作者Leaflock (我爱黎明)
看板Timberwolves
标题[情报] Simmons新消息、Vanderbilt续约进度
时间Wed Sep 8 17:15:33 2021
Jon Krawczynski Podcast的重点整理:
Ben Simmons
1、Simmons has made it clear that he doesn't want to report to training camp. He has made this clear to the 76ers a long time ago but their reluctance to get a deal done has made him go public with that knowledge.
Simmons表态不会去训练营报到。
2、There is frustration in Simmons's camp regarding the lack of progress with his trade demands and they are trying to make it clear to the 76ers that he doesn't even want to entertain the possibility of starting the season with the 76ers like Butler or Harden did.
Simmons不愿意再为费城打任何一场比赛。
3、Jon believes he will still be on the roster when training camp begins but that he will be traded before the season starts. He believes the Timberwolves are the most likely team for him to get traded too but maybe Toronto as well. It depends on the asking price but he likes the Wolves odds of landing Simmons. But the Timberwolves are very happy that he has begun to apply pressure on the 76ers FO to get him traded.
Jon认为Simmons在开季前会被交易,你狼和暴龙是最有可能得到他的两支球队。
4、He believes that the Timberwolves are the team that wants Ben Simmons the most in the NBA but also that the market for Simmons is very dry and that there isn't a bidding war for Simmons that Morey hoped there would be.
同时你狼也是全联盟最渴望Simmons的队伍,Morey期待的竞价并没有发生。
5、The 76ers would accept Anthony Edwards or KAT straight up for Simmons but those 2 are very much untouchable and the KAT-Embiid relationship is also one factor for that not happening.
如果出Towns或Edwards,费城愿意单换。但你狼不愿意。
6、The main packages that exist are a D'lo package that the 76ers are lukewarm on or a Jaden McDaniels,Malik Beasley + filler + picks although Gersson Rosas is reluctant to move D'lo. He believes the 2nd offer is a lot more enticing because those picks could be used later down the line to trade for Dame or Beal, since GM's saw this year how valuable unprotected Minnesota picks are.
Rosas提供了两套蛋疼的交易方案:
1、Russel
2、Jaden McDaniels + Malik Beasley + filler(Prince跑不掉) + picks
Rosas不愿意交易Russel,费城想将这笔交易的资产当作交易大牌後卫的资本。
7、He doesn't believe Dame will get traded unless the Blazers start the season horribly and he asks out like Harden did last year. But that won't be happen until some time after the season starts (if that scenario happens).
除非拓荒者开赛成绩崩盘,否则Lilard不会要求交易。
8、Ultimately a trade depends on how much Embiid pushes for Simmons to be finally traded or how much Simmons shakes the boat.
交易最终取决於Embiid的态度及Simmons多想跳船。
Jarred Vanderbilt
Jon:Also he said the only offer for Vando is an offer from us and that the org is trying to lock him in a cheap deal.
Vanderbilt只收到了你狼的报价,Rosas试图用奴隶合约签下他。
其他
NEWS: The @Timberwolves today named Jeff Newton as Head Coach of the @iawolves, the team's G League affiliate.
Jeff Newton成为Iawolves教头。
目前灰狼的球员大部分都在迈阿密参加Dlo和Towns举行的训练营,Jon说这次的规模比以往大得多。
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在目前Simmons市场反应冷淡的前提下,Rosas真的有种出清三个优质射手(MB、Jaden、Prince)去换,
只能认为有暗盘或什麽了,并不是说这些资产多值钱,而是换完後灰狼的球场空间(大大萎缩)和锋线厚度(顶多持平)都受到影响,
尤其Simmons并不是一个随插即用的锋线全明星(如果是换25岁的PG、Kawhi之类的,资产随便加)的情况下,这麽做真的太过危险了,极不看好。
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1F:→ a62312000: 看到以上的方案,还是别想西门了,乖乖续约Vanderbilt 09/08 17:29
2F:→ a62312000: 就好 09/08 17:29
3F:推 HCLG: 市场这麽冷 西门这麽硬 那方案二Jaden不出的好... 09/08 17:46
4F:→ HCLG: 至於方案一 虽挖东墙补西墙 但我认为整体还是升级的 可考虑 09/08 17:47
5F:推 yzuboy: 留着自己用,反正被乱的不是我们^^ 09/08 17:48
