作者wl00669773 (Jerry shou)
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标题Re: [讨论] 假如没有海军条约的话巡洋舰会怎样
时间Sat Jul 24 12:13:48 2021
ADM 239/261把前卫的职责写的清清楚楚
如果觉得可以放弃,直接决战,你可以不要派前卫没关系,反正你不是海军将领
1.前卫有跟敌人舰队做第一时间接触的职责
If, when the fleet is at sea in daylight, enemy forces are in the vicinity,
they should be reported by reconnaissance forces, and contact should occur
between the advanced forces of the two fleets.
前述Reconnaissance包含航空侦查
因为航空侦查不够可靠(起码二战前都是)
所以前卫接触後以前卫的情报为主
The primary duty of reconnaissance aircraft is to locate and report both the
enemy battlefleet and aircraft carriers, subsequently keeping them under
observation while endeavouring to remain unseen. When visual contact has been
made between the advanced forces of the two fleets, air reconnaissance will
no longer be needed and these aircraft will take over action observation
duties.
确切一点说 是侦查(Reconnaissance)跟locate的区别
2.引导舰队的部署方向
It is very desirable that the probable direction of deployment is signalled
early, in order that the cruisers can destroyers can gain an advantageous
position in the van. Until this is signalled, the advanced forces will
endeavour to maintain a position near the line joining the two battlefleets.
As the movements of the enemy flotillas may be an indication of direction of
deployment, it is of the utmost importance that these should be reported to
the Admiral.
3.阻止对手进入雷击位
The advanced forces will endeavour to prevent enemy flotillas and cruisers
from reaching a position favourable for torpedo attack on the British
battlefleet. The secondary armaments of the battleships will also be used to
counter torpedo attacks, more especially when attacks are developing on the
beam of the battlefleet. In the even of a heavy attack developing, it may
also be necessary for the capital ships to use their main armaments to
disperse enemy flotillas and cruisers.
Screen?我何时谈论过Screen的职能? 屏卫就是屏卫
ADM里也写到了
无论是高速战列或战巡都能执行支援巡洋舰的职责
Either battlecruisers or fast battleships may be detailed to support the
cruisers ahead of the fleet. For convenience these vessels are referred to as
battlecruisers and the instructions which follow apply to either type of
ship, when carrying out this duty.
还有,对於战场情势,战巡传达的报告是最优先级,相较於前卫队中其他巡洋和驱逐
Although many reports from other ships of the advanced forces may be
expected, signals from the Senior Officer of the battlecruisers during his
approach and action giving the general situation will be of particular value
to the Admiral.
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1F:推 fw190a: 你猜缺乏BC的国家会想照着这边写的方式派前卫吗? 小船派 07/24 12:30
2F:→ fw190a: 出去是前卫,拱卫时作为屏障,只是前者在理想情况效益更大 07/24 12:30
3F:→ fw190a: 而已,不代表後者没战力。我知道你没提screen,但你已经 07/24 12:30
4F:→ fw190a: 把他写成战力0了 07/24 12:30
真是不好意思 战间期没有BC的国家 如美国选择派重巡出去当前卫
没有战巡怎麽办? 重巡顶着用阿!
反航战战术只能弥补战列线上被抢T头的航速劣势,不能弥补没高速主力舰使得驱逐巡洋孤立无援的窘迫局面
能怎麽办,列克星顿就死了阿! 啊我就只有彭萨柯拉可以用!死马当活马医!
另外如果进入决战阶段,除了战列线外的队伍叫Van跟Rear
而战巡高战及重巡(美国这种国家的话)就会於队伍前方的支持位於Van的巡洋及驱逐作战
To engage leading enemy capital ships and to support light forces in the van.
https://imgur.com/OXekYOw
支持Van位置上的巡洋跟驱逐干嘛?
(d) Cruisers in the van: To command the areas ahead of and between the two
fleets and so support the attack of the flotillas, and to attack the enemy
battlefleet with torpedoes. More cruisers are required in the van than in the
rear.
(e) Tribal class destroyers in the van: To give close support to the
destroyer flotillas and to counter-attack, subsequently to make use of their
torpedo armament.
(f) Destroyers in the van: To attack the enemy with torpedoes as soon as the
two fleets become fully engaged and to counter-attack.
时间点再往前拉吧
日德兰之後舍尔怎麽看英方战巡舰队?
https://bit.ly/3x2iL9t
舍尔认为:
英军的战术意图,显然是要截断德军的退路,诱使德军与其优势主力部队接战,然後战胜
之。
英国前卫舰队的航速和兵力优势,使其优於德国的第一侦察集群,又能逃避德国主力舰队
的打击。
基於这些优势,英军倾向於在远离本队的方向开战,一方面迫使德国战巡队只得跟随行动
,另一方面实现强行侦察,给本队报信。
如果前卫队单独开战,英国战巡队对於德国人有兵力优势,而德国主力舰队太慢无法加入
战斗,对德军是不利的。
而如果让德国战巡和本队抱团,而不利用其航速前出,则可能遭到英国高速单位的侧击(
包抄战列线一端),同时本队也被迫改变航向
如果是这样,德军本队的行动就完全被英国高速舰队限制住了。英国人可以在有利的位置
和时机,集结优势兵力发动攻击,并完全包围德军前卫。
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