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※ 引述《MRZ (台大历史系教授......Orz)》之铭言: : ※ 引述《sginkgo (腐海生福田)》之铭言: : : 请问作者本人真的有恋童癖吗? : 可能有之. : : 乍听此八卦我觉得很震惊... : : 我知道爱丽丝是取样真人,那作者真的对真人怀抱性的兴趣吗? : : 那他表达的方式还真是令人敬佩. : : 谢谢. : 没有证据显示作者Lewis Carroll跟爱丽丝的原型Alice Liddell之间有什麽暧昧关系, : 顶多拍了她一些cosplay照片而已,不过这些cosplay照片是英国维多利亚时期的上流社 : 会的嗜好,故这方面尚有待争议也. : 然而真正耐人寻味的是Carroll生前日记在死後被其家族剪掉某些页面,盖上面曾透漏 : 他跟一名叫做"Ina"的女子似乎有不寻常的"关系",而这位"Ina"是谁哩?在他所可能认 : 识的广大女性亲友中,只有两名女士名叫"Ina",一个是Alice Liddell的姐姐,另一个 : 是Alice Liddell的妈妈... : 所以有人怀疑Carroll先生若不是吃了爱丽丝的姐姐就是吃了她的妈妈,甚至进一步推 : 断出爱丽丝可能就是Carroll所不能承认的私生女... : 禾斗禾斗,反正是八卦,看看就好. "The Carroll Myth" The accepted view of Dodgson's biography has been challenged recently by a group of scholars led by Hugues Lebailly and Karoline Leach and others who argue that Dodgson's diaries and letters reveal him to have been very different in many key aspects from the traditional image. Leach's book, In the Shadow of the Dreamchild, in particular has raised a considerable amount of controversy. Lebailly has endeavoured to set Dodgson's child-photography within the "Victorian Child Cult", which perceived child-nudity as essentially an expression of innocence. Lebailly claims that studies of child nudes were mainstream and fashionable in Dodgson's time and that most photographers, including Oscar Gustave Rejlander and Julia Margaret Cameron, made them as a matter of course. Lebailly continues that child nudes even appeared on Victorian Christmas cards — implying a very different social and aesthetic assessment of such material. Lebailly concludes that it has been an error of Dodgson's biographers to view his child-photography with 20th or 21st century eyes, and to have presented it as some form of personal idiosyncrasy, when it was in fact a response to a prevalent aesthetic and philosophical movement of the time. Leach posed a new analysis of Dodgson's sexuality. She argues that the allegations of paedophilia rose initially from a misunderstanding of Victorian morals, as well as the mistaken idea, fostered by Dodgson's various biographers, that he had no interest in adult women. She termed the traditional image of Dodgson "the Carroll Myth".[36] She asserts his diaries show he was also keenly interested in adult women, married and single, and enjoyed several scandalous (by the social standards of his time) relationships with them. In later life many of those he described as "child-friends" were girls in their late teens and even twenties.[37] She argues that suggestions of paedophilia evolved only many years after his death, when his well-meaning family had suppressed all evidence of his relationships with women in an effort to preserve his reputation, thus giving a false impression of a man interested only in little girls. Similarly, Leach traces the claim that many of Carroll's female friendships ended when the girls reached the age of 14 to a 1932 biography by Langford Reed,[38] who Leach claims intended to suggest from this that Dodgson was a "pure man" untainted by sexual desire.[39] Sherry L. Ackerman argues that the Carroll Myth also extends to traditional, mainstream views of Carroll's spirituality.[40] Ackerman proposes that Carroll, rather than being a conservative Victorian Anglican, was actually a mystic. She links Carroll to the nineteenth century Neoplatonic Revival in Great Britain, as well as to accompanying trends of theosophy and spiritualism. The concept of the Carroll Myth has been opposed by some leading Carroll scholars, in particular Morton Cohen and Martin Gardner. [编辑] “的卡罗尔神话” 公认的看法格森的传记受到质疑最近的一组学者由雨果Lebailly和Karoline利奇和其他谁 认为格森的日记和信件表明他已经非常不同的在许多关键方面的传统形象。里奇的书,在 影Dreamchild ,特别是提出了一个相当大的争议。 Lebailly一直努力建立格森的儿童拍摄的“维多利亚儿童邪教” ,它认为儿童裸体基本 上体现了无罪推定原则。 Lebailly声称,研究儿童裸体是主流和流行的格森的时间,而 且大多数摄影师,包括奥斯卡古斯塔夫Rejlander和朱丽亚玛格丽特卡梅伦,使他们理所 当然。 Lebailly继续儿童裸体甚至出现在维多利亚圣诞贺卡-这意味着一个完全不同的社 会和美学的评估这类材料。 Lebailly得出结论认为,这是一个错误的格森的传记作家, 查看他的孩子摄影与20或21世纪的眼睛,并提出了它作为某种形式的个人特质,当时实际 上是针对一个普遍的美学和哲学的时间。 利奇提出了新的分析格森的性行为。她说,恋童癖的指控增长从最初的误解维多利亚道德 ,以及错误想法,培育格森的各种传记作家,他没有兴趣在成年妇女。她被称为传统的形 象格森“的卡罗尔神话” 。 [ 36 ]她声称他的日记显示,他还非常关心成年妇女,已婚 和单身,并享有若干可耻(由社会标准的时间)与他们的关系。在晚年,他的许多人形容 为“儿童之友”是女孩在其後期的青少年,甚至20 。 [ 37 ]她说,恋童癖的建议演变只 有多年後去世,当时他的本意良好的家庭压制所有证据表明他与妇女,以维护他的声誉, 从而使一个错误的印象一个人感兴趣的只是小女孩。同样,里奇索赔的痕迹,许多卡罗尔 的女性的友谊结束时,女孩年满14至32年的传记由兰福德里德, [ 38 ]谁利奇声称打算 建议由这一点格森是一个“纯粹的人”自持性慾。 [ 39 ] 雪利酒研究阿克曼认为,卡罗尔神话也延伸到传统的,主流意见卡罗尔的精神。 [ 40 ] 阿克曼建议卡罗尔,而不是一个保守的维多利亚时代的英国,实际上是神秘的。她联系卡 罗尔十九世纪Neoplatonic复兴大不列颠,以及伴随趋势神智学和灵性。 这一概念的神话已被卡罗尔反对一些领导卡罗尔学者,特别是莫顿Cohen和马丁加德纳。 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Carroll#.22The_Carroll_Myth.22 --



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1F:推 MRZ:这是丢进翻译机里面出现的翻译吧?XD 01/14 00:44
2F:推 Yiing:哩勒工撒洨??? 01/14 05:14
3F:推 kidoradult:为什麽我忽然看不懂中文了...Q_Q 01/14 10:17
4F:推 supertako:我也在想是不是翻译机翻译的...看不懂= = 01/14 11:22
5F:推 Connels:说中文好吗? XD 01/14 13:19
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