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完整标题:‘It is not COVID-19’: Indonesian health official mixes up disease and virus 发稿单位:The Jakarta Post 发稿时间:Feb 25, 2020 撰 稿 者:A. Muh. Ibnu Aqil 原文连结:https://tinyurl.com/qunrcrt A Health Ministry official said on Monday that the Japanese national who teste d positive for the novel coronavirus upon his return from a trip to Indonesia was "not a case of COVID-19". 印尼政府表示,某日本人自印尼返日本後,被检出新冠病毒阳性反应,「并非 COVID-19 案例」。 Secretary Achmad Yurianto of the Health Ministry's disease control and prevent ion directorate general said that according to Japanese authorities, the man w as infected with “Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome coronavirus 2" – or SARS -CoV-2 – and insisted that SARS-CoV-2 was different from COVID-19. 印尼 CDC 主任 Achmad Yurianto 说,依据日本权责单位资料,该日本人是感染 SARS-Co V-2 病毒,坚持不同於 COVID-19。 “There [in Japan], he was diagnosed by doctors to have been infected with SAR S coronavirus type 2,” Yurianto told The Jakarta Post on Monday. Yurianto 周一告诉 Jakarta Post:「该日本人被诊断感染 SARS-CoV-2」。 When the Post asked Yurianto to elaborate on his insistence that the Japanese man did not have COVID-19 despite testing positive for SARS-CoV-2, he maintain ed his earlier statement. Jakarta Post 询问 Yurianto 为何刻意坚称该日本人并无 COVID-19、即便是 SARS-CoV- 2 阳性反应?Y 氏仍保持之前说法。 In an earlier interview with kompas.com, Yurianto claimed that coronavirus dis ease 2019, officially named COVID-19, was different from SARS-CoV-2. 更早之前Yurianto 被 kompas.com 访问时,Yurianto 宣称 COVID-19 不同於 SARS-Co V-2。 "What we have now is a COVID-19 epidemic. There are experts saying that COVID- 19 is different from SARS CoV-2, and that the differences reach 70 percent,” he said. Y 氏:「我们知道现在 COVID-19 大流行。专家们说 COVID-19 异於 SARS-CoV-2,而其 差异达 70%」。 Yurianto said he believed that the two were different because in dealing with Indonesian crew members of the Diamond Princess cruise ship, Japan had consist ently referred to their illness as COVID-19 rather than saying that they had t ested positive for SARS-CoV-2. Yurianto 说,他相信这两者不同是因为钻石公主号上的印尼籍员工是 COVID-19 病症而 不是说他们 SARS-CoV-2 阳性。 The International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses (ICTV), which is responsibl e for naming and classifying new viruses, announced on Feb. 11 that the virus that causes COVID-19 (coronavirus disease 2019) "has been named 'severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2' (SARS-CoV-2)". 负责命名病毒的 ICTV 於 2 月 11 日宣告造成 COVID-19 病症的病毒是 SARS-CoV-2。 The World Health Organization has also published a special webpage on naming t he new coronavirus, which states that "the virus responsible for COVID-19" is named "severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2)". The subsequent section has the subheading "Why do the virus and the disease have different names?", and provides a clear explanation. WHO 也做了同样的宣告,也有详细解释。 