作者chenglap (无想流流星拳)
看板Warfare
标题Re: 斯威尼1995年於美国国会发表对於原爆的证词
时间Wed Feb 23 15:12:28 2011
※ 引述《qlz (())》之铭言:
: Did the atomic missions end the war? Yes...they...did.
: Were they necessary? Well that's where the rub comes.
: 原子弹是否结束战争?是的。它们必须使用吗?有争议。
「投掷原子弹结束了那战争吗? 唔... 是的.
那是必要的吗? 争议所在. 」
因为这段的意思是说「美国向日本投掷原子弹的任务」
而不是说原子武器存在的本身.
否则依中译, 即使是美国用原子弹威胁日本投降地「使用原子弹」而不
投掷, 也是说得通的.
: The current debate about why President Truman ordered these missions, in some
: cases, has devolved to a numbers game. The Smithsonian in its proposed
: exhibit of the Enola Gay revealed the creeping revisionism which seems the
: rage in certain historical circles.
: 这次争论为什麽杜鲁门总统下令使用原子弹时,在某些情况下,已经变成一个数字游戏。
: 史密斯学会预备提供的「艾诺拉.盖伊」【注1】展览,显示似乎会在特定的历史圈造成
: 毛骨悚然的颠覆。
revisionism 我认为应译为「历史修正主义」, 或者洗白.
: It is certainly fair to conclude that the Japanese could have been reasonably
: expected to be even more fanatical than the Germans base on the history of
: the war in the Pacific.
: 一个相当公正的结论是,根据太平洋战争的情况,可以合理地预期日本将是比德国更疯狂
: 的敌人。
「我想, 以日本在太平洋战争的表现, 合理判断日本对战争比德国更狂热, 这
可说是持平的. 」
: Can you imagine the callousness of this line of argument? ONLY 46,000- as if
: this were some insignificant number of American lives.
: Perhaps these so-called historians want to sell books.
: Perhaps they really believe it. Or perhaps it reflects some self-loathing
: occasioned by the fact that we won the war.
: Whatever the reason, the argument is flawed. It dissects and recalculates
: events ideologically, grasping at selective straws.
: Let me admit right here, today, that I don't know how many more Americans
: would have died in an invasion - AND NEITHER DOES ANYONE ELSE!
: 你能够想像这种论点有多麽冷酷吗?仅仅46000条性命——好像这些是无关紧要美国人的
: 生命。也许那些所谓的「历史学家」只想卖书。或者,这反映某些自我嫌恶的论点,因为
: 我们赢得战争(此句不解)。无论理由为何,这种论点是错误的。它从根本上就和事实不符
: ……(这句看不懂)
「你可以想像这种论点何其冷酷? 仅仅四万六千条生命----好像
这个数字对美国人来说微不足道一样. 」
insignificant number 我想指的是数字而不是价值.
自我嫌恶那段我会这样译,
「或许因为我们赢得战争, 所以感到心虚. 」
「不论原因, 这种论点是有问题的. 那是基於意识形态去切割问题, 断章
取义, 抓住鸡毛当利箭. 」
Grasping - 抓住
selective - 选择性
Straws - 稻草
: But even assuming that those who now KNOW our casualties would have been ONLY
: 46,000 I ask -
: Which 46,000 were to die?
: Whose father?
: Whose brother?
: Whose husband?
: And, yes, I am focusing on American lives.
: 但对那些假设我们损失仅仅46000人的人,我要问:是哪46000人?谁的父亲?谁的兄弟?
: 谁的丈夫?是的,我只注意到美国人的生命。
顺着这句的文理语气, 我会这样译.
「就当他们神通广大真的算到会死四万六千人好了吧? 死哪四万六千人? 谁
的老豆? 谁的兄弟? 谁的丈夫?
对! 我强调的是这些是我们的同胞! 」
: ‧for the Korean comfort women.
: ‧for the Medical experimentation on POW's which match the horror of those
: conducted by the Nazi's.
: ‧for the plane to use biological weapons against the United States by
: infecting civilian populations on the West Coast.
: ‧for the methodical slaughter of civilians.
: ‧and for much more.
这里应该跟随原文用回点列式.
另外, 我觉得这遍文章是有一段投入感情的演说多过平性的论理. 所以
翻译时有些部份可能需要口语化一点.
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※ 编辑: chenglap 来自: 118.142.17.238 (02/23 15:16)
1F:推 qlz:也许是受到前两篇看过翻译文的影响。因为那两篇翻译多少都加入 02/23 16:48
2F:→ qlz:翻译者个人的情绪,所以就下意识选择比较中性的翻法。 02/23 16:50
3F:→ chenglap:其实我想, 该是加入发言者的情绪而不是翻译者的情绪. 02/23 16:50