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标题[新闻] [美国JRs之声]米切尔最近输出爆炸!
时间Sun Dec 10 12:48:07 2017
[美国JRs之声]米切尔最近输出爆炸!美球迷:他是会三分的韦德or强壮的利拉德?
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Donovan Mitchell is averaging 28.6pts on 53/45/92 split over the last 5 games
多诺万-米切尔在过去五场比赛(不算今天的比赛)中以53/45/92的命中率场均砍下28.6
分大杀四方。
Dude is balling out and he's not even 30 games into his NBA career yet.
What do you think his ceiling is?
这哥们甚至还没有打满30场常规赛就已经开始大杀四方了。
你们觉得他的上限会有多高?
[–][DEN] Chauncey Billupslurching23 751 指标 11小时前
Yeah.... well..... did you guys see Tyler Lyndon ball out in the G league?!
Trey Lyles has been pretty good!! Fucking kill me
掘金球迷:Emm…你们看到泰勒.-莱登在发展联盟打的有多好了吗?!特雷-赖尔斯也打得
不错!!我编不下去了快杀了我吧。[译注1]
[译注1]:在2017年选秀大会上,掘金将13号签(後选中多诺万-米切尔)交易至爵士换来
24号签(後选中泰勒-莱登)和特雷-赖尔斯。
[–]Nuggetsduckduckmeow 289 指标 11小时前
Every Mitchell and OG highlight make me so upset, wtf were we thinking
掘金球迷:每一个米切尔和阿努诺比的集锦都会戳痛我的心,我们的管理层到底他妈在想
什麽?[译注2]
译注2:OG-阿努诺比在2017年选秀大会上以23顺位被猛龙摘走,而掘金向下交易的签则正
好是24顺位。
[–]turdferguson94 254 指标 9小时前
That you had Gary Harris Will Barton Jamal Murray and Mudiay and wanted
frontcourt depth? Just a hunch.
你们有加里-哈里斯,威尔-巴顿,贾玛律-穆雷和穆迪埃还想再增加前场深度?场上会变
得水泄不通的。
[–][UTA] Rudy Gobertdautjazz 29 指标 6小时前
Lyles was garbage for Utah last year, though he's been decent for Denver so
far. Still, Donovan is playing on a whole other level already, I imagine he'd
be Denver's best guard if given the opportunity (or if it's the right system
for him). Donovan is a great scorer and passer, so he can play SG or PG.
Regardless, I am glad Denver keeps sending us their goodies.
爵士球迷:赖尔斯去年在爵士打的就是一坨屎,不过他目前为止在掘金打的还算可以。可
米切尔已经在打处於另外一个水准的篮球了,我觉得如果给他机会(或者说有适合他的体
系),他本有可能成为掘金最好的後卫。米切尔是一个精英级别的得分手和传球手,所以
他就是个双能卫。不管怎样,我还是感谢掘金一如既往地救我们与水火之中。
[–][ATL] Dennis SchroderPacificBrim 29 指标 9小时前
I heard the that the Nugs were trading down thinking they'd be able to get OG
with that pick. Obviously it was a dumb risk, just go get your guys
我听说掘金向下交易签位元是觉得他们能在那个顺位劫走阿努诺比。很显然那是个很蠢的
冒险计画,乖乖选走你想要的人不就行了吗?
[–]Bucksrice_and_lentils 31 指标 8小时前
That's a weak principle. If the other teams don't evaluate OG to be good
enough to take at 13, then in many circumstances it makes sense to trade down
and extract value from that trade while getting your guy anyway. Hindsight is
20/20. Sometimes good risks don't pay off. I'm not sure this one was good,
but we're being very reactionary here.
这都是马後炮。如果其他队没有觉得阿努诺比值得13顺位元,那在这种情况下向下交易签
位元并同时摘走你想要的人就很合理啊。总是有人事後诸葛亮。有时候风险是值得冒的,
但它并不是总会带来收益。我不确定这是不是一次好的冒险,但我们也有点反应过度了。
[–]RocketsCeero_Bro 416 指标 11小时前
hes a swole Dame. He can fly, and he can launch from deep and still has saucy
handles. Very fun to watch.
Last night CP3 said "they got a gem in him" after Rox vs Jazz game referring
to Don.
