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标题Fw: [外电] Who will the Bulls sign?
时间Wed Dec 7 15:59:37 2011
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标题: [外电] Who will the Bulls sign?
时间: Wed Dec 7 15:46:02 2011
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Who will the Bulls sign? I eliminate the options survivor style
The Chicago Bulls have a huge list of FA targets. They've been linked to
virtually every player between 6'3 and 6'8 whether they're restricted or
unrestricted this off-season. Given the mammoth list of names going for them,
what should we hope and expect to happen?
First, I refer you to the all-in plan. I'm almost certain no variant of this
plan will happen soon.
When Jerry Reinsdorf came out with his statement about the luxury tax, I've
come to the following conclusions:
1: The Bulls won't spend far into the tax.
2: They will only spend into the tax for a colossal upgrade and even an Andre
Iguodala probably won't qualify.
I could be wrong on those points, and of course, I hope that I am. However, the
vibe I'm getting is that the Bulls will need to be as cost conscious as ever.
As such, I think their decisions won't be as straight forward as grabbing the
best player.
Jamal Crawford, Grant Hill, Josh Howard, Caron Butler, Jason Richardson, Vince
Carter, Shane Battier, Tracy McGrady, Nick Young (RFA), and Aaron Afflalo (RFA)
are some of the names linked to the Bulls.
Afflalo/Young are long shots because of their restricted status, so I'd throw
them out now as I doubt we'll give up assets to get one.
Of the unrestricted guys, I'm also going to throw out Josh Howard. He has a
visit planned with the Bulls this week, so it's odd to throw him out, but he's
not been a great character guy, he's never had good range, he's had significant
injuries for three straight years, and he's been lousy for the past two seasons.
I just don't see how you look at Howard and pick him out of the available
options.
I will also throw out Grant Hill unless he comes as a back up SF at the vet
minimum. He's simply not a SG, and while he's a guy who can score with
efficiency when given space he's not really a shot creator at this stage of his
career and doesn't have three point range. If he is going to sign at the vet
minimum as a backup SF why does he sign with us instead of Miami? He probably
doesn't.
I will then throw out Shane Battier who's only been tenuously linked to the
Bulls. Perhaps by someone thinking "that makes sense" more so than by a true
source. Not a high volume enough scorer, not a legit two. He's more like the
Keith Bogans of SFs. Doesn't create his own shot, but just shoots open corner
threes on kick outs.
We can also say goodbye to Tracy McGrady. The Bulls had their shot at him last
year, and they said 'no' at the vet minimum due to concerns about how he'd
accept his role. He then participated in a player coup started up over
mistreatment of veterans and their minutes in Detroit.
If he'd played like a supreme bad ass in Detroit last season, maybe the Bulls
would over look that, but he averaged 12 points per 36 minutes which is nothing
special, still can't shoot threes, and creates low efficiency offense. He does
add a lot of play making, and the Bulls could use that, but too many negatives
and not enough positives.
That leaves Jamal Crawford, Caron Butler, Jason Richardson, and Vince Carter.
I would throw out Caron Butler except for the fact that there's been so much
media attention towards him that it's hard to imagine all this smoke lacks at
least some fire going with it. However, Butler's not a shooting guard. I know
people will say he played some shooting guard in Dalls, but he did so poorly
and in limited time.
He's also a guy, like Josh Howard, that you have to go back to 2008/9 to find
his last productive season and who has battled significant injuries for a
couple of years. There will be plenty of "if healthy" qualifiers thrown around
him, but I just don't see where this one makes all that much sense given the
past two seasons Butler has put out there.
working out in Chicago, a visit was easily arranged and more discussions took
place and media sources have reported that, but it doesn't represent the true
interest of management. I could be wrong.
Jamal Crawford is the next guy I'll boot off the island. Jamal Crawford, in
theory, is exactly what the Bulls need, but Jamal Crawford in practice falls a
bit short.
He can create his own shot. He has size. He can play the one and the two. He
can shoot threes. If the story stopped there, it'd sound incredibly tempting.
