作者heavengate (单身寄生废柴)
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标题[DOAX]Fuzzy's Holy Grail Method
时间Wed Jan 5 22:48:59 2005
(这是我在DOAXCESS论坛里看到大家都称赞的方法.这家伙-Fuzzy在TeamNinja官网
上贴了二则他研究出来的泳装送礼法,这是其中一篇,我上次试了一遍但没成功,可能
没完全照做吧.我把它翻译成中文,希望对跟我一样还在为全泳装制霸的玩家有帮助.)
(新年新希望:在DOAX2出来之前全破DOAX!)
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April 2nd, 2004 - this is not an April Fools Joke
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Welcome & thanks for taking the time to try my newest gifting method!!!
欢迎且感谢您花时间试用我最新的送礼方法!!
I have spent over 1100 total playing hours trying to find the way that the
programmers intended DOAX to be played. I knew that there had to be a manner
to gift hated suits without having to rely on a long complicated strategy.
For me, this was my quest to find the DOAX Holy Grail. I believe that I have
found it!!!
在游玩总时数上我已经花了超过1100小时试着去找出程式设计师想要DOAX被玩的意图.我
想除了建立在长且复杂的策略外应该有一个方法可以将Hate等级的泳装送出去.对我而言,
这是我找出DOAX的圣杯法的任务.我相信我已经找到了!!!
Please note that I am posting my newest method far before I normally would
(there are no guarantees, as I am still testing it myself). My advice is to
try this using the least expensive hate suits until you get it down & then
move on to the most expensive ones.
请注意我这里所提及的已经比我原先预想的还更多(没有保证,我自己也还在尝试).我的建
议是用最便宜的Hate泳装来试用这个方法直到你能掌握了再前进到最贵的泳装.
The application of my newest method is unbelievably simple - but will be
typed out in long form, to make it as easy to understand as possible.
我的最新方法在应用上是不可思议的简单,但是我还是将它写成长篇大论以确保能以最简
单的方式被理解.
I have also found a faster way to gift 50+% of the disliked swimsuits - this
will be available at the bottom of my post.
我还找到了一个更快的方法来送出50%以上的disliked泳装,在这篇文章的最未可以找到.
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It appears that who you gift to & what you gift, has a direct bearing on most
girls in the same vacation. By gifting the wrong girl (or too many girls at
once) you effectively stop your target girl from accepting your hated
swimsuit. By using the right combination of v-ball play, proper hate item
gifting to your targets hate girl & proper love item gifting to your target,
all suits will be accepted.
在同一段假期中显示出你送礼的对象和礼物对於大部份的角色而言有直接的相关.送礼给
错误的角色(或者太多的角色)会影响你的目标角色接受你的Hate泳装.藉着与打沙滩排球
的正确结合,适合的Hate物品送给目标角色讨厌的对象以及适合的Love物品给目标角色,全
部的礼物都会被接受.
The hated girls that I have found so far are listed below & will be updated
as more pairings are found.
目前找到会互相讨厌的角色我将之列表於下,有找到更多的组合会再更新.
These have only been tested on vacations where the Island Tour has been
ACCEPTED.
这些是在接受Lisa的导游的条件下所测试的结果.
When gifting to Hitomi - hate gift Christie
当送礼给Hitomi时,要送Christie她讨厌的物品
When Gifting to Christie - hate gift Helena (use suntan lotion - it's cheap)
当送礼给Christie时,要送Helena她讨厌的物品(送防晒乳液,它很便宜)
When Gifting to Helena - hate gift Christie
当送礼给Helena时,要送Christie她讨厌的物品
*** It appears as though when gifting to Tina a double hate gifting strategy
will be needed - I will post this link when I find it ***
在送礼给Tina时似乎需要一个双重的hate礼物送礼法,当我找到时会再贴出来
I believe that by double hate gifting two of a targets hated girls or by
combining hate gifting as well as gifting love items to one of the targets
liked girls will result in less days needed to transfer a hated suit (I have
not tested this yet).
我相信送hate物品给二个目标角色讨厌的对象或是结合送love物品给目标角色友好的对象
会使送出hate泳装所需的天数缩短(我还没测试过).
MY ADVICE
我的建议
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Until you get good at my new method I suggest starting as Lisa, accept the
Island Tour, love gift to Christie (target) & hate gift to Helena (Christie's
hate girl). Use 13 bottles of suntan lotion for Helena as they are cheap &
Helena hates them. Choose a less expensive hate suit for Lisa to gift to
Christie.