他就像是强壮版的利拉德。他有着惊人的运动能力,他能轻轻一跃完成暴扣同时还有着很
棒的运球能力。看他打比赛很有趣。
火箭打完爵士的比赛後,保罗还说“爵士得到米切尔是捡到宝了。”
[–]SpursBarncore 204 指标 9小时前
Swole Dame but with defense
不光是强壮版的利拉德,还是会防守的利拉德哦。
[–]JazzFcivish4 122 指标 9小时前
Keep going....
爵士球迷:继续吹不要停。
[–]Trail Blazersyargdpirate 166 指标 9小时前
Shaq with a three-point jimbo
像有着三分球的沙克。
[–]JazzCICERO9K 33 指标 6小时前
Keep going I'm almost there
爵士球迷:啊啊啊请继续,快来了...
[–][BOS] Paul Piercejallain 56 指标 6小时前
Spiderman but with Iron Man's sex appeal
有着钢铁侠吃妞魅力的蜘蛛侠。
[–]SpursBarncore 166 指标 9小时前
Gilbert Arenas with sanity
没失心疯的阿里纳斯。
[–]Celticsargle__bargle 65 指标 8小时前
So not Gilbert Arenas
所以...也就不是阿里纳斯咯?
[–]WarriorsthissistheN 125 指标 8小时前
brandon roy with knees
那就有着健全膝盖的罗伊吧。
[–][PHI] Kyle Korvermysticfishes 173 指标 11小时前
I don't think he has a ceiling
我认为他没有上限(天花板)这一说。
[–]Rocketssbleezy 57 指标 10小时前
It's through the roof
穿过天花板就是了。
[–]LakersUCRRed 101 指标 10小时前
The ceiling is the roof
天花板就是上限,上限就是天花板!
[–][UTA] Donovan Mitchellbigwinniestyle 47 指标 9小时前
So many upvotes, I think my thumb is going to fall off... I did it for you
Donovan...
爵士球迷:吹米切尔吹的我好爽,点亮都点不过来了,手指头快累掉了。
[–][BOS] Jayson Tatummorewinsmorelife 149 指标 11小时前
Reminds me of a Dwade type of player with a better 3pt shot
他让我想起了韦德那种类型的球员,但他有着更好的三分
[–][ATL] Dennis SchroderPacificBrim 132 指标 9小时前
so is Donovan Mitchell the new 3rd best SG of all time or is he even higher?
所以米切尔已经是历史第三得分後卫了?三分更好所以他可能比历史第三得分後卫还要牛
逼?
[–]JazzMicroAggressiveMe 33 指标 7小时前
D-Wade, Lilliard, Westbrook, and Harden got into a Prius and had a soup
kitchen. Out came Mitchell.
韦德、利拉德,威少和哈登的*河蟹*混血儿——多诺万-米切尔!
[–]Westyesungxiao 18 指标 8小时前*
Exactly what Givony said today in Woj's podcast, a D-Wade with better
shooting. And still great intangibles, athleticism, his mind and hard worker
(to grow from a baseball player into a top basketball prospect in a couple
years)...
Geez, i'll tell my grandsons that i was alive in the 17 and 18 draft class
era.
就像Givony在今天沃神的播客上说的那样,他是投射更好的韦德。还有这数不清的潜力,
惊人的运动能力,清晰的头脑和勤奋刻苦的态度(这会让他在两三年内成长为一名顶尖的
篮球运动员)。
天啊,我以後要是有孩子了,我会告诉他们我亲眼见证了17和18级新秀的横空出世!
[–]Lakersthechort7 31 指标 7小时前
Can you imagine the hype he'd be getting if he played in a bigger market?
你能想像下他在更大的市场下打球会是怎样一番情景吗?
[–]JazzDeathBySuplex 14 指标 7小时前
Honestly? I think if he was in a bigger market, and Simmons wins the ROY (not
that he’s undeserving) over him they change the ROY award to a draft class
one... hell, they still might with this monster draft class but Simmons as a
holdover.
让我讲实话?我觉得如果他在更大的球市下打球,然後西蒙斯拿下年度最佳新秀(我没有
说他不配这个奖),联盟会把年度最佳新秀规则改成只让当年新秀参与评选,这样米切尔
就会拿奖而西蒙斯就只能饮恨而退了。日,可能今年的新秀都这麽天赋爆表,联盟还真有
可能这麽干,颁两个最佳新秀,给西蒙斯一个迟到的奖项。
[–]NBAtank4picks 71 指标 11小时前
Is he already the best rookie in the 2017 draft class or is it still Tatum?