On Feb. 22, the Tokyo Metropolitan Government announced that the Japanese man was a Tokyo resident in his 60s. In related news published the same day, natio nal broadcaster NHK reported that the man was diagnosed on Feb. 19 upon his re turn from a family vacation in Indonesia, but did not specify the local destin ation. It also said that he had gone to a medical facility on Feb. 12 with "co ld-like symptoms". 2 月 22 日,东京市政府对外宣告该日本人年纪约 60 岁;NHK 则报导该日本人於 2 月 19 日自印尼返过後确诊(并未提及停留地区)。另 2 月 12 日因感冒症状就诊。 Yurianto said that while the man was in Indonesia, he had only visited Bali an d had not shown any symptoms of COVID-19. Yurianto 表示此人仅去过峇里岛,并未出现 COVID-19 病徵。 Meanwhile, Omni Hospital Pulomas vaccinologist Dirga Sakti Rambe said that sim ilar cases could be going undetected, as several cases had been reported of pe ople infected with SARS-CoV-2 who had not shown any symptoms of COVID-19. Omni Hospital Pulomas 的免疫专家 Dirga Sakti Rambe 说,一些 SARS-CoV-2 阳性者 并无 COVID-19 症状。 “[Asymptomatic] cases like this would not be detected at any airport around t he world. This is what makes COVID-19 management difficult,” Dirga told the P ost. Dirga 跟 Jakarta Post 说,这样在全世界的机场都无法侦测,会让 COVID-19 更难管理 。 Although ports of entry like airports should check the temperature of passenge rs according to guidance from the WHO, cases of infection could still miss det ection, he said. 虽说依据 WHO 指南需在机场检查旅客体温,但仍可能错漏。 “This is not the fault of the airport’s detection system, but the character of this disease. It is getting harder to control the outbreak because of asymp tomatic transmission,” said Dirga. “That’s why it must be followed up, wher e he went, etc. Ideally, we should be tracking his [close] contacts.” Dirga 说这并非机场体温检测问题,而是疾病的特性。这让疾病散播控制越来越难,所以 必须追踪病人去向以及接触的人。 On Monday, NHK reported that the Tokyo government had identified around 80 peo ple as the man's close contacts and instructed them to remain at home in self- quarantine, and that it was continuing to surveil their condition. 周一 NHK 报导日本政府已确认约 80 人跟此人有密切接触并实行居家隔离,持续监控他 们的健康状态。 --



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1F:→ sakura3: 对不起我看不懂!是印尼在狡辩装傻吗? 24.114.66.105 02/27 04:13
2F:→ elguapo: 貌似是 42.73.116.147 02/27 04:17
3F:→ watanmila: 小感冒啦 49.216.13.76 02/27 04:22
4F:推 hugoyo: ...... 95.90.222.245 02/27 04:49
5F:推 baelrog: 原来是SARS啊,我还以为是COVID19呢 134.9.253.251 02/27 04:50
6F:推 kinomon: CDC 主任??? 223.139.227.18 02/27 04:54
7F:→ minicll: 印尼官员认为有武汉病毒不是染上武汉肺 5.181.235.38 02/27 04:58
8F:→ minicll: 就是把病毒名字跟疾病名字当成不同的疾病 5.181.235.38 02/27 04:59
9F:→ minicll: 例如HIV vs AIDS 5.181.235.38 02/27 04:59
10F:推 hugoyo: 原来如此,染上 流感病毒 不等於 得流感 95.90.222.245 02/27 05:00
11F:→ hugoyo: 得HIV也不是得爱滋啦~~ 95.90.222.245 02/27 05:00
