作者erric (大神一郎)
看板medstudent
标题Re: [讨论] 请问stroke
时间Wed Jul 28 09:40:08 2010
※ 引述《shobow (smile)》之铭言:
: 曾经有次值班,住了一个ischemic stroke的病人
: 不过似乎不太严重,brain CT无明显finding,muscle power 有一边稍微弱一点
: 当时刚住院上来量血压约140
: 因为病人是北部某center某科vs的妈妈,病人孙子似乎也是那一家不知是clerk还是intern
: 当时只有孙子和一些亲戚陪同
: 因为病人血压就约140~150附近,想说ischemic stroke血压可容忍高一点
: 所以我也没开降血压的药
: 但是那个孙子就过来了,跟我说血压似乎还要"再高一些"
: 就在当晚一直叫我开normal saline升一下血压 @@"
: 病人年纪大了,我想不要灌太多水,而且也跟他解释我们会再看病人的变化
: 但孙子就搬出他在那家center教的,说要升血压才行,还说是他们的CR有教过~~
: 还说他有看过某某PAPER也是这样说的,我就当下开了一瓶STAT的N/S
: 结果急诊加病房共两瓶,病人隔天似乎就有点喘起来了~~~~........
: 请问真有这个理论嘛?血压都140了,还要硬灌N/S说要升血压,而且病人也有点年纪了~~~
: 各位不知怎麽解释....
I am a neurologist. Stroke patient's BP have never been evelevated in
my clinical practice except critical case with impending neurogenic shock.
However,I've encountered that an attending stuff (CVA specialist
in T hospital) ordered dopamine to elevate stroke patient BP.
The goal BP is around 160( or 150, I forgot). Whatever, this method
is not guideline. Doing no harm on patients does not only depend on
guideline but also clincial condition.
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1F:推 bestbsn:The first day BP of U-shape curve also indicates that 07/28 09:55
2F:→ bestbsn:SBP around 150 mmHg may have favorable prognosis. 07/28 09:56
3F:推 tcacycle:because of the "Steal effect" @@?? 07/28 18:07
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