直到你很能掌握我的方法前我建议从Lisa开始,接受导游,Love物品给Christie(目标
),Hate物品给Helena(Christie讨厌的对象).送13瓶防晒乳液给Helena因为它们很便宜而且
Helena讨厌它们.选一个较不贵的泳装让Lisa来送给Christie.
SET UP
准备
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First you will need a proper list of like, dislike & hated, items &
swimsuits.
首先你需要一个完整的物品和泳装的喜好程度表.
I always suggest to play as your target girl (the girl who you want to give
the swimsuit to) & transfer all that you can into her hotel inventory -
delete any duplicates that you do not want to keep & then drop out of that
vacation. This makes space for everything that you will be giving to your
target.
我总是建议你先用你的目标角色(你要送泳装的对象)来进行游戏且将她所有的物品都放进
collection里头,丢弃有重复的因为你不需要保留它,然後结束假期.如此使你的目标有空
间能接受你的礼物.
Items needed:
需要的物品
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I suggest buying these in advance.
我建议你事先买齐这些东西.
13 non perishable hate items to gift to your targets hate girl
13个不会被珍惜的Hate物品来送给你目标角色讨厌的对象
1 to 3 love (not like) gifts for your target girl..... (the amount will be
based on the relationship level of the target girl to the playing girl - I
have supplied my list of relationships at the bottom of this post). You will
need 1 for a like relationship, 2 for a dislike relationship & 3 if the
target girl hates the girl you are playing as.
1至3个Love(不是Like)物品来送给你的目标角色.....(你所扮演的角色和目标角色之间的
好感度将会对数量造成影响 - 我在文未有提供我的好感度表).当好感度是Like等级时你
需要1个物品,好感度是Dislike等级时你需要2个物品,好感度是Hate等级时你需要3个物品
.
1 to 3 love gifts for your partner (based off of the relationship between
the girl you are going to partner with & her feelings about the girl you are
going to use to play with)
1至3个Love物品给你的队友(你所要组队的对象和她对你所扮演的角色之间的好感度将会
对数量造成影响)
13 cheap neutral/liked swimsuits for your target girl - I use the 5k & 10k
swimsuits. You can also use any neutral/liked swimsuits that your target does
not already own to help complete thier collections. The suits can be all the
same or different if you wish.
13件便宜的neutral/liked泳装给你的目标角色 - 我都用5000或10000元的泳装.你也可以
送那些你的目标所没有的neutral/liked泳装来帮助完成她们的收藏.泳装可以是全部相同
或不一样.
1 Goal swimsuit which you wish to gift (example; the Venus)
一个你想送的目标泳装(如Venus)
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METHOD
方法
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Day 1 ;
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+ Your goal is to get your target girl & your girl you want to partner with
to 2 rising notes as soon as possible & with the fewest gifts as possible.
你的目标是要让你的目标角色与你的队友以最快的速度和最少的礼物达到2个上升音符的
状态.
This will take 1 love gift during the day or from the hotel if it is a like
relationship, 2 love gifts - 1 during the day & the other from the hotel if
it is a dislike relationship or 3 love gifts - 1 during the day, 1 love gift
from the hotel & 1 love gift the next day if it is a hate relationship.
这个需要在白天或旅馆时送出1个Love礼物当好感度在like时;在白天送1个、在旅馆送另
一个共送出2个礼物当好感度在dislike时;如果好感度是hate需要3个礼物-1个在白天、1
个在旅馆另1个在隔天送出.
Due to some girls not liking mornings I never gift my target girl or girl to
partner with in any morning timeslot through the whole vacation.
因为某些角色不喜欢早晨所以我从来不会在早晨这个时段送礼给目标角色或队友.
***Over gifting your partner will lead to possible non success***
送太多礼物给你的队友会带来失败的可能
Once your target girl has 2 notes rising do the following everyday (days 2
thru 12);
当你的目标角色有了2个上昇的音符时,照以下指示去做(第2天至第12天)
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+ Play 1 game of v-ball against your target girl if possible (any timeslot)
可能的话和你的目标角色来一场排球赛(任何时间点)
+ Gift 1 neutral/liked swimsuit to your target girl (in person) - gift this
from the hotel ONLY IF she does not show up in the afternoon or evening
timeslots.
送1件neutral/liked泳装给你的目标角色(私下) - 除非她没有在白天或傍晚出现才在旅
馆的时候送.
