连结：http://ftr.wot-news.com/2014/02/22/bot-creator-talks-about-bots/ 内文长 由於特殊原因某些内文可能翻得不是很好 请见谅 (原因看内文就知道了) P.S.我觉得翻译可能有问题的会标上青色 Hello everyone, last night, I recieved an interesting e-mail about my older post about bots – from noone else than the CEO of the company, developing the Tankleader bot. The e-mail was signed with a full name, including e-mail and telephone number. No, I haven’t tried calling the gentleman, but it looks pretty legit. Either way, here is an excerpt of the letter, I think you will find it interesting like I did. The name was withheld for obvious reasons. I kept the original typos, the English is a bit flawed, but the man is from Germany. The “bold” marking is made by me. -SS 大家好，昨晚(当地时间应为21日晚上)我收到一封E-mail 这封信来自制作Tankleader(BOT程式名称，以下简称TL)团队的CEO E-mail里附有真实姓名、E-mail以及电话号码 我没有尝试去打给那位先生，但电话应该是真的 总之，我摘录了一部分内容，我认为你们也能跟我一样发现有趣的地方 名字被隐藏的原因应该不用解释理由了 我保留了原本的"错字"，英文(语法)有点错误 但这位先生来自德国，粗体字(内文以高亮黄色表示)是我弄得 by SS ------信件内文摘录分隔线------ Greetings Silentstalker, my name is -redacted- , and I am the CEO of the company behind Tankleader and some other automatization software for mmorpg/a. I did read your blog posts about Tankleader, and thought it would be nice, if I would reply you personally and give you some facts about the real usage of TL. SS你好: 我的名字是______，我是TL制作团队的CEO，也制作过一些其他MMORPG的BOT 我阅读过您部落格内关於TL的文章 我认为如果能给你一些私人的回应并且告诉你TL的真正用途是好事 First of all, the number of 100k sold licences, sounds impressive, and i would be very lucky if i had it, but its completely untrue. 首先，关於我们贩售了10万份的BOT程式，听起来很惊人 如果真的有达到这目标的话真的是非常幸运，但这完全不正确 As i write you, right now, there are 133 TL bots online. And we have not sold anything near 6 or 5 digits in licenses as far as i know, and i for sure know. So you might a bit overestimate the role of Tankleader in the WoT battles. However the fact that we try to add a nice AI into our product, is true, that is why we have the most advanced bot, that still is been developed on. 当我写给你这封mail的同时，有133个使用TL的BOT在线上 我很确定而且从来都不知道我们贩售的量有到达5甚至是6位数 所以你有可能有点高估了TL在WOT里的"角色"(译:我觉得是指影响力) 然而，我们尝试在我们的产品(TL)加入更强的AI是真的 那正是我们仍在开发中的先进BOT Some say, that while you need Premium or Gold on your WoT, that Wargaming might be behind it, no it is not true. We got contacted by Wargamings lawyers however, back in 2012. We told them that we can discuss that in front of a court if they like. We have not heard since from them. 有人说你需要用P帐或金币让WG(在你後面)当你靠山 这也是错的，我们在2012年有跟WG的律师接触过 我们这样回覆:"如果你们想的话我们可以在法院讨论这些内容" 然後我们就再也没有听到他们的声音 Might be also the fact that we are in court with Activision Blizzard in Germany, to finally have some laws about online games, EULA, ToS, rights of the users and whatever there are no laws for in the gaming industry. You might also read about european court rulings that happened lately, they do not seem to share the same opinion with the companies trying to form licenses that the users have no rights in. Anyway this would be another story to tell, once we get to the German Supreme Court (BGH) and see what they have to say about the issues that are been discussed. 