6F:→ HCLG: 只是现在考量的点除了交易付出成本 西门本身态度也很重要 09/08 17:49
7F:→ HCLG: 真的来了又不爽更麻烦 而起他背後还有个富堡罗@@ 09/08 17:49
8F:→ HCLG: 我们的选秀权价值还是很高的^^" 首轮+MB换个全明星ok吧XD 09/08 17:51
9F:推 smoms: 真的 考量Simmons还有心态跟心理层面的问题,我觉得底线就M 09/08 18:10
10F:→ smoms: B+Price或PB+签就可以了,再多感觉都不合算 09/08 18:10
11F:推 smoms: 简单续下彪哥,第二阵容PB MB Prince Naz还是很可以的 09/08 18:14
12F:推 yzuboy: 我的想法跟Smoms大大一样^^拆了东墙补西墙,等等换我们被 09/08 18:15
13F:→ yzuboy: 笑不出手 09/08 18:15
14F:推 smoms: 前面打错是Prince不是Price ^^|| 09/08 18:16
15F:→ a62312000: 我蛮认同最後一句"西门并不是一个随插即用的球员“ 09/08 18:20
16F:→ Leaflock: Simmons真的换来势必要经过训练营初步配合过 很难说这类 09/08 18:24
17F:→ Leaflock: 球员能不能成为季中战绩大补丸 09/08 18:24
18F:推 jjoonnyy: 多jaden就不想换了 09/08 19:37
19F:→ Leaflock: 多出Jaden 3、4号就剩Simmons+Vanderbilt是正规锋线了 09/08 19:55
20F:→ Leaflock: 还没一个能投 09/08 19:55
21F:→ Leaflock: Jaden选秀夜前才刚被问价21年乐透签 然後现在就随便加了 09/08 19:56
23F:推 pttshian: 为何一直执着西门…没他也不会怎样吧。 09/08 20:18
24F:→ Leaflock: 没他现在市场上也没有锋线能补了 Rosas就是Plan A走到底 09/08 20:21
25F:→ Leaflock: 锋线漏风也不在乎的类型 能不出Jaden换到Simmons还是很 09/08 20:21
26F:→ Leaflock: 大的补强的 09/08 20:21
27F:推 monkey0135: 还是希望别出到Jaden啊 09/08 21:15
28F:→ zsp9081a: 不管哪个方案感觉都不是很诱人 09/08 22:50
29F:推 wakayama: 1和2的方案都不好吧 2也出太多人 09/08 23:11
30F:→ a62312000: 蛮惊讶的是这次的集训比上次巴哈马的人数还多 09/09 10:50
31F:→ xo45527788: 看吧 看这几天如果有补人进来 应该就放弃西门了 09/09 12:34
32F:推 vince4687: 不知道还剩下谁 09/09 12:37
33F:→ Leaflock: 剩下一堆很老的老将和联盟边缘人 09/09 13:12
34F:推 sato111: Edwards在2K的能力似乎是82的样子 09/09 13:21
35F:→ xo45527788: 目前名单12人如果补Vanderbilt跟Blomaro就成行了 09/09 14:01
36F:→ xo45527788: *型 09/09 14:01
37F:推 chih2loveu: 但这样标准四号就只有飙哥就是了...没办法@@ 09/09 18:44
38F:→ Leaflock: 标准四号还有一个Knight 希望能有一点战力 09/10 09:28
39F:推 wakayama: Ok4又被裁了 09/10 09:51
40F:推 vince4687: Knight是四号身材 09/10 10:12
41F:推 rd1424: OK4队型有合吗? 09/10 10:54
42F:推 HCLG: OK4会一直被丢 应该主要是凑满15前三顺位的功能XD 09/10 11:37
43F:推 zsp9081a: ok4的防守emmmm,派拉拉队上去说不定都更有存在感 09/10 11:38
44F:→ Leaflock: 真签了OK4就是三号中锋的功能 反正现在只有两个中锋 09/10 12:32
45F:推 vince4687: 完全不用OK4……进攻没办法拉开空间 没护框又只能打5 09/10 12:41
46F:→ vince4687: 随便签个夏联仔都比较好 09/10 12:41
47F:推 vince4687: 我是建议灰狼出MB+Prince做薪资配平 然後狼跟七六人一 09/10 13:09
48F:→ vince4687: 起出签 出到巫师愿意Beal 就成了 09/10 13:09
49F:→ vince4687: 不然七六人这场闹剧不知道要拖到哪时候 09/10 13:09
50F:→ Leaflock: Beal在巫师送走龟龟後对现状很满意 巫师也没要卖掉的意 09/10 13:58
51F:→ Leaflock: 思 09/10 13:58
52F:推 alankira: 灰狼完全有本钱等,还不急着重返季後赛 09/10 14:26
53F:推 yzuboy: 真的,我们可以慢慢等,他们现在就之前的吉巴再现^^只差没 09/10 15:27
54F:→ yzuboy: 有弄臭队友 09/10 15:27
55F:推 jay228: 慢慢等的缺点就是队上气氛会很差 好几个人一直会有被交易 09/10 15:30
56F:→ jay228: 的传闻 09/10 15:30
57F:推 wydada1207: 我们也没本钱等吧...... 在两年不进季後赛就要拆夥了 09/10 15:45
58F:推 cidcheng: 等也可以,冲也可以,就怕管理层要冲不冲的 09/10 15:46
59F:→ cidcheng: 如果都补不到点然後才说我们也可以等 XD 09/10 15:47
60F:→ cidcheng: 这样跟股票套牢才说我本来就看长期投资感觉差不多 09/10 15:47
61F:→ cidcheng: 制服组大方向总要先抓好 09/10 15:47
62F:→ Leaflock: 没Plan B 制服组就是一心冲西门 然後Morey现在拿着灰狼 09/10 15:50
63F:→ Leaflock: 的出价当保底这样 09/10 15:50
64F:推 HCLG: 冲冠军可以等 季後赛不行吧 顶薪都开跑了 09/10 17:24
65F:→ HCLG: 如果只剩我们给报价 那不如撤回看76人反应 没有就快找plan B 09/10 17:26
66F:→ HCLG: 不然MB PB甚至Jaden DLO 要怎麽专心打 09/10 17:26
67F:推 smoms: 对啊 甚至搞到这几位有小情緖就尴尬了 09/10 19:32
69F:→ yzuboy: 这个合约我喜欢耶 不贵 赞赞赞 09/11 07:14
70F:推 gary84097: Vanderbilt是13.8M/3y McLaughlin是6.48M/3y 都不贵 09/11 07:39
71F:→ gary84097: 另外V的第三年部份保障 M的第三年球队选项 09/11 07:39
72F:→ Leaflock: 总算谈完了 09/11 08:03
73F:推 vince4687: 开季吧 09/11 08:07
74F:→ Leaflock: 就等Bolmaro和Simmons了 09/11 08:07
75F:→ Ivan1807: 不得不说Rosas谈约真的厉害 09/11 08:08
76F:→ Leaflock: 主要是这两个拖到没什麽队伍有空位 才用良心价留下 09/11 08:09
77F:推 jay228: 就这样开季也还能接受了 09/11 08:13