+ Gift a hated item to your targets hate girl from the hotel every night -
including the first night of a vacation.
每天晚上在旅馆(包括第1夜)都要送1件hated物品给你目标角色讨厌的对象.
*** DO NOT GIFT ANYONE ELSE INCLUDING YOUR PARTNER (unless you find a gifting
link which helps your cause) ***
包括你的队友在内都不可以送礼给她们.(除非你发现了一个送礼的组合可以增进你的结果
)
Note:
注意
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I have not tested what happens if you play v-ball against anyone other than
your target, nor have I tested what will happen if you lose in v-ball. I do
know that both you & your target must be in their confident state for many
days for this to work.
我还没有测试过如果你和目标角色以外的人打排球,或是打输排球会发生什麽事.但我知道
你和你的目标二个人必须要在confident的状态下这个方法才会有效.
Evening of Day 12;
第12天的傍晚
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+ Gift a neutral/liked swimsuit to your target girl from the hotel this
evening (this is additional to the one that you gifted to her during the day)
晚上在旅馆时送1件neutral/liked泳装给你的目标角色(这是在日间送的那一件的附加)
+ Gift hate item to targets hated girl as normal
照往常送1个hate物品给目标讨厌的女孩.
Day 13;
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+ Find your target in the afternoon or evening timeslot & gift her your goal
swimsuit
在白天和傍晚找到你的目标而且送给她你的目标泳装
+ If you were able to gift your goal suit in the afternoon timeslot - play
against her (or give a cheap liked gift to your target girl) in the evening
timeslot, to see if she is wearing your suit - if this is not possible, watch
for a trashed message in the hotel that night.
如果你可以在白天把你的目标泳装送出去,傍晚时和你的目标角色玩排球(或送她一个便宜
的礼物)来确定她是否穿着你送的泳装,没办法的话,当天晚上注意有无被丢弃的讯息.
IF YOUR TARGET IS NOT AVAILABLE ON DAY 13;
万一你的目标角色在第13天没出现
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+ Gift a neutral/liked swimsuit to your target from the hotel
在旅馆时送1件neutral/liked泳装给目标角色
+ Gift a hate item to your targets hate girl as you normally would
照往常送1个hate物品给目标讨厌的女孩.
DO NOT GIFT YOUR GOAL SWIMSUIT FROM THE HOTEL - IT WILL BE TRASHED!!!
不要在旅馆把你的目标泳装送出去,那会被丢弃!!!
Day 14:
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+ Find your target in the afternoon or evening timeslot & gift her your goal
swimsuit
在白天或傍晚找到你的目标角色且送她你的目标泳装
+ If you were able to gift your goal suit in the afternoon timeslot - play
against her (or give a cheap liked gift to your target girl) in the evening
timeslot, to see if she is wearing your suit.
如果你可以在白天把你的目标泳装送出去,傍晚时和你的目标角色玩排球(或送她一个便宜
的礼物)来确定她是否穿着你送的泳装.
If this is not possible, after finishing the vacation - go into exhibition
mode & see if your goal suit is listed in your target girls inventory (if it
is, she accepted it).
如果没办法的话,在结束假期时,到exhibition模式里找看看你的目标泳装是否在目标角色
的物品栏内(如果有,表示她收下了)
IF YOUR TARGET DOES NOT SHOW UP ON DAY 14
如果你的目标没在第14天出现
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+ This really sucks!!!
这真是太惨了!!!
Time to start it all over again. This happened to me once in every six
transfer attempts (approximately).
重头再来过吧,在我玩时大约六次有一次会发生这种状况.
TIPS:
小技巧
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+ If your target girl gifts you a swimsuit - wear it, especially when giving
her your goal swimsuit (not positive that this matters but it may help).
如果你的目标角色送你泳装,穿上它,特别是当你要送目标泳装时(不确定是否影响,不过大
概会有帮助).
+ Do not throw out any gifts that your target girl gifts to you until she has
accepted your goal swimsuit (again, not sure that this actually matters or
not).
不要丢掉任何你目标角色送你的礼物直到她收下你的目标泳装(同样的,不确定会有没有影
响)
+ Cheer loudly when swimsuit is accepted - this does nothing for your
vacation but it will help you let out some of the gifting frustration that
has built up!!!
大声欢呼当你的泳装被收下时,这对你的游戏一点用也没有不过会抒解一些之前送礼所产
生的挫折感!!!
