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http://ftr.wot-news.com/2015/02/24/insider-talks-whole-bunch-of-info/ Please note one thing: this is an info, gleaned from leaking WG internal conversations and chain letters, but the summary is insider’s representation of what the developer things. It can be wrong, but I try to doublecheck some of the info with other sources and post only the stuff that actually fits, so it should be reliable. 请注意:这些消息素材是蒐集自WG内部的讨论和信件,再由该局内人揣摩开发人员的想法 。信息可能有误,但我会拿来和其他消息来源比对,并只贴出吻合的部分,所以应该可信 - for Xbox, M6A2E1 arrives on 2.3.2015 (non HD) 大头 M6 会在 2.3.2015 登陆XB版(非 HD 版) - for PC, M6A2E1 will not be sold again (applies to EU and NA), the intent to make its owners stay really special, armor is still planned for rebalance (historical armor) when the HD model appears 不会在电脑版重新贩售大头 M6(适用於欧服及美服),意图让他保有特殊性;装甲仍预 计在 HD 化时修正回史实 - American T18 TD will be converted to artillery during the next big artillery rebalance patch. Artillery rebalance will happen at some point in the future, the one thing that could accelerate it is if the 9.6 accuracy changes prove to be really bad for arty class, otherwise it will take a very long time and has low priority. This change is the work of one of the US staff, likely The_Chieftain (SS: yup, IIRC, the proposed way is T18 – arty, replaced by T3HMC?) 预计将美国 T18 (TD) 在下次自走炮大型平衡时归类为自走炮。自走炮平衡的时间,要 看 9.6 的准度修改有没有重创自走炮的表现;要是没有,平衡将会花上很长时间且优先 度低。T18 车种更动是美国人负责,很可能是 The_Chieftain(SS: 如果我没记错,应该 是用 T3 HMS 代替?) - Minsk is getting tired of WG EU mismanagement of regular-to-unsatisfactory quality of customer service and are already planning something for it, however details are not shared by messages. A meeting is at hand. This means a lot of stuff, as WG will have to make changes to each and every language and their PR/Customer Support systems in order to “weed out” the deficiencies. (欧服办公室的问题,略) - NA server is considered the most “comfortable” community-wise, because “ people are not at each other’s throats” and the staff is quite reliable, however “they know” that the suggestions forum is pretty abandoned (almost hopeless to post anything there as of now) 美服社群被认为是最「友善」的,因为没有对立问题而且员工表现可靠;但是已知论坛的 建议区是荒废中(目前几乎不可能在那发文) - a new chat feature that is considered is to leave messages to offline friends (only those that have you as a friend as well) 正在考虑做离线讯息功能 - WoWs will share premium resources (gold) just as WoWp and WoT 战舰世界会跟战机、战车世界共用相同的金币 - WoWs vandidates for several mid-tier premium “boats” are being prepared, including a preorder one 战舰世界正在准备数艘中阶的加值「船舰」,包括一艘预购舰 - the new WG balance policy when introducing a new tank is to first add its “ historical values”, then “overnerf the vehicle and finally strengthen it up ”, because it’s easier to manage a vehicle with mediocre stats, because it involves less whines when actually WG announces nerfs and “everybody cheers ” when they get buffed 新的新车平衡政策是先「套用史实数据」,然後「把他砍过头再补回来」;因为处理表现 平庸的车较容易;也因为宣布下调性能造成的抱怨声较少,再上修性能时「皆大欢喜」 - Maus won’t be buffed despite its t9 version