作者airnark (小花生小小花生小小小花)
站内VinceCarter
标题Re: Everyone hates Vince Carter
时间Thu Apr 10 05:30:47 2008
I am not the biggest Vince Carter fan in the world, bit I just don’t get
when so-called NBA experts consistently hammer Vince as if he is the worst
player on the planet. For example, here is a recent quote from Bill Simmons
aka ESPN’s Sports Guy:
I don’t blame Kidd for throwing a hissy fit — I would have done the same if
I had to play with Vince Carter.”
我不是疯狂的卡特球迷,我只是认为一些所谓的nba专家们,好像都认为
卡特是一个最烂的球星,举例说最近有一个叫比尔的说:
我不会责怪kidd,假如我也跟卡特打球,我也会干同样的事!!!
Of course, there were 5 more derogatory jabs at Vince in this article so that
Simmons could meet his anti-Vince quota. And he is not the only one.
Virtually everyone is convinced that Vince Carter is a terrible basketball
player, worthless human being and overall piece of garbage. Sure he’s done a
few bonehead things (most notably, pouting for the first 20 games in Toronto
during the 04-05 season) and he hasn’t won that many playoff games.
Although, he has won 3 more playoff series than Yao Ming, Tracy McGrady and
Carmelo Anthony combined.
这边大概说 卡特很烂 没赢过多少季後赛 说卡特只赢过三次季後系列赛
但比姚天子 踢妹 跟甜瓜加起来还多 = = (这算是在损踢妹他们吧 囧)
But did this guy steal change from handicapped children or something that I
missed? There are a number of players who are terrible guys in the NBA and
there are a lot of players making WAY too much money given their performance.
Guys who are way worse than Vince and guys who are way more overpaid. Why
Vince gets treated so poorly by virtually the entire media just baffles me. I
think its just lazy journalists taking the easy road. Its easy to just blame
Vince because everyone will accept it.
这边是说 有一些人 表现明明比卡特差 或者拿的钱根本是overpaid 但是为什麽他们
都没有卡特那麽容易被骂呢 ??
应该是那些记者太懒惰 因为只要骂卡特 基本上大家都会接受 > <"
Well, lets take an unbiased look at the effect Vince has had on each team he
has played on since 2002-2003. The stat I want to use is adjusted +/-.
According to www.82games.com: “Adjusted +/- ratings indicate how many
additional points are contributed to a team’s scoring margin by a given
player in comparison to the league-average player over the span of a typical
game (100 offensive and defensive possessions).” Basically, it is a
statistic used to measure each players effect on his team’s performance when
he is in the game. For example… If a player had an adjusted +/- of +2.0
while he was on court and -2.0 off court that would give him a net adjusted
+/- of +4.0. Obviously, the higher your net adjusted +/-, the more important
you are to your team’s success. Lets look how Carter stacks up…
科科 那我们就来用个测量方式吧 Adjusted +/- ratings
这个可以测量球员在球场上的表现 然後批哩啪啦解释了 这公式是啥咪
( ′-`)y-~
2002-2003 - On Court: -0.4, Off Court: - 9.0, Net: +8.6 (1st on team)
Vince missed a lot of time this year, but was still easily the Raptors most
effective player at +8.6. The Raptors were about average when he was on the
court (-0.4) and completely terrible when he was not (-9.0). Closest player
on team to Carter was Antonio Davis at +6.6.
在2003~2003球季 这一年一开始 卡特错失了一些比赛
但他仍是暴龙队中效率最好低
卡特在球场上时 +/-是-0.4 不在时是-9.0 整个正分是8.6
全队只有Davis 比较接近他 \(^▽^)/
2003-2004 - On Court: -0.1, Off Court: - 9.6, Net: +9.4 (1st on team)
Basically the same story as last except Carter didn’t miss any time. His
+9.4 was more than double any other Raptor… and Toronto fans wonder why
Vince wanted to leave?
接下来只讲2003~2004啦 正分更恐怖了 是+9.4 全队第一
他比任何暴龙球员的绩效X2 还厉害 科科
多伦多球迷真的知道卡特为何要离开吗?
2004-2005 - On Court: +3.3, Off Court: - 7.6, Net: +10.9 (3rd on team)
Clearly Carter was having a great positive effect on his new team (now the
Nets). He was behind Kidd (who was 2nd in the NBA to Tim Duncan) and 0.2
behind Jason Collins. Richard Jefferson… how about -4.3? Of course, in 20
games with the Raptors Carter was horrible at -8.3. You could easily make a
case that Carter mailed it in (he basically admitted to)… and I’m sure
thats why Raptors fans hate him!