12F:推 JasonHuang: 我才不是喜欢有钱的男人 只是想找上进 128.62.32.149 02/27 05:02
13F:→ JasonHuang: 的人 128.62.32.149 02/27 05:02
14F:推 VirgilAeneid: SARS-COV-2 causes COVID-19 67.169.164.13 02/27 05:02
15F:→ VirgilAeneid: virus causes disease 67.169.164.13 02/27 05:03
16F:→ lzv: 真是白痴,两个是一样的 36.230.235.250 02/27 05:08
17F:推 jonsauwi: 他们在坚持什麽...123.194.172.116 02/27 05:10
18F:推 bloodyiris: 完全看不懂在跳什麽 101.9.150.96 02/27 05:13
19F:推 gigi832829: 这人在供三小180.217.250.158 02/27 05:14
20F:推 eightyseven: 笨== 42.73.173.205 02/27 05:17
21F:→ jxxxx: 带有HIV确实不等於得到AIDS125.230.221.164 02/27 05:34
22F:→ aegis43210: 印尼盖牌的意思175.182.179.145 02/27 05:35
23F:→ aegis43210: 但印尼多严重,外人完全没资讯175.182.179.145 02/27 05:35
24F:→ minicll: 用HIV例子是比较易明白而已 5.181.235.38 02/27 05:36
25F:→ minicll: 现在情况是带菌没病徵也能传染 5.181.235.38 02/27 05:37
26F:推 edwin11017: 是不是该提升印尼的旅游警戒了 115.43.131.45 02/27 06:02
27F:→ edwin11017: 印尼这样很明显是输出病例到日本了啊 115.43.131.45 02/27 06:03
28F:推 ctes940008: 问Tosca啊,前几天有提到政策 101.12.210.48 02/27 06:08
29F:推 VirgilAeneid: Tosca因为同日发文过多,被禁言7日. 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:10
30F:推 nightwing: SARS-CoV-2 病毒是武汉肺炎 非新冠肺炎180.177.132.163 02/27 06:14
31F:推 nightwing: COVID-19 是新冠肺炎 问CHO应该最清楚180.177.132.163 02/27 06:19
32F:→ yupei: 印尼产鸵鸟吗?118.167.103.108 02/27 06:23
33F:推 ECZEMA: 看吧! 就说会混淆 国内媒体讲新冠的应该都 209.205.206.42 02/27 06:23
34F:→ ECZEMA: 罚钱 还以为两个肺炎 209.205.206.42 02/27 06:23
35F:推 VirgilAeneid: SARS-COV-2 不等於 COVID-19 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:25
36F:→ VirgilAeneid: SAR-COV-2会导致COVID-19 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:26
37F:→ VirgilAeneid: SAR-COV-2就像HIV,是病毒名称 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:26
38F:→ VirgilAeneid: COVID-19就像是AIDS,是疾病名称 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:26
39F:→ VirgilAeneid: 所以HIV不等於AIDS,但是HIV导致AIDS 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:28
40F:推 nightwing: 他国得武汉肺炎 中国得新冠肺炎180.177.132.163 02/27 06:28
41F:推 nightwing: SARS-COV-2 2019-nCoV180.177.132.163 02/27 06:32
42F:推 VirgilAeneid: 楼上这里不是八卦版,不要乱搞 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:36
43F:→ VirgilAeneid: 这样乱搞自己人没有好处的. 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:37
44F:→ VirgilAeneid: 乱传播错误讯息很恶劣... 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:38
45F:推 kirakirei: 不承认就不是了? 101.12.64.92 02/27 06:39
46F:推 nightwing: Novel coronavirus pneumonia180.177.132.163 02/27 06:40
47F:→ nightwing: 这不是中国和CHO一直改名称的理由吗180.177.132.163 02/27 06:40
48F:→ nightwing: 不然 NCP COVID-19 会不会搞混?180.177.132.163 02/27 06:42
49F:推 VirgilAeneid: 楼上说他国得武汉肺炎 SARS-COV-2 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:44
50F:→ VirgilAeneid: 这就是乱说了啊... 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:45
51F:→ VirgilAeneid: 你说NCP,COVID-19,中国肺炎都算对 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:47