coming out, so no 15cm gun for Maus (a developer here states that if they were to add a 15cm gun to the Maus, the “differences” with the E-100 would make the tank “a retard-on-wheels”, since “Maus should be driven for its armor, and we won’ t balance it just because it’s not used in Clan Wars”. The tank is not for “everybody to drive, but anyone can get it”. Basically, to sum it up, adding a 15cm gun to the Maus would imbalance it and would make the W-100 look like a “wimp”, because it would be the same gun with much, much more armor, despite the E-100 being “one of the most used tanks in clan warfare”. 引进小老鼠不会造成大老鼠 buff,也就是说大老鼠不会有 150 炮。(老鼠就是卖那身装 甲,不会因为工会战都坐冷板凳就 buff 它;它是「人人都能有,但不是人人都适合开」 的车。给老鼠装 150 炮会太强,用一样的炮会让隔壁装甲不如人的 E-100 只能去玩沙) - tier 9 Mauschen should have one more set of rebalances before being added to public test, and yes, its double threads allegedly are a pain in the ass to penetrate and these things are currently “completely immune to HEAT”, thanks to the skirts + threads + hull armor 小老鼠在公测前还会再平衡一次。他的侧裙+履带+车身装甲极难穿透而且目前几乎完全 对 HEAT 弹免疫。 - no plans to buff Japanese tanks despite some devs saying that they are “ mediocre at best up to tier 6〃 in every aspect. Historically speaking, it would be impossible to rebalance, given that the Japanese guns, overall labeled as “weak”, weren’t really developed during that era. However, naval cannons are another thing. Also, for some reason, despite this performance labels, the tanks seem to be faring pretty OK in their winrate and player acceptance. Tier 7 to 10 are considered okay, many players seem to like the t7 tank autoloading gun. 就算有些开发人员评价:「日本车直到六阶最多只能算是平庸」,仍没有 buff 他们的计 画。就史实来讲根本不可能平衡,因为那段时期日本没认真研发火炮(整体来说很弱)。 但海军又是另一回事了。而且因为其他原因,他们的胜率和接受度似乎不差。七阶以上被 认为没问题,许多玩家挺喜欢七阶车那只弹匣炮 - TD’s are scarce for the Japan tree as well, they’re looking into a gun that uses a 77mm caliber shell with no better performance than the one of the regular current guns of the branch, implementing it would mean “dragging that weapon for like 3 tiers and re-using the same gun for these tanks with different names now”, also quoting one of them saying “well, it either has a gasket-pooper or a behemoth gun” (some mounting a naval gun, one-shot wonders, almost like the SU-100Y). 日本科技树也缺乏TD;他们用 77mm 炮,不比游戏中现有的要好;真要实装会变成「连续 三阶都用一样的炮,只是换个名字而已」,另一位说「不是用敲门炮,就是装巨根」(装 舰炮的版本,如 SU-100Y) - AMX 40 is now officially the worst tank ever, yet strangely, it has quite a number of fans, because “they like the ugly thing” and “duck” appearance, despite its gun being overly terrible for the tanks it faces. The rebalancing that will happen may increase its performance “slightly”. At some point (7.x era), the AMX-40 used to go backwards as fast as forwards. AMX 40 正式成为有史以来最烂的车;但奇怪的是,就算它的炮很烂,仍不少粉丝喜欢他 的鸭子外型。些下来的平衡会让它的表现「稍微」改善。曾几何时(约 7.X 版)AMX 40 倒车跟前进是一样快的呢 - WG took notice of Japanese Anime called “Kantai Collection”, where some girls are naval ships (???), it’s possible they *may* do something with the publisher corporation, same as it happened with Girls und Panzer. WG 注意到日本动画《舰队蒐藏》。