是变成了读者？ 所以"作者已死"... No wonder Roland Barthes would say "the death of the author" and Foucault would like to ask "what is an author." That is also an interesting question for the author to ask him/herself. And we still have to take into account the discrepancy, the schizophrenic intendency (borrowed from Deleuze and Guattari) between the author and the persona, between the author and the implied author, between the author and the reader, among persona, tone, and voice. 对我而言, there is nothing to lament for every age is lamenting and complaining about the poetics of the time. And what is poetry? It seems to be the ultimate question. And the easiest anwswer and the most elusive one is everything is poetry, everything is poetry, if the reading is poetic...(perhaps too poststructural- ist here) 至於节奏性, 音乐性, 传统的诗法虽然被颠覆 可是这也给了我们对於所为节奏以及音乐的新的认知, 意义与想像. 想必blank verse and free verse 在推展的当初 也是相当的受到质疑与挑战吧 (and there is to some extent the will to power, isn't it?) Not that form is be destroyed; there is nothing outside form [ c'est comme il n'y a pas de hors-texte]; either form is content (structural- ism), or we see the revival of formalism in the 90s; yet the idea, or the traditional understanding of the form can be deconstructed, can be transformed. 今天晚上随便翻了Roland Barthes's <<流行体系>> he distinguishes the "vetement-image" and "vetement-langue"(?), (I don't have the book at hand right now...the terminologies might be wrong...or not really the ones used by Barthes himself) So, similarly, there can be at least two different dimensions of a poem: the "poem-image" and the "poem-language" (and of course the categories and the categorization can be infinitesimal). : 喵……*叹* Don't lament, but to celebrate (that's the postmodern attitude). Let the reader be the author, the author the reader, that's how the parati- sm, or how the relationship bewteen the master and the slave works. -- 纵然阳光可以带给人们希望 但也要心中充满希望 才看得到阳光!! --

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