52F:→ VirgilAeneid: 但是说SARS-COV-2,2019-nCoV,或者是 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:47
53F:→ VirgilAeneid: 武汉病毒就是错.这些是病毒名称. 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:48
54F:推 nightwing: 中国不承认武汉肺炎 港台承认武汉肺炎180.177.132.163 02/27 06:49
55F:→ nightwing: 中国严格禁止武汉肺炎名称 但却最通用180.177.132.163 02/27 06:49
56F:→ VirgilAeneid: 你要讽刺中国乱改名字是你的事情, 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:49
57F:→ VirgilAeneid: 但不要自己连病名跟病毒名都搞不清 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:51
58F:→ nightwing: 你一直坚持区分 病毒名称 疾病名称180.177.132.163 02/27 06:51
59F:→ nightwing: 但这个又有何助益 都是同一种病180.177.132.163 02/27 06:52
60F:推 VirgilAeneid: 因为错就是错.病毒名称!=疾病名称 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:53
61F:→ VirgilAeneid: 同一种病毒可以导致不同疾病. 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:54
62F:→ nightwing: 是有几种病毒 会导致武汉肺炎180.177.132.163 02/27 06:54
63F:→ VirgilAeneid: 一种疾病名可能导致於可能多种病原 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:55
64F:→ VirgilAeneid: 你一直散步错误讯息,真的很糟糕. 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:56
65F:→ nightwing: 所以 SARS-COV-2 会出现几种疾病??180.177.132.163 02/27 06:56
66F:→ VirgilAeneid: 就算是目前只有一种不代表可以混淆 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:58
67F:→ nightwing: 所以快去跟印尼说吧180.177.132.163 02/27 06:58
68F:→ VirgilAeneid: 要用错误的讯息去讽刺中国,只是 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:58
69F:→ VirgilAeneid: 让人觉得没水准罢了. 67.169.164.13 02/27 06:59
70F:→ nightwing: 这不就是中国的目的 印尼还傻傻分不清180.177.132.163 02/27 06:59
71F:嘘 takanasiyaya: 争论白马非马不会让你防疫进步 117.19.131.37 02/27 07:01
72F:推 VirgilAeneid: VZV可以引发水痘跟带状疱疹. 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:02
73F:→ VirgilAeneid: 感冒可能是多种细菌或病毒引发. 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:02
74F:推 nightwing: 得过水痘 还是会得皮蛇 倒是没错180.177.132.163 02/27 07:04
75F:→ VirgilAeneid: 所以疾病名跟病原体名称就是不一样. 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:04
76F:→ nightwing: 但是目前武汉肺炎的病毒 就是那一只180.177.132.163 02/27 07:04
77F:推 Szss: 别分那麽细,都是武汉肺炎。 42.76.144.251 02/27 07:05
78F:推 nightwing: 直接说武汉肺炎 大家都知道是什麽病180.177.132.163 02/27 07:06
79F:推 VirgilAeneid: 你要说武汉肺炎随便你啊, 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:08
80F:→ VirgilAeneid: 但是不要说武汉肺炎=SARS-COV-2 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:08
81F:推 VirgilAeneid: 你没得过水痘,就不会得皮蛇 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:10
82F:→ VirgilAeneid: 水痘跟皮蛇(带状疱疹),症状差异很大 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:11
83F:→ VirgilAeneid: 但都是同一种病毒在不同阶段的病徵 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:12
84F:→ VirgilAeneid: 第一次感染VZV就是水痘发作. 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:12
85F:→ VirgilAeneid: 之後如果再发,就是皮蛇了. 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:13
86F:→ kinmengon: 难怪印尼一直零病例 39.8.62.225 02/27 07:14