「可能」会有合作,跟当初和《少女与战车》一样 (译者:去年9月东京电玩展上,《苍蓝钢铁战舰》已经宣布跟WG合作了…能不能再整合 《舰蒐》进来呢 wwww) - Some of the WG staffmembers regret introducing the Chinese line before the European one, but they had not enough resources to assemble anything that would represent the euro line at that moment and even if they had, it would have a bunch of T-44/T-54 copies too, which would have been later scrapped by other tanks as they became available. The Chinese weere “surprisingly more active in helping us assemble the line (with a few stumbles and a lot of political suffering)”, especially when they announced their interest in opening a Chinese server (with their own rules) and the result is that the thing became a huge mess with all the payments and whatnot. However, Chinese tanks are popular there (as expected), but “it’s not something that we want to do again”. 有些员工後悔在欧洲线出现前就推出中国线,但他们当时也没有足够的资料建构欧洲线; 就算有,也是一堆 T-44 和 T-55 的复制车,在新的车辆资料出现後迟早会被换掉。中国 人「比想像中更积极地协助我们建立中国线(除了少数错误和许多政治压力外)」,特别 是在宣布有意建立中国独立伺服器後。虽然结果是陆服因为种种原因而一团混乱。中国线 在那边受到欢迎,但「我们不想再搞一次。」 - on that topic, WG is unhappy to see their game being converted into full derp mode on china, but “noting we can do about it”. There, it has a very strong pay to win factor- however, it generates a lot of income for them (Type59 floods) despite having to share their earnings with a third party corp. Also, the community is nothing short of “xenophobic” and.. (on a personal note), racist (“gaijin go home” type of racism) – even a certain KongZhong developer was recorded throwing racist insults around. 承上,WG 不乐见自己的游戏被搞成陆服的模样,但是「完全无能为力」。在那,花钱者 胜利的状况非常严重;虽然要和第三方合作伙伴分享,但仍创造了大量公司收入(满坑满 谷的五九式)。而且那边的玩家不乏「仇外者」以及「种族主义者」(『蜗牛滚蛋』主义 者);甚至有看到某空中网的人员在四处散播侮辱的言论。 - BMPs and their concepts have been scrapped and shelved, there was one planned as a test, but it would have been “too high a tier” and “too weak a gun” BMP 及装步战车的概念已被废弃;曾有过测试但「车弱炮也弱」 - Churchill Black Prince is gaining fame amongst some of the staff that plays and players too, apparently the tank is “comfortable” to drive and reliable, despite the slow speed and rather weak caliber gun, it makes it up for the superb accuracy and reload along with good armor layout 黑王子在部分有玩它的开发人员以及一般玩家间建立起地位,因为这台车好开而且可靠。 虽然速度慢而且口径稍小,但极佳的准度、装填时间以及好装甲能弥补缺点。 - AT-15A is a little more popular/better winrate now that it has limited MM and increased earnings “within the expected results”, meaning the tank won’ t be seeing any more buffs or changes until the end of time AT-15A 因为有了分房保护和增加收入,其普及度及胜率都有提升「符合预期」,意思是 未来不会进一步更动这台车。 - no Löwe buffs planned 没计画 buff 狮式 - WG will track AMX CDC’S performance in the following patches and see if the tank manages too poorly having a full MM and overall worse performance than the FCM 50t. If there’s going to be a buff, it will be slight, however the MM spread will remain unchanged 会追踪 CDC 的表现,看看整体上是否比 50t 要差。