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EASIER DISLIKE SWIMSUIT GIFTING
简易的dislike泳装送礼法
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+ All that is needed for 50% of the disliked swimsuits to be accepted is to
have your target girl at 2 rising notes & in confident mode for 4 continuous
days (some girls only need 3 days).
只要你的目标角色在连续4天有2个上昇音符以及confident状态下,50%的disliked泳装都
能被收下(有些女孩只需要3天)
+ During these 4 days (of beeing at 2 rising notes & confident) you should
gift her a neutral/liked swimsuit (works with love items as well) once a day
in person if possible (from hotel if not) & play one game of v-ball against
her each day.
在这4天(2个上昇音符和confident状态)当中如果可以的话你应该(不能的话在旅馆)每天
私下送她1个neutral/liked泳装(love的物品也行),以及和她打一场排球.
+ Do not gift anyone else - unless you know your targets hate girl. If you
do, than gifting this hate girl (hated items) every night from the hotel
(starting from evening 1) will definately increase your acceptance percentage.
不要送礼给其他人,除非你知道你的目标角色讨厌的对象.如果你知道,每天晚上(自第1天
起)从旅馆送1件她hate的物品给这个讨人厌的家伙将会增加你送礼的接受率.
+ Give disliked swimsuit during the 4th day of being at 2 rising notes &
confident.
在第4天於2个上昇音符及confident状态下将disliked泳装送出去.
*** This also works for your partner ***
这对你的队友也有效
** Not To Be Combined With Using My Holy Grail Method **
不要和我的圣杯法共用
I Believe that the suits that are listed as disliked suits should be moved
into the hate suit category if not accepted through this easy transfer method
- this way gamers would know which of my two methods to use for the suit that
they would like to transfer.
我觉得如果disliked泳装无法用上述简易方法送出去的话应该要归类在hate级的泳装内,
这样的话玩家就会知道他们在送泳装时要使用我二个方法中的哪一个了.
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I hope that my Holy Grail Method becomes useful to gamers of DOAX as I have
spent alot of time into finding this gifting solution.
我希望我的圣杯法对DOAX的玩家有用因为我花了许多时间来找出送礼的解决方法.
AS ALWAYS, TAKE CARE & HAPPY GAMING TO ALL!!!!
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Fuzzy Fuzzpuppy's relationship list
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This list took me over 6 hours of playtime to complete & I will explain how I
came across my findings at the end of this post.
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Ayane
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Likes: Lisa
Dislikes: Christie, Helena, Hitomi, Kasumi, Leifang
Hates: Tina
Christie
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Likes: no one
Dislikes: Ayane, Hitomi, Leifang
Hates: Helena, Kasumi, Lisa, Tina
Helena
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Likes: Hitomi, Kasumi, Leifang, Lisa
Dislikes: Ayane, Tina
Hates: Christie
Hitomi
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Likes: Helena, Kasumi, Leifang, Lisa, Tina
Dislikes: Ayane, Christie
Hates: No one
Kasumi
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Likes: Helena, Hitomi, Lisa, Tina
Dislikes: Christie, Leifang
Hates: Ayane
Leifang
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Likes: Christie, Helena, Hitomi, Kasumi
Dislikes: Ayane, Lisa, Tina
Hates: No one
Lisa
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Likes: Ayane, Helena, Hitomi, Kasumi, Leifang, Tina
Dislikes: Christie
Hates: No one
Tina
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Likes: Lisa
Dislikes: Ayane, Christie, Helena, Hitomi, Kasumi
Hates: Leifang
HOW I CAME TO THESE GROUPINGS
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+ On a brand new save file, I rested through all 14 days of a vacation so I
could get the option to leave the vacation early.
+ Upon starting a new vacation each time, I asked each girl individually to
partner up.
+ I never asked in the morning timeslot as some girls do not like mornings.
+ After asking one girl I would drop out & start a new vacation to test the
next girl - this way nothing during a vacation could hamper my results.
+ Girls who showed any music notes obviously liked the girl being used & I
listed them as such
+ If a girl had no notes:
I would buy a love item for her & then drop out
I started a new vacation & rested by the pool for all timeslots during day 1
I gifted her the love item that evening.
If the love item was trashed or returned to me the next evening in the hotel,
than I listed this as a hate relationship.
If the gift was accepted, I listed it as a dislike relationship.
+ I tested my findings on two of my xboxes, with a new save file each time &
both came up the same.
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