※ [本文转录自 NBA 看板 #1Dd9XnOW ] 作者: cat0806 (Cater) 看板: NBA 标题: [外絮] Vince Carter，下一站名人堂？ 时间: Thu Apr 7 00:44:31 2011 Next great HOF debate: Vince Carter? 前言：Vince Carter will likely end his career with a scoring total that's greater than many current Hall of Famers, but that probably won't be enough for a Hall of Fame nod. 前言：当Vince Carter职业生涯结束的时候，他的得分将会比大部分的名人堂成员还高， 但这可能还无法打动名人堂的评委们。 Now that the Hall of Fame has corrected its most grievous sin of omission and elected the great Artis Gilmore, we’ll have a short break before the next intense debate over the qualifications of a true superstar-level player — or at least a guy perceived as a true superstar-level player. That debate will come in earnest when Vince Carter becomes eligible, though it has already been going on for a while. 名人堂已经改正了他们最严重的错误，就是把伟大的Artis Gilmore给选了进来。 接下来，让我们喝口茶休息片刻，继续争论下个明星级球员，或者，曾经是明星级。 这场争论，将从"半人半神"Vince Carter进入候选名单开始拉开序幕。 尽管早就已经开始了......。 Even figuring conservatively, Carter is going to finish with a career point total in at least the 22,000 range, and when you get up that high, you’re dealing with nothing but Hall of Famers and future shoo-ins. He’ll probably settle in somewhere between Larry Bird (No. 32) and Elgin Baylor (No. 27) on the all-time scoring list, ahead of Hall of Famers Hal Greer, Bob Pettit, Walt Bellamy, Scottie Pippen, Earl Monroe, David Robinson, Magic Johnson, Dennis Johnson, John Stockton, Chris Mullin, Dave Bing, Lenny Wilkens, Kevin McHale, Dennis Rodman and others. 保守估计，Carter退役时生涯得分至少有22000分，当一个球员取得如此成绩， 什麽奖项都不再是问题，除了名人堂之外。 Carter最终生涯总得分很可能介於Larry Bird (第32) & Elgin Baylor (第27)之间。 但这样就已经超越了名人堂成员Hal Greer、Bob Pettit、Walt Bellamy、 Scottie Pippen、Earl Monroe、David Robinson、Magic Johnson、Dennis Johnson、 John Stockton、Chris Mullin、Dave Bing、Lenny Wilkens、Kevin McHale、 Dennis Rodman等人。 Carter figures to end up right there on the scoring list with Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, two contemporaries almost certain to get in. If Carter doesn’t make it, he’ll hold the title for at least a long while of Highest ABA/NBA Scorer Not in the Hall of Fame. Carter自己则认为当他退役时，总得分将与Ray Allen & Paul Pierce这两位同时代， 且几乎笃定进名人堂的球星并列。如果Carter最终无缘进入名人堂，那他将会是 非名人堂成员里生涯总得分最高的，这纪录也许将会被保持相当长的时间......。 The election of Chris Mullin in the Class of 2011 holds promise for Carter’s candidacy. Of the previously mentioned Hall of Famers who have fewer career points than Carter, almost all of them were very good at something other than scoring. Included are some of the best point guards of all-time, a bunch of ace rebounders and a few defensive studs. Carter, like Mullin, is mostly a scorer who provides passing as a secondary skill. He puts up decent assist numbers for a shooting guard, but his passing mostly involves kicking the ball out when defenses loaded up on him to contain his scoring. That’s an important skill for a scorer, but it’s not as if Carter has ever pulled off passing with a high degree of difficultly or facilitating like Jason Kidd. 2011年Chris Mullin进入最後阶段的投票倒数时，这也给Carter带来了希望。 先前提到很多名人堂成员生涯得分比Carter少，但是他们都在其他方面有着出色表现。 其中有史上最好的PG，很多篮板狂人，还有一些专职防守的王牌杀手。 而Carter就像C.Mullin一样，是个得分好而传球只是辅助技能。像他这样的SG没有场均 送出10多个助攻的能力，可是他在受到包夹的时候都能将球很好地转移出去。那对於 一个得分手是很重要的，但毕竟，他的传球不像Jason Kidd那样具有高难度和渗透力。 But don’t overlook how incredible Carter was as a scorer. Go through his stats on 82games.com, and you’ll see his teams consistently score nearly 10 more points per 100 possessions with him on the floor. This happened every season, even on the post-Tracy McGrady Raptors, and even when Richard Jefferson missed significant time for the Nets in 2006-07. Sure, the crummy benches in Jersey and Toronto provided a bit of a boost to those on-court/off-court numbers, but those are huge numbers, and few players produce them year after year, regardless of context. In his prime, Carter helped his team’s offense a ton. Rodman just got in based on monster career achievements found mostly at the defensive end; isn’t Carter the opposite sort of candidate? What’s the difference between Carter and Mullin? 可我们仍然不能低估Carter难以置信的得分能力。在《82games.com》上，你会看到他的 数据，他在场上时球队每100个回合可以多得将近10分。每个赛季都是如此，包括与 Tracy McGrady一起在暴龙的时候。 而06-07篮网时期，Richard Jefferson缺席了大半赛季。可以肯定的是，篮网和暴龙不争 气的板凳席只能为球队做出有限的贡献，所以Carter的能力更显得弥足珍贵。很少有球员 可以做到像Carter那样，年复一年，不论任何环境都能在进攻端发挥极大作用。 在Carter的巅峰时期，他对於球队的进攻有着巨大的帮助。如果Dennis Rodman是防守端 的怪物，难道Carter就不能因为在进攻端的表现成为候选人吗？看看Carter与Mullin， 何其相似阿！ (It is here that I should note that the Hall of Fame is, of course, not an NBA-only Hall of Fame and can thus take into account a candidate’s play in college and elsewhere. That obviously helps Mullin quite a bit, given his outstanding record at St. John’s and his place on the original Dream Team.) (编按：这里我要特别说明，名人堂评选并不仅限於NBA成绩，大学时期或其他地方的 成就都会被列入考虑。圣约翰大学的成名及梦幻一队成就让Mullin获益良多。) Mullin was perhaps a more clever and natural passer, but his and Carter’s assist numbers are similar (about four per 36 minute), and Carter assists on a higher percentage of his team’s baskets. Neither is much of a rebounder or defender. They are in the Hall of Fame conversation, basically, because they score at an elite level. Neither has much of a playoff resume. Carter had never been to a conference final before last season, when he played some of the worst ball of his career against the Celtics and bricked two crucial free throws in Orlando’s series-turning home loss in Game 2. Mullin made back-to-back conference finals with the Pacers in the late 1990s, though he played a much smaller role in the second of those series – in 1999, against the Knicks. Mullin可能是一个更传统且聪明的传球好手，但他和Carter的助攻数非常接近 （每36分钟，约4个助攻），Carter的助攻很大部分都来自队友投篮。他们都不擅长篮板 和防守。如果他们进入名人堂，毫无疑问是因为他们巨星级的得分能力。且他们都没有 太多季後赛的荣誉。 Carter在上个赛季前从没有打过东西部的决赛，而且在对塞尔提克系列赛中表现不佳， 在系列赛第二场错失两个关键罚球，导致了球队的失败。90年代末期Mullin在溜马连续 两年打进东部决赛，但在第二年（1999对尼克）他的角色已不像第一年那麽重要。 Both have baggage, though Carter’s might be the sort that is fatal to a Hall of Fame candidacy. Mullin struggled with alcoholism, but he was a gym rat who worked tirelessly at his game, played hard for his team and used basketball as an escape from everything else. Carter indisputably quit on the Raptors in 2004-05 after becoming fed up with the front office, only to suddenly play like his old self upon a mid-season trade to New Jersey. It is almost inconceivable that this Toronto roster could ever score nearly 10 fewer points per 100 possessions with Carter on the court before the Raptors surrendered and dealt him to the Nets. But that actually happened, and Carter ’s blatant tank job will rightfully taint his legacy. 两人同样都曾被交易过，但是Carter的交易可能就是他能否成为名人堂候选人的决定性 关键，Mullin酗酒，但他却是个在比赛中不知疲倦为何物的球员，他努力为球队做出贡献 ，把篮球当做逃离一切的方法。而Carter在对管理层不满後，消极打球的态度直到赛季中 被交易至篮网，2004-05年毫不犹豫的离开了多伦多。 在高层“屈服”前，不可思议的 是像Carter这样的球员在场时，球队每100个回合得分下降近10分。 但这确实发生了， Carter这样公然的消极态度将成为他职业生涯的污点。 So will the perception that he has failed, repeatedly, in the clutch. That perception doesn’t quite stand up when you broaden the definition of clutch (as the site 82games.com has) to include the last five minutes of games in which the scoring margin was within five points. Carter fares quite well by this measure, but I’d wager most fans would consider postseason performance to be more important than what a player does in the last five minutes of a game in March. 另一种说法是，Carter总是在比赛关键时刻消失在场上。当你将关键时刻定义为比赛最後 5分钟，而场上分差在5分以内时，这种观点就站不住脚了。Carter的数据可以很好的证明 。但我打赌大多数的球迷觉得季後赛的表现更为重要。 And it is there that Carter falls short. He was decent for the Raptors in the 2000-01 playoffs, though one miss at the end of Game 7 against the Sixers has overshadowed everything else he did during that brief run. And he was fantastic for the Nets in 2005-06. Beyond that? Carter has shot 41.5 percent overall in the playoffs and 31.5 percent from deep, down from 44.5/37.4 in the regular season. His performance against Boston in the biggest series of his life: 13.7 points on 36.7 percent shooting from the field and those two ultra-costly free-throw misses. 而这也正是Carter的缺点。2000-01赛季将暴龙龙队带进季後赛，在半决赛与七六人决胜 的第7场错失绝杀，掩盖了他对球队的贡献。之後05-06年Carter在篮网拥有了一个梦幻的 赛季，除此之外呢？Carter在所有的季後赛里FG为41.5%，三分命中率31.5%，而例行赛有 44.5%的命中率，三分命中率为37.4%。在与波士顿的关键系列赛中，场均13.7分，36.7% 命中率，还错失2个关键的罚球。 Carter has a couple of intangibles going his way: He’s perhaps the best dunker ever (and that matters in a pop culture sense), and he made the Raptors successful when it was unclear whether they would sustain in Toronto. Those things wouldn’t matter to me if I were voting, but this Hall of Fame’ s selection process has been hard to figure for years. 对於进入名人堂，Carter还有两个容易被忽略的有利条件。也许他拥有最华丽的扣篮 （对流行文化来说），还有在暴龙犹豫是否继续留在多伦多之时，他带领暴龙取得了 成功。虽然说如果我是评审委员，这些事情对投票来说不会有影响，但是对於这些年的 名人堂选择还是很难说的。 My guess is that Carter – barring a late-career resurgence – is in serious danger of being left out of Springfield. And that strikes me now as a fair resolution. 我猜想，除非Carter在生涯後期打出自己代表作，不然将很可能成为名人堂遗珠之憾。 在我看来这个打击却是公平的一个诠释。 http://is.gd/c1CPEZ -- ＶＣ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --

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