Unfortunately, he can't defend any perimeter position well, and while he
creates his own offense, he shoots a low percentage and fails to get to the
free throw line. He basically creates mediocre offense in large volumes. Don't
get me wrong, the Bulls could really us that. They presently create bad offense
in large volumes when Rose isn't doing the creating, so an upgrade to mediocre
is an upgrade.
However, I think if the Bulls merely unleashed CJ Watson and told him to create
instead of waiting around for Korver to come off of double screens that they'd
already have their Jamal Crawford, plus I like CJ as a defender more.
We're now down to the final two. Jason Richardson and Vince Carter.
Sorry Jason Richardson, you did not win the Bulls MLE.
This is a more straight forward decision than it appears. Richardson and Carter
played on the same team in the same system. On that team, Carter scored in
higher volume, with higher efficiency, and was responsible for creating his own
shot while Richardson was not.
Now throw into the mix that Carter likely costs you the vet minimum while
Richardson likely costs you near the full MLE, and how tough is this choice?
The only thing working against Carter is age. Has he lost the final step that
takes makes him have a dramatic fall off this season?
I like Jason Richardson. I think he'd be a good value at the MLE for four
seasons. However, I don't think the Bulls really want to commit four years to a
fairly pedestrian player. The luxury tax is going to be a big issue going
forward despite what Jerry Reinsdorf said about paying it for a guy who puts
them over the top.
Jason Richardson is not that guy. If you sign him, you likely lose Taj or Omer
down the line [which will be difficult to keep them anyway], and I think the
Bulls would rather allocate that money towards those players.
As such, Vince Carter may not be the absolute best talent available for the
Bulls, but you can make a case that he's the best, and he's almost certainly
the cheapest if he'll sign for the vet minimum. If Carter is looking for a full
MLE, and he might be, then I would likely change my stance on the topic.
However, Carter's banked more than enough money to not worry about the extra
few million, especially given the massive endorsement money he had earlier in
his career. We'll see how it plays out, but Vince Carter presently makes the
most sense of all available options to me combining talent, salary flexibility,
and web rumors.
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1F:推 taiwanmonkey:总算有推崇一下我们卡老大 12/07 16:42
※ 编辑: i329 来自: 59.126.160.42 (12/07 16:51)
2F:推 serveservant:卡老大的确是适合现在公牛的系统 12/08 02:57
3F:推 aq1:不过到现在都还没传出VC跟公牛洽谈的消息 而公牛已经和克劳佛 12/08 11:26
4F:→ aq1:巴特勒等人开始谈了 12/08 11:28
5F:→ aq1:网路上所谓的专家们都蛮看好VC去公牛的 不过看了一下网路上公 12/08 11:29
6F:推 aq1:牛迷宁可要克劳佛,巴特勒,绿茶婶 太一厢情愿也蛮没意思的 12/08 11:32
7F:→ clkdtm32:那也只是网路迷的意见 出钱不是他们 哈哈 12/08 11:33
8F:→ aq1:其实VC去蛮多队都蛮有希望拿冠军的 也不一定要公牛 12/08 11:33
9F:推 aq1:不过等到12/9开市 情况应该很快就明朗了 太杨没意外应该很快就 12/08 11:39
10F:→ aq1:会买断VC 剩下的就看VC自己评估的实力有多少 他要的是甚麽约 12/08 11:40
11F:→ aq1:我去年後来就很少看了 但看了VC的官方剪辑觉得他还是有签中产 12/08 11:42
12F:→ aq1:的价值 但考虑到年纪 不一定每一队都会开给他中产 12/08 11:44
13F:推 aq1:极有可能最後是签部分中产或双年百万条款 12/08 11:47
14F:→ aq1:c大说的也对 签约的不是球迷 球迷通常只看自己比赛或看新闻人 12/08 11:48
15F:→ aq1:云亦云 球队管理阶层有专门情蒐 还是要看VC在他们眼中的价值 12/08 11:50
16F:→ clkdtm32:跟RJ一起到小牛 三剑客又回来了!!! 12/08 12:43
17F:推 chaoliang:DH到湖人 VC去湖人 12/08 15:09
18F:推 harry200233:十大SG自由球员VC是没算在内还要是没选上...? 12/08 16:46
19F:推 Howard2002:他还不是自由球员吧 12/08 17:11