实际上我们有和动视暴雪(Activision Blizzard)要在德国打官司 甚麽最终用户许可协议(EULA)、服务条款(ToS)等等还是啥的 那些东西没有太大的法律效力 你或许可以阅读一些欧洲法院近期的相关文件 法官似乎不认为(软体/游戏)公司可以用一些条款去限制用户(玩家) 搞得用户(玩家)一点权力都没有<注1> 总之那是另一段故事了 当我们到德国最高法院(打AB社的官司时)时我们会听听看他们有甚麽问题要讨论的 You wrote: “that running the most popular and probably the best bot (Tankleader) requires a premium account or gold?” Gold and or Premium is a decision we made from day one. We do not want to hurt the Developers. 你(文章)写到："使用最热门，而且可能是最好的BOT(TL)时需要P帐或金币?" 金币或P帐是我们第一天就做的决定 我们不想因此害到制作组 You wrote: “According to the Tankleader webpage, this bot has about 130k users.” According to the Tankleader page, our community -> thebuddyforum, has 130k registered users, for right now 7 bots that can be discussed about there. And Honorbuddy is the one with probably half of them. And from there on your logic just took the wrong path :/ 你(文章)写到："根据TL的网页，TL有将近13万的使用者" 我们的社群网页"thebuddyforum"注册用户有13万人 但是我们有7种(不同游戏的)BOT在这讨论 而且光是Honorbuddy(WoW的BOT)就非常有可能超过半数(13万) 所以你逻辑推错了 You wrote: “Why are bots a problem at all, since some seem to play better than your average Joe Tomato?” and then you explained why. However our head developer had over 3k games played, before he started working on Tankleader, and another 2k in process of the development, and i am talking about manual played games. With his expertise the bot has the following target: getting as much XP and Credits as fast as possible. We are not even sure that average Joe will help you in any situation, so there is no difference between him and the bot, except if the bot is in your range, then it will engage to get its kills up, and therefore more XP and Credits. 你(文章)写到："所以为什麽BOT会是个大问题?" 接着你这样回答:"因为某些BOT甚至打得比普通人还好" 我们的开发组的领导人在开发TK以前玩过3千场以上 另一个在开发过程中也玩了2千场 而且我讲的场数是自己玩，不是挂机 凭藉着他们对游戏的认知，BOT会有这个目标:尽快并且尽量赚取经验以及银币 我们不能确定普通人在甚麽情况下会帮你 所以BOT跟玩家其实没有差别 除非BOT跟你在不远的范围内与敌人交战 他会抢你的击杀，连带抢了你的经验和银币 You wrote: “Automated means could work better – for starters a bot memory scan like World of Warcraft has. It works fairly well, despite bots evolving all the time.” You might be misinformed on this one, WOW does not scan Memory, they would be stupid to do so and intrude any personal laws in the EU. WOW scans only the Memory it uses itself. But if you do not inject in a game, there is no injection to be found. 你(文章)写到："自动操作可以运作的更好，给刚开始接触BOT的人一个例子: WoW的一个记忆体扫描BOT，随时间不断进化并且运作非常良好" 你可能被误导了，WoW不会扫描记忆体 他们如果笨到这样做就会触犯欧盟任何有关隐私的法律 WoW只会扫描他所使用的记忆体 你没有进入游戏，就扫描不到记忆体里有关游戏的资料 SS: There you have it. Now, I don’t mind being wrong or corrected. After all, I am not a programmer. I think it’s actually some pretty interesting stuff. This man confirms the Wargaming version that the “bot plague” might have been a bit overblown, but that does not change the fact that there are currently quite a few bots active – enough to run into one at least two or three times, if you play an entire day (either that, or I was extremely unlucky). SS:正如你所见。 现在的我不介意我是对的或是错的，毕竟我不是一个程式设计师 我认为这其实有些有趣的点 这位先生证实了WG声称的BOT瘟疫(指BOT对游戏生态的破坏)太吹了 但这不会改变目前仍然有部分BOT正在运作的事实: 量多到如果你打一整天的话会遇到至少一个，甚至两三个 (还是说我真的是有够衰) <注1> 这一段主要内容大致上是出自我朋友 因此附上他对原文的理解与解释内容: 欧洲那边的法官应该是抱持花钱买断 如何使用是个人行为的态度 就像买刀子要做菜还是杀人是个人行为 卖刀的人无权去干涉 因此软体(游戏)公司没有权利要求用户(玩家)怎麽去"使用"软体 举个例子:我用正版win7来进行诈骗 我违法 但是微软没有权力因为这样就把我的正版win7给解除 所以EULA还是ToS之类的碗糕不太具有法律效力 -- 译:这些是在欧洲的情况 最好还是不要以身试法比较好) 然後关於青色字的部分 理由其实跟SS差不多 我不是coder 对WoW不熟 内文又是德国人写的 到底该怎麽翻才能正确还请高手出马了... --

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