87F:→ VirgilAeneid: 感染VZV後,它会永久潜伏在神经节 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:15
88F:推 selvester: 冠状病毒 强致病性 就只有3种 其中两种 110.26.62.255 02/27 07:15
89F:→ selvester: 就是SARS沙士和SARS II武汉肺炎 110.26.62.255 02/27 07:15
90F:→ VirgilAeneid: 直到适当时机再发作,变成皮蛇. 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:16
91F:推 selvester: 致病性根源 和 临床病理要分开看… 110.26.62.255 02/27 07:20
92F:→ selvester: 照楼上说的 肺癌StageI II III IV都是 110.26.62.255 02/27 07:20
93F:→ selvester: 不同疾病… 110.26.62.255 02/27 07:20
94F:→ minicll: https://bit.ly/3cdpmow 5.181.235.38 02/27 07:31
95F:推 VirgilAeneid: 严格来说,目前SARS-COV-2已经有多种 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:37
96F:→ VirgilAeneid: 基因上的改变,但是整体算是同一种 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:37
97F:→ BroSin: 继续盖牌 完美0确诊 49.98.155.186 02/27 07:38
98F:→ VirgilAeneid: 有可能久了以後,差异会大到要用不同 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:38
99F:→ BroSin: 亚洲防疫破口 扯後腿国家 49.98.155.186 02/27 07:38
100F:→ VirgilAeneid: 名称来代表差异过大的武汉病毒. 67.169.164.13 02/27 07:39
101F:推 david7112123: 印尼 盖牌讲干话 有人敢信 107.77.224.226 02/27 07:41
102F:推 amyflower: 不承认,不验,0确诊...... 36.224.48.8 02/27 07:59
103F:→ SRadiant: SARS-COV-2在NCBI上的序列看起来还没多114.137.134.128 02/27 08:10
104F:→ SRadiant: 少变异,GISAID没帐号,还在申请中114.137.134.128 02/27 08:10
105F:→ SRadiant: 一个是病毒名称,一个是疾病名称,如此114.137.134.128 02/27 08:13
106F:→ SRadiant: 而已。有时一个疾病可能会有多个成因,114.137.134.128 02/27 08:14
107F:→ SRadiant: 有时一个病毒可能会造成多种疾病。此例(114.137.134.128 02/27 08:14
108F:→ SRadiant: 武汉肺炎)刚好是一对一,不会搞混,但114.137.134.128 02/27 08:14
109F:→ SRadiant: 还是要有正确的观念114.137.134.128 02/27 08:14
110F:推 aoc902001: 他身上有新冠状病毒,但他没有武汉肺炎 42.76.249.118 02/27 08:41
111F:→ aoc902001: 的意思??阿这不就是无症状确诊病人。 42.76.249.118 02/27 08:41
112F:→ SRadiant: 要看各国对於COVID-19确诊的定义,目前114.137.134.128 02/27 08:44
113F:→ SRadiant: 看到多为核酸检验阳性即为确诊,不管有114.137.134.128 02/27 08:44
114F:→ SRadiant: 没有临床症状,临床症状是做为会不会检114.137.134.128 02/27 08:44
115F:→ SRadiant: 验的依据114.137.134.128 02/27 08:44
116F:→ minicll: WHO定义是只要病毒阳性,有没有病徵都是 5.181.235.38 02/27 08:48
117F:→ minicll: 确诊 5.181.235.38 02/27 08:48
118F:推 yuinghoooo: 大家别怕,他得到武汉肺炎,不是新冠 36.229.104.135 02/27 08:52
119F:→ yuinghoooo: 肺炎 36.229.104.135 02/27 08:52
120F:推 j2squared: 都只会导致武汉肺炎这样分哪有差 101.12.16.129 02/27 09:02
121F:→ j2squared: 只是让人可以玩文字游戏而已 101.12.16.129 02/27 09:03
122F:推 asd0112: 乱扯一通 台湾要小心印尼成防疫破口 114.45.105.183 02/27 09:27
123F:推 jimmylily: 印尼你...囧 123.192.78.191 02/27 10:56
124F:推 birdhouse1: 推V大澄清101.136.225.176 02/27 11:59
125F:推 aeoleron: 人被杀了就会死 this is a pen223.136.194.229 02/27 12:36
126F:嘘 EBVirus: 无症状感染者的意思 117.56.14.73 02/27 12:49
127F:→ EBVirus: SARS-COV-2是病毒名 COVID-19是病名 117.56.14.73 02/27 12:50
128F:推 l2272: 有一篇新的可是说印尼防疫好棒棒呢^_^ 1.161.130.4 02/27 14:36
129F:推 lucypudding: 高调 123.215.40.55 03/16 14:02







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