2004~2005年 卡特成绩在全队排第三
但排第一的kidd 全联盟也只输小叮当而已
而卡特在暴龙队的20场比赛 他的绩效是-8.3
所以我确定暴龙粉丝们是恨他的
2005-2006 - On Court: +5.4, Off Court: - 10.1, Net: +15.5 (1st on team)
Only Dwyane Wade at +15.8 had a better net rating than Carter.
2005~2006年是15.5 只有wade比卡特高啊 而卡特也是全队第一
2006-2007 - On Court: +0.8, Off Court: - 6.6, Net: +7.4 (2nd on team)
Kidd had a slightly higher net (+8.3) but Carter is clearly still a very
effective player. A lot more effective than say Richard Jefferson at +2.1.
Have you ever heard anyone say anything bad about Jefferson? Me neither. But
Carter is a much more effective player.
2006~2007 卡特成绩是全队第二 仅次於接生小孩 而且绩效还是十分的好
高於jefferson 的2.1 但是有人听说jeff被嫌不好吗?
(差不多是在讲这样啦 就是说卡特明明绩效很好 却一直被嫌弃)
2007-2008 - On Court: -2.2, Off Court: - 11.7, Net: +9.5 (1st on team)
Once again, Carter is the statistically the most effective player on his
team. Kidd is +5.6 and Jefferson is -0.2. But Vince Carter is the problem?
2007~2008 卡特又是第一了 比接生小孩的5.6和Jefferson的-0.2强多了
所以卡特是问题吗? 囧兴
So to recap, over the past 6 years, Vince has had at least a +7.4 net
adjusted +/-, leading his team during 4 seasons with a high of +15.5, when he
was second in the league. So why wouldn’t players want to play with him?
Clearly teams are much better when Vince is on the court. Could anyone even
argue against that? The goal of each basketball game is to outscore your
opponents and when Vince is on the court, he has given his team a MUCH better
chance to win. The only downpoint is the 20 game stretch of horrible
basketball to start the 04-05 season.
一句话 嘿嘿 卡特在过去六年平均有+7.4 有四季全队第一 最高还有15.5
事实上 卡特在场上时 球队成绩是比较好的啦 当他在场上
球队赢球的机会就会比较大啊
只有在暴龙那20场除外 XD
囧 想睡觉了
先来去睡啦
还没翻完的就靠其他没睡的强者啊
( ′-`)y-~
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1F:推 sam105251:感谢翻译 04/10 05:41
2F:推 ayuan: 感谢翻译 04/10 08:55
3F:推 BadJack:感谢翻译 04/10 09:40
4F:推 Reyyy:没专心看过VC近年来比赛的人 不会知道VC的价值的 04/10 15:19
5F:推 OGoTTe:推 04/10 21:40
6F:推 OGoTTe:很多人都对VC有偏见 根本不会去注意他 只凭印象乱开炮 04/10 21:58
7F:推 badprince:推 感谢翻译 我觉得VC的表现够好了 真的要说再加强什麽 04/10 22:51
8F:→ badprince:那就是保持健康 以及领导能力 和 宰制比赛的能力 04/10 22:54
9F:→ badprince:SG要宰制比赛 那就是靠得分 大量又爆炸性 的强迫取分 04/10 22:55
10F:→ badprince:篮网现在只要落第四节後10分以上大多追不回来 战术是没 04/10 22:57
11F:→ badprince:啥好期待的咯只能看VC了 要用什麽手段? VC自己来想吧 04/10 22:59
12F:→ badprince:我们欣赏就好 :) 什麽时候VC也拿个得分王 别人也比较不 04/10 23:00
13F:→ badprince:会质疑她了 冲高分高命中来证明 应该比拿冠军证明简单 04/10 23:02
14F:推 ReBegin:大概是球队的成绩 让VC的能力也被怀疑了 04/11 12:30
15F:推 saten:只看数据是看不出敌队是用两人防守卡特的 = = 04/11 19:45
16F:推 baof:原po 我好像认识唷 XD 感谢翻译啦 04/14 22:23
17F:→ airnark:包尔夫 忘记我了 囧 04/16 00:42