作者ostracize (bucolic)
标题Re: [请问] 为何"stein"有时念"斯坦"有时念"史汀"?
时间Sun Jan 7 16:32:49 2024
How to Pronounce Jeffrey Epstein (Real Life Examples!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxjG9N0yh-8
Jeffrey Edward Epstein (EP-steen; January 20, 1953 – August
10, 2019) was an American financier and sex offender.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein
名从主人，所以不同人的姓虽然拼字相同，读音也不同。
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/epstein
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Epstein
Both Epstein and Einstein are German -Jewish names based on the German word
for stone (Stein, pronounced shtine).
Many Jews in the USA - and other countries of the diaspora- came from
countries in Eastern Europe where they spoke Yiddish, a language based on a
German dialect. In Yiddish, — Stein is pronounced closer to steen and it is
this pronunciation which is largely used for names with the -ei diphthong.
The Epstein name and pronunciation has presumably come through the Eastern
European/ Yiddish route (so epp-steen)
On the other hand, Albert Einstein, coming from a middle class German Jewish
family, would have spoken German as a mother tongue and would most likely
have pronounced the name according to standard German pronunciation
(something like ine-shtine). As the sht- combination is not known in English,
the pronunciation became corrupted (in the English speaking world) to
ine-stine.
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1F：推 MrTaxes: 原来竟然有如此渊源，感谢资讯提供.... 01/07 18:48
2F：推 chamber: 另一个考虑的因素是名字使用者是不是移民第一代仍受母语 01/07 21:27
3F：→ chamber: 影响，第二三代以後就会用美语发音方式为多。 01/07 21:27
4F：推 jollybighead: 名字通常是父母给的，该怎麽念自然是看父母怎麽发音 01/07 23:06
5F：推 chamber: 哈哈 首先一般人不知道取名的爸妈怎麽念，也不会去查证， 01/07 23:22
6F：→ chamber: 再来名字使用者可能有非常现实的考量，例如不想一直纠正 01/07 23:22
7F：→ chamber: 宁愿妥协、或者希望听起来像英文以利融入移民社会。这也 01/07 23:22
8F：→ chamber: 反应在很多汉人姓氏变成英文後的念法都非常不一样。 01/07 23:22
9F：→ MrTaxes: 想到之前那位批评课纲的北一女国文老师-区桂芝 01/07 23:47
10F：→ MrTaxes: 很多人看到她的姓"区"都直接念"屈"，但其实念"欧"~ 01/07 23:48
11F：推 jollybighead: 受母语影响不就看爸妈怎麽发音??然後小孩讲自己的名 01/07 23:51
12F：→ jollybighead: 字就是从父母发音而来??并不用查证... 01/07 23:51
13F：推 TokiwaKurumi: 语言是会改变的 01/07 23:52
14F：→ TokiwaKurumi: 不同地区有不同发音很正常 01/07 23:53
15F：推 jollybighead: 所以移民第二代才会变成美语发音，不就如此?? 01/07 23:55
16F：推 Kukuxumusu: 语言会改变啊 那天才在reddit讨论美国加拿大澳洲 有很 01/08 00:39
17F：→ Kukuxumusu: 多或欧洲（甚至中东）的地名被移植过去 但现在发音都 01/08 00:39
18F：→ Kukuxumusu: 大变 01/08 00:39
19F：推 chamber: 我认识的移民姓名是非常多元念法的，对家人，台湾同胞， 01/08 14:48
20F：→ chamber: 公司白人同事可以不同念法。谁管爸妈XD 01/08 14:48
21F：推 Kazamatsuri: 就名从主人原则，欧美多半欢迎你直接问他名字怎麽念 01/08 20:59
22F：→ Kazamatsuri: 自己乱念念错是很不礼貌的，甚至有冒犯的意思 XD 01/08 21:00
23F：推 MEOWWW: 好文 01/08 21:59