他和塔图姆哪个是2017年最好的新秀?
[–][UTA] Greg Ostertagsoapy_goatherd 174 指标 11小时前
Biased, but I think Mitchell's clearly passed Tatum (and I like Tatum a lot)
很难说,但我觉得米切尔很明显超过了塔图姆(虽然我很喜欢塔图姆)。
[–][CLE] Kevin LoveSartuk 37 指标 7小时前
Really hard to say. Mitchell is carrying such an extreme load for a rookie
guard and is doing a tremendously great job as of late, but his shooting
struggles in the beginning of the season were significant (37.1% from the
field through 19 games with a 46.8% TS%). He's been obscenely good since then
(26.1 a game with a 66.7% TS%) and if he even comes close to keeping up
anywhere near that (say 22 a game with a 58% TS%) I'd give him the nod.
真的很难说。米切尔作为一名新秀後卫正扛着队伍往前走而他的表现可以说是十分亮眼了
,但他开赛期间的投篮命中率实在有点辣眼睛(37.1%的命中率和46.8%的真实命中率)。
但从他找到手感之後就变好了很多(66.7%的真实命中率场均砍下26.1分),如果他能保
持这样的手感到赛季结束(比如说58%的真实命中率场均砍下22分),那我绝对会说他是
17年最好的新秀。
But right now, Tatum is 14/5.5 with a 64.8% TS% over the entire year in
almost the opposite scenario: his role offensively is less than it could be
on a different team. Far less. It's almost criminal that he only has a 17.7%
usage rate. He's in a great position to succeed efficiency wise, but he's
being put in a very poor position to rack up scoring quantity numbers.
Mitchell is the exact opposite: he's getting every chance to shine with the
points, but his efficiency is suffering (although not in his last 5 games,
obviously!).
但现在来说,不管对手是谁,塔图姆正以64.8的真实命中率稳如狗地场均砍下14分并能摘
下5.5个篮板:塔图姆现在扮演的进攻角色相比如果他在其他球队会低很多。他的使用率
才刚到17.7%啊!他现在正处於一只能高效赢球的球队中,但对他个人而言,他正处於对
自己出手数量的不利条件中。而米切尔则正好相反,他得到了每一个展示自己的机会,但
他的效率却大打折扣(但显然不是他的上五场比赛!)。
So long story short, right now I'd still give the nod to Tatum since
Mitchell's first 4/5 of this season weren't great. I'm very much open to
adjusting that though, and again I want to note comparing these guys is so,
so, so tough due to the different roles they have on their respective teams.
所以长话短说,目前为止我会投塔图姆一票因为米切尔目前80%的比赛都打的不是这麽好
。但我对我的观点持开放态度,再次申明基於他们俩在不同球队担任的不同角色,我想继
续对比他们之後的表现。
[–]turdferguson94 71 指标 9小时前
He's the best player on his team already. Tatum is still the 3rd/4th.
Mitchell has been the Jazz go to guy. Against the Thunder the other night, he
was guarding Paul George, being guarded by George/Roberson on offense, on a
back to back, and still dropped 31. Tatum isn't doing that yet.
米切尔已经是队伍中最好的球员了。而塔图姆还仍然是第三或者第四好的球员。米切尔已
经成为爵士的基石球员了。在对阵雷霆的那晚,他负责防守保罗-乔治而负责防守他的是
乔治和罗伯森的连环组合,就这样他还拿下了31分。塔图姆现在还耍不来这个。
[–]Knicksnyalriv580 54 指标 10小时前*
If there's anyone the Knicks "should have drafted," it's Donovan Mitchell.
Home grown New York kid that is intelligent, modest, high character and ready
now. He's 3 years older than Ntilikina so hopefully in time we see some real
growth from him, but damn would Mitchell be looking real nice in orange and
blue.
尼克斯球迷:如果有一个人是属於尼克斯“应该选他”系列的,那就是多诺万-米切尔。
土生土长的纽约小夥,聪慧,谦逊,有天赋并且时刻准备着上场打球。他比尼利基纳大三
岁所以但愿我们能看见他有所成长,但TMD米切尔如果穿尼克斯队服肯定帅爆了。
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