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标题[讨论] MRI 下的华格纳 Abendstern
时间Tue May 10 17:00:06 2016
男中音朋友刚传来一个影片
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCluRCd2YuM
我们讨论了一阵子
我就决定上 YouTube 回应 碎碎念一下
想说把我的回应抄到这里来
看有没有 P 币
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The film alone could in some case be misleading for those at the
beginning of the learning curve without reference to the comments
given by Michael Volle himself. Here is a link of MERKUR-interview
about this experiment, for those understanding German:
http://www.merkur.de/kultur/bariton-michael-volle-singen-abendstern-liedes-wagners-tannhaeuser-roentgenaufnahme-6370081.html
I'll try to recall some of the words of Michael Volle in English
from scratch. Please forgive me for possible inaccuracies and poor wording.
He knows Dr. Echternach in a choir (Stuttgarter Kammerchor) who
came to him one day to ask him for instrumental inspection of
the singing organ as part of his project studying some singing anatomy.
"It was not comfortable", recalled Michael Volle, and "totally
without appoggio".
He did this to some extent unprepared, and it was not appropriate
to sing something from Don Giovanni, because it would have required
too much movements of his body.
"Incredible! I never expected such a long tongue from myself...."
"The root of the tongue should never be so elevated...."
"and the tongue should be sort of touch the teeth..."
.... etc.
My comments:
Basically, people should keep in mind that this Abendstern has
been sung under a quite restricted environment and thus at
"sotto voce" and it contains demonstration of technical
"imperfections" according to Michael Volle himself as well as
one of baritone-friend of mine albeit the video is highly
intriguing and useful for inspecting the formant-formation of
vowels (not singing formant in the sense of Sundberg!).
Some words for people from Taiwan:
一位男中音朋友传来这个影片,并且提出诸多质疑。我就说,他唱的是
sotto voce 吧,在音乐会上应该不会这麽唱。於是找到上面那篇德文访
谈。我很建议看影片的同时,最好也知道 Michael Volle 本人对这个
实验的想法。要不然,万一有人一味地模仿他的口腔,可能不是一件那麽
好的事情,虽然这个影片很有趣,对於目睹口腔与舌头在每一个母音不同的
位置,也很有价值。这是为了把口腔形塑成特定的形状,让那个母音的特徵
频率]formants)放大出来,这也是我们的听觉辨认日常语音的基础。
基本上,我们最好知道,这个实验是在一个限制很大的环境下执行的,
而且 Michael Volle 被 Dr. Echternach 要求「唱点什麽吧」的时候,
他应该是没什麽准备的。来个 Don Giovanni 吧?又怕身体动得太厉害,
最後就唱了 Abendstern。
根据他自己的说法,那个地方「不很舒服」。事後他觉得,「完全没有支撑」,
而且他詑异自己的舌头怎麽会那麽长,并且还落掉了一些音。他认为,
根据一般性的物理原则来说,「舌根是不应该那麽高的」,而且「舌头
是要碰到牙齿的」。他说,他想他不会因为这个影片而调整唱法,他受
声乐训练是个很久以前的故事了,并不清楚现代的声乐学生都怎麽学习。
不过他相信,大部分人还是只根据听觉来修正自己的声音以及唱法。他
相信这种实验会带同事们一些启示。
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