作者Scarborough (Lonewolf)
看板foreigner
标题Re: [问题]大家觉得要在国外待多久....
时间Mon Jul 11 04:10:24 2005
※ 引述《Vkhanna (VK)》之铭言:
: ※ 引述《Cetus (生命中的热情)》之铭言:
: : 补充一下
: : 所谓10岁以前是黄金时期
: : 是拿移民小孩做的研究
: : 也就是他们会一直待在国外
: : 比较大的孩子 一开始会学的比年纪小的孩子快
: : 但是到後来 要完全没有"口音" 也就是说让人以为他是"native speaker"
: : (这个是统计的结果
: : 方法是让其他人猜说话的人是不是native speaker)
: : 十岁以前才比较可能
: : 当然前提是要一直待在那个环境里
: : 不然要忘掉不会太难
: : 结束
: 我觉得这还是要看个人啦
: 尤其他所处的环境
: 我母亲朋友的小孩
: 北一女毕业後到波士顿
: 再念一年高中後进入 MIT
: 她的英文程度不但跟 native speaker 一样
: 她与朋友一律已用英文
: 只有跟父母的对话勉强中英参半
: 甚至她的中文我都觉得有点不灵光了
: 但是那是因为她所处的环境
: 例如当时她的高中几乎都是白人
: 大学後周遭朋友也是
: 但是我有其他的朋友
: 高一来美国 甚至更早
: 但是是在纽约的法拉盛
: 或加州的洛杉矶长大
: 结果是书写英文或许可以
: 但是口语英文 不管是流利度 或是腔调
: 与 native speaker 都还有一段距离
Uh, are you saying, that your mother's friend's child achieve the level of
native speaker in just one year? I honestly don't think that's possible. Because
it will take you a year in US to just get used to teh environment. Not to
mention that there are at least 30% of Asians in MIT.
OK, here's a little of my personal experience: I went to Cleveland, Ohio in
the age of 13. Right now I'm a 5th year student in college. It takes me
about three year so I can totally "think" in English. In my high school,
there are about 3-4 Asians in the whole high school. (8th grade to 12th grade)
I am not exactly sure whether I achieve the level of native speaker or not,
because I am never satisfied with my language ability, but when I was a
freshman in college, one American did mention I speak like a white guy...:P
No offense on your information, but from my understanding, you need SAT
higher than 1500 to get into MIT as an Asian. Because I applied there, too.
So if your mother's friend's child spent most of her life in Taiwan. (I
assume she finish up to high school in Taiwan), It's extremely hard to get
almost perfect in SAT Verbal. So yea, can you elaborated a little more? Like
she already spent some time in US before she went study abroad, etc?
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Sincerely,
Albert
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1F:推 Akidatz:and ur english is still not as good... 210.85.64.21 07/12
2F:→ Scarborough:*shrug*. I admit my writing sucks. 130.126.244.14 07/12
3F:推 asmallbox:先生 这篇文法 复数没加S 动词时态也.... 203.203.31.105 07/12
4F:→ asmallbox:Scarborough华人多 呆个十年英文也不见得好 203.203.31.105 07/12
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6F:→ Scarborough:general, plus I wrote it in a hurry. 130.126.244.14 07/13
7F:推 Vkhanna:美国人在自己论坛上的文章文法也常错误 207.180.157.15 07/13
8F:→ Vkhanna:不需要这样苛责别人 207.180.157.15 07/13
9F:推 ShiningRuby:我也觉得不要太苛求。大家打中文都不会错吗? 65.24.59.156 07/15
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14F:→ Akidatz:if im in a hurry...202.178.156.252 07/17
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