若要 buff 也只会稍微更动,不会动 分房 - if you want a solid performer, buy FCM 50t and not AMX CDC, as they are certainly planning to remove it from the store 如果想买台可靠的车,选 50t,不要买 CDC;他们肯定在计画将 50t 下架 - M56 Scorpion coming to stores “soon”, it’ll have full MM as well M56 蠍式将会「很快」上架,也没有分房保护 - IS-6 won’t be removed from the store in quite a bit of time, as it’s the most purchased currently (SS: of tier 8 premiums? Unclear here) IS-6 短期内不会下架,因为他是目前卖的最好的(SS: 不确定是不是算八阶金车而已) - camo factor is still planned for rebalance, but first, WG will gather data on the TD nerf, as it’s the class that mostly “benefits from it” – meaning that they tend to camp more than any other tank, despite having the bonuses removed, since “it’s within their nature” 仍计画要将隐蔽系数重新平衡;但首先要蒐集 TD 被砍之後的数据,因为 TD 是受其影响 最深的车:他们比其他车种更蹲,因为「本该如此」,算拿掉了车种隐蔽加成也一样。 - IM involving setting certain amount of tanks on fire may get changed to be more RNG friendly 要把对方车打到起火的个人任务可能被修改,让机率问题没这麽严重 -- In church, they say to forgive! Forgiveness is between them and God; it's my job to arrange the meeting. 《 Man on Fire 》 --



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1F:推 ccc101419 : 调整强度那边让我想起了朝三暮四的狙公 妈的是把所 02/25 01:22
2F:→ ccc101419 : 有玩家都当猴子吗?? 02/25 01:22
3F:推 wahaha5678 : 想到朝三暮四+1... 02/25 01:26
4F:→ EXZUSIC : TD被砍而受惠? 02/25 01:26
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5F:推 voyager35 : 你不得不承认大部份玩家是猴子,心智上和技术上 02/25 02:07
6F:推 tai33ru : 推翻译 02/25 02:35
7F:推 ablecoxjoe : 苍蓝钢铁战舰@@? 02/25 02:43
8F:推 GilGalad : 苍钢 前年的秋番 漫画还蛮好看的 lol 02/25 02:46
9F:推 LoveIvy : 平衡已经比蜗牛好很多了 至少WG没那麽自爽到不要脸 02/25 04:00
10F:推 colin1120 : WT的野马、海盗真的惨到不像话 02/25 04:13
11F:→ colin1120 : P-47会爬输拉格也完全不能理解 02/25 04:13
飞红茶线的表示新的对空弹练不错用
12F:→ LoveIvy : 你可以去玩玩陆战 同样伤到弹药架德车是直接爆炸 02/25 04:32
13F:→ LoveIvy : 美苏车还可以直接反杀你 02/25 04:33
14F:→ hitlerx : 苍钢跟舰娘合作过 所以苍钢x舰娘xWOWS搞3P应该可行? 02/25 04:45
15F:推 larailing : 我要能够泡水的眼车拉 02/25 06:02
地图上有地方给你游泳?XDD
16F:推 rommel1 : 老鼠跑的这麽慢 装了150炮後最好E-100会去玩沙~~~ 02/25 06:26
17F:推 rommel1 : 车体这麽重 装个170炮应该没问题 逃~~~~~~ 02/25 06:31
18F:推 rommel1 : 9.6没有重创自走炮的表现~~~~ 02/25 07:03
19F:推 abc12812 : 可是wows没有潜艇阿 没有401... 02/25 07:06
20F:推 rommel1 : WG要搞BMP.装步战车? 不如先把二战的半履带车做出来 02/25 07:06
21F:→ rommel1 : 有些还装有75mm战车炮~~~~ 02/25 07:07
搞出来要干嘛?WoT 的战场上有他们的地位?
22F:推 BDRG1B : 鸭子好车 02/25 07:31
23F:推 doomhammer : 鸭子AMX40 前进和後退的速度一样 How terrible 02/25 08:42
24F:→ doomhammer : 你有试过大鸭鸭B1吗? 02/25 08:42
25F:推 w1213000 : 小老鼠会在哪一条科技线上? 02/25 08:57
在老鼠前面
26F:推 fransice7 : WT的美国飞机实在是 ...... 明明是最强的 02/25 09:00
27F:→ fransice7 : 结果在游戏内 ...... 555+ 02/25 09:00
28F:→ fransice7 : 还有陆战平衡太糟糕了,往上遇到+1.0 +1.3的车 02/25 09:01
29F:→ fransice7 : 根本不用打 02/25 09:02
30F:嘘 losmith : 先怒嘘 让VN并进来 跟把亚服用的跟陆服一样乱有差吗 02/25 09:03
去逛逛陆服的礼品店,再看看陆服挂机/bot的状况吧;就我听说是会让人想砸键盘的
31F:推 infernoking : 不过昨天有好几场遇到超强的越南人,让我整个对他们 02/25 09:54
32F:→ infernoking : 开始改观,但是大部分他们还是.....KER KER 02/25 09:54
33F:→ losmith : 强的越南人不少 但是他们带来的挂机更多... 02/25 09:57
34F:推 LWK : 拜托提高炮车经验值好吗?有够难赚经验 02/25 10:56
35F:推 ray1035 : WOWS没SS与其说SS太IMBA 不如说工程太浩大嫌麻烦? 02/25 11:49
36F:推 hengyen : TD翻译那边我的理解是,TD是最受惠於隐蔽的车种 02/25 11:55
37F:→ hengyen : "benefits from it"的it我认为是指camo, 而非指nerf 02/25 11:56
38F:→ hengyen : 所以意思是TD本来就是龟车很吃隐蔽,所以要重新平衡 02/25 11:58
同意。感谢指正!
39F:→ LoveIvy : 可能以後吧 潜舰....他们以前也常说什麽什麽不做 02/25 12:03
40F:推 r790528 : SS的问题 SS玩家会很无聊 02/25 12:17
41F:推 r790528 : 潜水状态你只有不到10kts的速度 要干嘛? 02/25 12:18
42F:推 r790528 : 浮上来炮靶 潜下去驱逐炸你你还躲不掉(你太慢了) 02/25 12:19
43F:→ lsslss : SS在WOWS里头下场大概不是躲整场就是被抓出来轮奸 02/25 12:22
44F:推 l9901213 : 战舰世界跟苍蓝钢铁合作真的是有点怪怪的.... 02/25 12:29
45F:→ l9901213 : 主角是潜舰但游戏中没有潜舰,跟舰娘合作感觉就颇搭 02/25 12:30
46F:→ l9901213 : 只希望DMM可以把美军舰队(栖姬?)的舰娘做出来。 02/25 12:33
November☆ pixiv id=1979063 先用他的顶着吧 wwwww
47F:→ l9901213 : 话说怎麽一堆人在希望Buff Lowe? 02/25 12:35
48F:推 GilGalad : 合作没有说一定要在游戏里面出现啊... 最近这阵子WG 02/25 12:59
49F:→ GilGalad : 办活动常常就会送跟苍钢合作的T-shirt啊 02/25 12:59
50F:推 youthyeh : 准度更动有重创SPG的表现吗?你们就看下去吧ㄏㄏ 02/25 13:08
51F:推 YukiPhoenix : 史实SS都打伏击要出现在游戏很难 02/25 13:39
52F:推 colin1120 : SS太弱了而且绝对难以做到还原与游戏的平衡 02/25 13:50
53F:→ colin1120 : 二战舰艇型船体潜艇的水上速度大多在20节左右 水下 02/25 13:51
54F:→ colin1120 : 极速几乎没有超过10节的 舰体耐冲击能力也远不如DD 02/25 13:52
55F:→ colin1120 : 但是你不会想看到它们被还原史实的水下能力 为那代 02/25 13:53
56F:→ colin1120 : 表它们最起码可以潜个6~8小时以上 如果维持水下巡航 02/25 13:54
57F:→ colin1120 : 速度 它们甚至可以潜行20小时 这会造成它Unplayable 02/25 13:55
58F:→ colin1120 : 应该说让其他大船unplayable 02/25 13:57
59F:→ colin1120 : 这是一定要修改 但是不能把潜航时间改太短 那会造成 02/25 13:58
60F:→ colin1120 : 所有人都在附近绕来绕去等你起来一发给你死 02/25 13:58
61F:→ colin1120 : 如果用声纳搜索的方式 那代表你要在水下建立另外一 02/25 14:00
62F:→ colin1120 : 套侦查机制、为潜舰描绘海底地图造成地图大小加倍、 02/25 14:01
63F:→ colin1120 : 再多给一些船反潜武装 而这显然只会让玩家觉得很烦 02/25 14:01
64F:→ colin1120 : 并且多靠北伺服器几次 那行为就像WOT里面的地图资料 02/25 14:02
65F:→ colin1120 : 包含地底下的地洞一样糟糕 02/25 14:03
※ 编辑: WillieHuang (111.246.207.16), 02/25/2015 15:12:19
66F:推 a601401 : 会看到炮车走地下到对方基地偷偷从後面射烂TD吗!? 02/25 15:36
67F:推 colin1120 : 如果没有潜水战舰或潜水巡洋舰的话 02/25 16:12
68F:→ colin1120 : 大概也没有掘地自走炮...吧? 02/25 16:12
69F:→ youthyeh : 日本有潜水航母啊XD 舰载机只有三架晴岚 02/25 16:17
70F:推 a601401 : 可能挖一次要14分钟(? 02/25 16:23
71F:推 colin1120 : 潜特型分类上是潜水空母 但是本质上差太多了 02/25 16:23
72F:推 colin1120 : 3架晴岚差不多算是巡洋舰的载量而已 3架全部发进耗 02/25 16:27
73F:→ colin1120 : 时约15分钟 回收3架晴岚要30分钟 不过这也不是潜特 02/25 16:27
74F:→ colin1120 : 型的重点 潜特型最大的特色在「理论上可以对全球任 02/25 16:28
75F:→ colin1120 : 何地点进行攻击并且反航」 02/25 16:28
76F:→ nightwind209: T18杀手要退休噜 \0.0/ 02/25 16:35
77F:→ WillieHuang : 潜特型那种酬载量…要发挥明显效果,必须搭配 WMD 02/25 17:57
78F:→ WillieHuang : 如果是绀碧舰队中的黑科技那就定当别论 02/25 17:58
79F:→ WillieHuang : 战史版有专业吐槽 wwwww 02/25 18:02
80F:推 horsedie : 想想navy field的SS吧… 02/26 10:39







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